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  1. 100 % in agreement. This person (if I said woman instead I’d be accused of misogyny) should never be no 2.

  2. Labour did the tactically correct thing in the situation with the new PM, and policy change is still possible right up to October with NZ Labour’s absolute MMP majority. As much as it is better imo to involve the wider membership and affiliates, a leadership contest would have been export eye fillet for the pundits to slaver over.

    If there is a Labour led Govt. Greens and TPM will be in a strong position to push a bottom line including say a wealth tax of some description.

    But, Ms Sepuloni is bad news. A good enough campaigner against Paula Bennett in West Auckland, but totally gutless in Govt. The WEAG left to languish, The “E” stands for experts with people like Robert Reid and others with years of experience–all ignored by Carmel in favour of arrogant MSD tops and departmental neo lib officials.

  3. 100% Agree. If the Labour Party is not on a self-destruct mission, then this shocking appointment would not even be considered. It is Carmel who should be abolished, not the Commissioner for Children, followed by the speech censors at Victoria University’s Excellent Extremist Centre, and the SIS advised to desist from trying to getting people spying on the neighbours, but Carmel first. Just because Carmel fits diversity requirements doesn’t mean that she’s any good at anything.

    1. She wasn’t even that spectacular at Munster for Kulcha and Heritage even though she apparently likes poetry.

      Chippie, if you must give her deputy dog status – give her some clear guidelines! along with a cattle prod if necessary to get something meaningful done

      1. OnceWasTim. Likes poetry my foot. Her’s is the Ministry which tried to cancel Shakespeare and sees culture with a backward ethnocentric focus hellbent on not just trivialising, but destroying the incredible rich diversity of our European culture. They don’t even have the reference points or knowledge or empathy or intellect to appreciate or to “ like poetry.” I blame Kelvin Doggerel Davis for this.

        That Chippie chappie has failed to read the room on this, but no surprise there, he’s just another neo-lib politician. But I am angry, and upset to see a hard heartless female in this job. Peters was once a Labour D-P, and the contrast between the two of them is surreal. This is another kick in the guts from the sociopathic Labour caucus, and Kiwis will suffer because it.

        1. “OnceWasTim. Likes poetry my foot.”
          Indeed. I said “apparently”
          If she really did, she’d probably have been a better Kulcha Munster.

          I’m always wary of uber ambitious, uber competitive human beings.
          In my life’s experience, their ego gets the better of their compassion and humility.
          Good she’s ‘smashed the glass ceiling’, really bad she’ll still be an awful specimen as far as child abuse and various other things UNLESS she’s given a few guidelines.
          She’s got until October 14

        2. OMG. Carmel bad choice 100% absolutely agree. Tried to cancel Shakespeare… really? Stop funding an event and that’s “cancellation”

          1. Wheel It was more than just an event. It was very much an empowering hands- on developmental experience for adolescents. The trashing of Shakespeare by Arts Council hangers-on as an imperialist, and a destructive influence on the early colonisation of New Zealand, verged on insane.

            Interestingly, a French text I’m ploughing through at the moment, identifies literature as the key to French culture, and expounds on why. So even if Shakespeare was the perfidious creep which these ill- educated women asserted, that’s no reason to try and ban him, or any other writer, poet, or dramatist, who sheds some sort of light on why we are the way we are just as much as the myths and legends of Maoridom do.

            With the National library burning books and refusing to keep books published outside of New Zealand in future, we’re regressing culturally, and this can lead to ridiculous outcomes, and losses of literary treasures.

            Aberdeen University has now issued a trigger warning advising students not to read Barrie’s “Peter Pan”, saying that is emotionally challenging, and advising students to seek help if they’re unable to cope with the themes in the book. “ The Railway Children” and “ The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe” are also on their list of non-advisable reading. This is what happens when the animals are running the farm Do you want to see it happening here ? I don’t.

  4. Despite not really being a Labourite I always thought Kiri Allan looked like a good prospect for the future and usually seemed to come across well in public with her roles so far. I’m not trying to feed any rumour mill but what on earth are the nature’s of these so called wild moments in her life that precluded her advancement?
    It is 2023 after all.

    1. Yeah, that confused me too. Kiri Allan is already the Justice Minister, so it can be assumed that she’s never been convicted of a criminal offence. What on earth could she have done that’s going to shock people in this day and age?

    2. My take is – she is not ready yet. Doesnt have enough Mana with the Maori Caucus yet (She is up against Mahuta or Jackson perhaps) and is a bit green to risk it. This kind of thing happens sometimes when a great up and coming candidate decides they will fare better by keeping their powder dry.

      i think Sepuloni is a placeholder (has a good multicultural backstory to sell) and we wont see what deals have been done with the Maori Caucus until after the next election if Labour make it back.

  5. I’ve always thought she had a mean streak, as well as the old culture of giving the kids a bit of a biff to show them to respect their elders and show ’em some discipline. That coupled with her ‘education’ background probably drove her decision to make that plainly stupid,fucked up decision with the Children’s Commissioner.
    If Chippy is smart, he’ll review that decision as part of the ‘reset’. It’ll be a game changer for many including me. That along with some sensible Immigration Policy, and real public service reform – not window dressing.
    Unless that happens, the abuse will continue, immigrants will continue to be exploited, as will residents and citizens, and thousands/hundreds of thousands of dollars will be pissed down the drain with often facile, template-driven reports in the name of so-called independent ‘advice’.

    Labour’s traditional base is really sick of overpaid consultants, ticket clippers and PMC greasers.

    Otherwise for me, it’ll either be Party Vote woke Green or Maori Party

    1. OnceWasTim Agree about re-establishing the Commissioner for Children, but it could be a mammoth task with Carmel by his side. Also disband the ridiculous speech prefects at VUW; that was Ardern virtue signalling to the UNO as part of her advocacy for global censorship of free speech, and not needed in spite of Kiri Allan’s shooting her mouth off prematurely about hate speech laws.

      Half the consultants are for devious public servants to avoid taking responsibility for anything themselves, that now being globally exemplified by the Prince of woke, Dirty Harry. Had Ardern agreed to some sort of review of Mallard and co’s antics in the Parliamentary precinct, it could have been a significant step forward in teaching and learning that actions have consequences, but they all scurried for cover like cockroaches. Remember, even saintly Bill English trashing all young guys as useless druggies, said that was what employers up and down the country told him, and he lied in the face of MSD stats which showed otherwise.

      I still wouldn’t vote Labour again, and certainly not Act, Nats or crazy racist Greens.

  6. Can’t disagree with this post. What are they thinking?

    I think there is a UN case against the emergency housing people not being able to take businesses to the tenancy tribunal. Who signed off that business owners of motels and social housing providers are above the current laws on tenancy?

  7. She’s from Auckland, she is brown and she is a woman.

    This had nothing to do with her achievements or capabilities. It was all about what she looks like.

    Typical Labour.

      1. Yes racist Luxon, where is Shane Reti the most qualified and outstanding National MP?
        Yet they reward Michael( that homeless man) Woodhouse.

        Typical National

        1. Bert Michael Woodhouse, the good Catholic boy from Dunedin, is being lined up for National’s Minister of Culture and Misogyny. It was he who had a woman politician’s face emblazoned on a lavatory seat for a titillating National Party raffle. He could replace the incredible shrinking Bennett as their fund raiser too, he’s vulgar enough, crude as they come.

  8. Both appointments are terrible. I can’t imagine any of the left-wing rank-and-file (the few who haven’t yet cancelled their Labour memberships) are at all happy with the new PM/DPM.

    The question is: Why are the (corporate) political donors supporting these two? The members didn’t get a vote, so this wasn’t their choice.

  9. With the latest unemployment stats out Carmel is obviously another star performer:
    353,904 people of working age on a benefit. This is 22% higher than in Dec 2017
    Those on a benefit for more than 12 months up 26% to 257,865
    Maori on welfare up 26%
    Pacific Peoples on welfare up 35%
    Numbers on job seeker who are work ready up 51%!
    Numbers on job seeker for more than 12 months up 49%
    Maori on job seeker up 41%
    Pacific Peoples on job seeker up 67%

    And yet so many businesses cannot employ people.

    1. Gosh I hope those statistic are not correct but not a good look if they are!

      Is helping Maori and Pacific People and the unemployed really putting them on a benefit in a crisis of workers?

      BTW many people on the benefits have jobs, just like many of those on DPB have partners – not sure if the ‘relaxation’ is going to be helpful long term because more people on benefits, more people growing up with parents on benefits, more people with a lot of time on their hands while waiting for benefits and less people who seem to be expected to work with a tax paying job.

      The amount of abled bodied, well spoken youth who are appearing in the media complaining about the cost of living, while saying they are unable to work (reason never specified) seems now at an all time high.

  10. Yes Carmel is a diversity and inclusion appointment. Yah, box ticked!

    I cannot think of one single thing she has done that is any good

  11. Got to look at the individual being paid well for her misdeeds – that is deeds that miss the target of providing real social welfare – and judge her a failure. So Labour has so wandered off the path of being for the people, it no longer cares for anything but the right facades to fool the people all the time. And those who aren’t fooled are just shouting into the wind.

    The post is truthful all you wilful non-believers and unconcerned grifters, ie avoiding progressive taxes and regarding avoiding tax as a refined game like chess. Swelling chests, you say we live in a great democracy, not like the people under Putin. If God cared to look down he would think that his designated son Jesus said to care for children, and help others as much as poss. And said some things about rich men that was negative. Bring rich gives you choices you thinjk, but it is hard to make the one to divest yourself of some through assisting the state to have fair taxes, and funding training for those needing a hand up wespecially for the teenagers who are dropping out of school. Now that is ‘Social Investment’, so give them training that will help them all their lives in a healthy way; eg not just to become the go-to team that dismantles asbestos from housing or deals with lead paint on old houses.

    There is sometimes dark thought behind apparent noble gestures. In our present political and social climate one needs to have a trace of cynicism.

  12. Dream a dream and never loose heart comrades, if an angry, severe-looking dole bludger like Sepoluni can make a fortune in a bureaucratic fantasy world then so can you.

  13. The cleverest thing Carmel ever did in politics was to be born and raised for a time in Waitara. As a newly elected list MP she was the stand-in Labour person in New Plymouth for the very busy Andrew Little. She’s ridden with the right team ever since.

  14. Marty, you must be biased. Its not about policy now its electioneering time. Sepuloni has been selected to deal with the weak tory MPs. You watch her run rings around the useless tory team like Upston, Willis and Luxon. This is the weakest tory party I have seen in 60 years. The Tories dont care about the homeless, unemployed, Maori, Indians, PI’s, and others and will help the rich, the Trump supporters, ground swell. Like key, luxon will borrow $2bn and raise GST, give tax cuts to rich, invite property speculators and Aussie banks and make them richer. With Jacinda gone the labour team can throw away te kindness and rip into the Tories – dithering goldsmith, story telling willis and Luxon, and other ignorant MPs. No wonder they wanted Mallard gone – Im sure Rurawhe must be a tory well he acts like one.
    Thank you Jacinda for your world class leadership – we will never see anyone like you again. Other world leaders have acknowledged it.

      1. Bert why are you focusing on National members when your party has just had a dramatic change .I do not have any real personnal background knowledge so your opinion as a staunch Labour person interests me .Do you think these 2 are a good choice to get them back in power . Hipkins seemed such an obvious choice but Sepuloni over Allan I wonder why . I still feel her dismissing the children commissioner against the advise of all other interested parties did not look good .

  15. Play the ball not the man or woman. Policy decisions are made collectively within a government. No minister is a dictator issuing commands on a whim. After Aderns resignation I’m seriously over the constant personalization of politicians and policy.
    Voters are also responsible for policy and the constraints that limit genuine change but somehow it’s all the fault of a single individual. This is what the media did with Trump. Suddenly all of the long standing ills of the US where solely due to one man and his single term in office.
    The article gives no serious explanation of why the minister made the decisions she did or the horrific of complexities of families in trouble.
    Neither does the article examine the consequences for not acting on children at risk. Nuance and an explanation of how and why OT does what it does and the horrific child abuse stats that is tasked with improving.
    Social work is the toughest job in the world with no perfect solution to highly complex issues. You are damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

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