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  1. Actually just like everyone else in our country we have right to complain. I think some of our Maori whanau are sick and tired of the same old people getting critical appointments. And I agree with some of what has been said because I personally did not agree with everything Simpson wrote in her report, why? cause it was just more of the same old ideas being regurgitated. What is wrong with us having Tino Rangatiratanga? Many of us are sick and tired of being controlled and told what to do and how best to do it and not be given the same opportunity to do it ourselves and our way. Too many have benefited from our misery and being paid well despite failing and continuing to fail. Old school people like Simpson still believe the state knows best and they are best placed to deliver when this has been proven to not be the case.

  2. Sounds like a few more than Rodney have had baked beans for breakfast…

    Iron Maiden – Sheriff Of Huddersfield
    https://youtu.be/TO5sCTn3bR4?t=4

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    A few words from Rodney, – the sheriff of Huddersfield.
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    ”Don’t think its bloody funny at all, – dunno what your all laughing about,…nuu I’m not ! OOOer…. Yer,…geroff ! No I don’t, no !

    Hello, – let me introduce meself. My names Rodney, I’m immensely strong. When I was a lad, I could lift five navvies on the end of my shovel ! The reason I didn’t pick up martial arts, was because I was immensely fearsome , and I’d probably kill everybody I came in contact with. I was phenomenally strong, pride and ego , my lads, pride and ego ! Its what makes the world rotate. And everybody knows, the center of the universe is Huddersfield ! That’s why I don’t live there anymore, – I live in Los Angeles, – its great ! …. I think…

    Bloody well right !

    Bloody watch it !

    No it isn’t ! Now I don’t know what your making such a fuss about , – no I don’t, – I’m not in it for the money ! I like it here- the sun shines all night!

    So I’m a Yorkshire-man , – I can take it! ” ….

    1. Wild Katipo: “….the center of the universe is Huddersfield!”

      Heh! I chuckled over this. Apropos of nothing in particular regarding the rest of this comment thread, we’ve been to Huddersfield. One lot of my ancestors emigrated from there.

      It’s a thoroughly charming market town in the West Riding of Yorkshire. The history of settlement there goes back over 4000 years.

      Many of the buildings are of that golden sandstone seen so much in Yorkshire. The town is built on hills. We were taken by surprise at its beauty.

      In the town centre, there’s a modern shopping mall, obviously built over the ancient trading centre. We bought some items at one of the shops: its address was “Packhorse Walk”, doubtless a reflection of the area’s provenance.

      The shop assistant was looking at us quizzically as we talked to each other. My partner asked her if she could figure out where we were from. South Africa? she ventured. Not bad at all, I said. The British South African accent is very similar to ours. We said that we’re NZers, and congratulated her on not thinking that we were Australian! She laughed….

      At our hotel, the desk clerk – who knew that we were on the family history trail – remarked that an Australian family there recently had not only found their ancestor’s house, but that said house still had their ancestor’s name on it. We marvelled at this. Unfortunately, my own ancestor’s property had been in a row of old houses demolished to make way for Kirklees College.

      The south Asian (mostly from Pakistan) population of Huddersfield is about 8%, I believe. In any event, the desk clerk was of Pakistani descent. So, I judged, was an older man sitting behind the counter. He said to us in a very broad Yorkshire accent: “Oh, nothing much changes in Huddersfield.” Not necessarily a bad thing, we said, thinking of the beautiful old buildings here which have been skittled in the name of progress – or earthquake strengthening.

      We were completely captivated by Huddersfield; by Yorkshire generally, in truth. I used to urge people to go there, in those far-off days when the borders were still open. I hope to get back to that area before I die.

  3. I can’t see how Maori can claim ‘Kingi’ as a truly Maori word anyway. Linguistically, it is obviously the English word ‘King’ with an insignificant ‘i’ added. This is a bit like the English suddenly deciding that words like ‘Schadenfreude’ (borrowed from German) and ‘coup de grace’ (borrowed from French) are precious cultural treasures of the English language.
    By the way, I have just read Vincent O’Malley’s book on the Waikato wars, and have full sympathy for the Kingi movement, and the Waikato Maori, utterly unjustly invaded. I am quite happy to see name-changes etc where Lord Grey is concerned.
    But language is language, and ‘Kingi’ is only a recent imported borrowing into the Maori language. It is also definitely fishermen’s slang for kingfish.

    1. In Vino: “I can’t see how Maori can claim ‘Kingi’ as a truly Maori word anyway.”

      Indeed. It’s a transliteration of the English “king”. Maori are right to regard it as a part of the modern language, but its etymology must be recognised. It isn’t a pre-European word.

      “…I have just read Vincent O’Malley’s book on the Waikato wars…”

      Yeah, I’ve also read it. A terrific book, isn’t it? That’s a shabby history, for sure.

  4. They can have Kingi if they want it, who cares, we have bigger things to worry about at the moment, like who will get neglected the most by MOH due to this new outbreak. No doubt it will be the same people who will be hit the hardest by this latest lock down and the same people who haven’t even been overseas.

    1. Covid is pa: “No doubt it will be the same people who will be hit the hardest by this latest lock down and the same people who haven’t even been overseas.”

      Self-pitying nonsense. Get a grip! This is a VIRUS: it cannot distinguish its hosts on the basis of skin colour or ethnicity. It’s a coronavirus – as is the common cold – and it’s contagious. It’ll spread like wildfire among people who live or socialise in close proximity with one another. This is how it’s spread overseas, where populations are huge and people live cheek by jowl, so to speak. If you’ve been to any of the world’s major cities, or countries like China, Japan and India, you’ll understand this.

      Everyone who’s obliged to live under house arrest is affected the same way. Moreover, many of us haven’t been overseas in the last year, even if we’ve previously travelled.

      I remind you that the initial outbreak here was brought in from overseas by travellers, thus disproportionately affecting relatively young people. No surprises there.

      At that time, Maori and Pacific Island people were disproportionately unaffected. If such people are disproportionately affected this time, that’s because the virus has come in to a family in the community, and has been spread by virtue of how that community lives and socialises.

  5. @ In Vino. Good on you for reading O’Malley’s magnificent book. I have to get it again from the library. I was soooo distressed at what I was reading that I had to stop. With more objectivity & less emotion, I consider I will be able to read the book to its conclusion. (But I get emotional about much that’s occurring on Earth – especially re children (who are our country’s future.)

  6. Its not helpful for these Maori at the resturant to be claiming cultural appropriation of a word which Maori themselves appropriated from the British Crown.

    Since aspects of Maori culture such as the Tiki and the Ta Moko are also appropriated by Maori from other,far older races from Iran among other geographical locations,the comments these ladies have made show their ignorance.

    These are the same types who deny the existence of the Hotu Nation and numerous other pre Maori,First Nations of Aotearoa.

    Tuwharetoa,Tainui/Maniapoto and others genocided the First Nations and have recorded the fact in their oral and written histories.

    Tuwharetoa has settled with tbe Crown,which returned lands around Mt Ruapehu to it,lands which Tuwharetoa knows it stole from the Hotu Nation.

    Tuwharetoa and the Crown both agreed to suppress the existence of Ngati Hotu,as both have acted as colonial barbarians towards the First Nations,of which Maori are the last and most recent before the coming of the europeans.

    For this,corrupt corporate Maori and their abusive Crown treaty partner should all be viewed with suspicion and even contempt.

  7. Its not helpful for this lot at the resturant to be claiming cultural appropriation of a word which Maori themselves appropriated from the British Crown.

    Since aspects of Maori culture such as the Tiki and the Ta Moko are also appropriated by Maori from other,far older races from Iran among other geographical locations,the comments these ladies have made show their ignorance.

    These are the same types who deny the existence of the Hotu Nation and numerous other pre Maori,First Nations of Aotearoa.

    Tuwharetoa,Tainui/Maniapoto and others genocided the First Nations and have recorded the fact in their oral and written histories.

    Tuwharetoa has settled with the Crown,which returned lands around Mt Ruapehu to it,lands which Tuwharetoa knows it stole from the Hotu Nation in the 1830’s.

    When i say stole,i mean they hunted down and ate most of the Hotu Nation,causing the survivors to scatter and take refuge in the Taumaranui area and among other more powerful Maori tribes.

    Then Maniapoto came down to Taumaranui and had a vast cannibal feast on most of the survivors,bringing the Hotu Nation within sight of their own extiction.

    Its ironic and perhaps even karmic that some Maori genocided the First Nations and stole their land,as well as stealing each others land,the the master theif,the British Crown come along and attacked Maori,stole their land and forced them into the second class servitude we see today.

    I feel sorry for genuine Maori,but as for the violent,savage,warlike Maori who brutalised the peace loving First Nations and drove them to the verge of extiction via genocide,there is an hypocrisy in their charges against the Crown.

    Although the Crown is a very corrupt entity,europeans never hunted Maori to extiction and never ate them,thought there was Crown genocide.

    Certain Maori have been responsible for the worst atrocities in Aotearoa,closely followed by the Crown itself.

    Keep in mind also it was certain Maori (Ngati Porau and others),who sucked up to the Crown and turned into traitors to their own race,they helped the Crown hunt down and destroy the last of the genuine Maori resistence fighters in the Urewera.

    And so Maori have appropriated the ways of the Crown,the worst of them siding with it.

    The so called Maori king is a corrupt side show,Maori have no king,they are now a race of slaves to the pakeha.

    Tuwharetoa and the Crown both agreed to suppress the existence of Ngati Hotu,as both have acted as colonial barbarians towards the First Nations,of which Maori are the last and most recent before the coming of the europeans.

    For this,corrupt corporate Maori and their abusive Crown treaty partner should all be viewed with suspicion and even contempt.

    1. “I feel sorry for genuine Maori,but as for the violent,savage,warlike Maori who brutalised the peace loving First Nations and drove them to the verge of extiction via genocide,there is an hypocrisy in their charges against the Crown.”

      You’re still perpetuating Kerry Bolton’s discredited “first white tribe” conspiracy fantasy?

      1. Frank Macskasy: “You’re still perpetuating Kerry Bolton’s discredited “first white tribe” conspiracy fantasy?”

        I agree with you. It’s bizarre, is it not? But fictions like this persist, regardless of how often they’ve been debunked.

        It’s a longstanding attempt to white-ant the indisputable fact that voyaging Polynesians were the first humans to arrive here (as the ancestors of the current-day Aborigines were the first humans to arrive in Australia).

        Those pushing it apparently cannot accept that brown-skinned people were indeed the first to populate the Pacific in general, and NZ in particular. But accept it they must, along with the fact that skin colour is completely irrelevant to human intelligence and ability to do anything technological – including building seagoing craft and navigating. Skin colour is an extrinsic characteristic only.

        If indeed there had been humans (of whatever colour) already living here at the time of the first Polynesian arrival, there would be evidence of it. There is none.

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