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  1. Totally agree. If I look at my own thoughts about JA who I voted for, I have sooooo gone off her because of the woke BS surrounding everything she does (and her continued failure on housing and poverty). Every day, I read another annoying woke comment and think, she’s causing so much division when all we want to do is get along with each other.

  2. If the government fails to continue to protect us from covid or the vaccine roll out faulters this could turn the tide of love for thme. Another weakness could be if interest rates climb and the house prices fall or stagnate .

    1. Interest rates are more likely than not going to rise and that’s going to wreak havoc as inflation will surely follow. If anything, it’ll be this that is the undoing of the current labour government as they’ve flooded the country with cheap credit so there are sadly far too many people who have borrowed to the gills and will be fucked.

  3. Come the election, New Zealanders will be measured by their vote. I hope we are not found to be so easily persuaded by contrived ignorance and hate. Interesting that Willis and Bishop have refused to run the ‘what’s wrong with being white?’ shtick on their facebook pages. I wonder who else is staying quiet on that front in the National caucus. Everyone else? Just in case this whole thing blows up in Judith’s face? Media now positioning Judith for the WTF moment when she goes too far. Getting close now. Popcorn time.

  4. privilage runs across all ethnicities some with very little and others with an abundance of , so to call it ‘ white , i think is incorrect .
    there are times when im appreciative of how easy it is to get water by turning on a tap and this isn’t confined to any particular race .

    the scenario Seymour’s gives is unlikely and should not be condoned
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/05/jacinda-ardern-pushes-back-at-david-seymour-over-education-initiative-says-white-privilege-isn-t-mentioned-anywhere.html

    this culture war argument i think is cluthching at straws and don’t think will last

  5. People in Auckland may ‘love Jacinda’ but around here she is seen for what she really is, and people hate her for what she is and what she’s doing to NZ… the biggest wrecking ball in NZ history after John Key and Roger Douglas.

    1. Yes, well the Naki is full of hardball pro farming people fuming at a female prime minister running the show, for Labour no less. National territory, but the old guard is thinning away and the young folk think differently (read better) as regards the environment said farmers are wrecking. It will be back to Labour one day. Besides all the grumpy old men can go suck a kumera when the new FPA, He Puapua and CGT Brightline kick in. Things are looking up don’t you think?

      1. Yes what do you expect from the red neck Naki mostly pakeha farmers many are sitting on those perpetual leases that are no good for Maori land owners. This lots days are numbered.

  6. Causing division is what National have busy doing as we now have two gutless masked up twats on line telling NZers to commit violence against Maori, marae and to create civil unrest. As for this word, ‘woke’ its overused and made up bullshit.

  7. Jacinda: Subract all social and MSM, subtract Jacinda’s rhetoric, the result.. surprise, surprise is what Jacinda does.

    And thank you Mr Occam ( always a welcome guest at Thornton Grange)… ” Watch what Jacinda does, not what she says.”

    There are rumours, but no sightings of, Jacinda charging, Boadicea like, Covid 19 down in her chariot.

    Mr Occam is such a cynic he thinks that was a Muppet Party sorry excuse me.. a Labour Party generated myth.

    And to think.. I gave ’em Two Ticks!

  8. Yes what do you expect from the red neck Naki mostly pakeha farmers many are sitting on those perpetual leases that are no good for Maori land owners. This lots days are numbered.

  9. The left doesn’t realize how much capital the hate speech and sex crime reforms will burn. Anyone who says these reforms aren’t going to turn people off the left aren’t paying attention. There is definitely the potential for a culture war in nz.

    The hate speech laws in particular are going to be a cluster f , combine that with the sex crimes law and every woke activist and journalist screaming bloody murder about how privlidged white working class people are and middle class people who are really feeling the pinch there’s absolutely potential for a push back. Especially from working class and poor people. If they find out woke people are teaching their kids to be ashamed of NZ and to feel guilty for being white combined with the fear of not being able to say anything least you be fired and canceled….

    The upper middle class wokies who despise class based politics and spit venemous hatred at poor people and lecture people about privlidge 24/7 are a noose around the lefts neck

    Honestly. National could do well if they ditched the neolib shit and went full blown Muldoon Keynesian economically and just attacked wokeness because working class people are socially conservative and some of the radical ideas the woke and the media and academics tout are frightening to the working class. It’s absolutely possible that like in the uk the left become the side of the upper middle class and townies and right become the side of the working class and regions.

    Hell by running in the Maori seats national could win them all by a lab/Maori/green/mana split on the left and just one right wing party on the right (nzf won them all once by being Keynesian)

    I just can’t see it right now cos nats are too busy defending landlords and the business round table to seriously engage in such a tactic

    1. Corey you are dreaming about the National party winning the Maori seats even if there is a split in Maori votes. Many of our people have already shown how strategically they can vote especially when the chips are down.
      If I were the Maori party I would be lobbying for more of our Maori people to get themselves on the Maori roll so we can get more seats.

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