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  1. Well before Warren can move on she can no longer use words she does not understand the meanings of like how does sexism and Sanders even go together?

  2. Because of the damned impeachment business, both Bernie and Liz Warren have to leave off their campaigning anyway, as Senators, and instead become part of the trial.

    Bernie seems to be saying, “Don’t listen to Trump! He is trying to divide us! We will not be divided.”
    who-rigging-what-bernie-sanders-denounces-trump-effort-divide

    (Trump was tweeting madly about the election being rigged against poor Bernie… Since when was t-rump so solicitous about either Bernie’s election chances or a rigged election?)

  3. Berie Sanders is a true socialist and no-one else in the democratic party can claim that mantle.

    it seems ironic that the democatic party likes to destroy their own strong candidates and deserves the mattle of “eating their own”

    Stange Political party there.

  4. if Sanders can beat Warren and then beat Trump, Class Left solidarity will have retaken the philosophical high ground on the Left.

    Yes.

    It’s very disappointing that he has to be locked away in the Senate, over something that should have been wrapped up long ago (impeach), when he would prefer to be out there talking to people. It seems so unfair – other candidates can yabber away all they want during that time, and also, Bernie won’t be out there to defend himself if attacks are made against him.

  5. Looked to be a clear-cut case of ambush on Bernie by the ditherer-in-chief Warren of Dork

  6. The class v wokedom is such a problem precisely because it’s a class issue. As it the quote from the Atlantic points out twitter users are better (or more accurately, more) educated and are part of the middle class. The traditional left is working class but middle class educated people look down on the working class. Since it’s a mortal sin to be racist, homophobic or sexist the only people left to for the middle class to hate are what used to be called “white trash” so this hatred is even more pronounced than it used to be.

    We have to be really clear that this is class hatred at work here – even though it makes more sense to hate the super rich, the middle class have always directed their hatred downwards.

    Added to this, the main political parties have reverted to a conservative and a liberal party – like it used to be before the labour movement created it’s own political party. As happened the first time around it will require a people’s movement to come off the streets and into parliament before we get real change.

  7. agree about identity politics but Warren the establishment? Just because she said Sanders said what let’s be honest we’ve all wondered post 2016? Absolutely not, Warren created the consumer protection bureau, and is the most progressive Democrat in the Senate as Bernie is an independent neither Bernie nor Warren would be very interesting or progressive in NZ politics considering Sanders is no bloody progressive hero he voted to dump Vermonts nuclear waste in poor Latinos communities in Texas , voted several times to fund the Iraq war (yes he voted against the war but he voted to bloody fund it over and over again) his votes in favor of private prisons and up until recently has voted against most gun control measures (he has to pander to Vermont the most rural and oldest population in the union and they love guns) he’d be a left wing member of NZ first here, he wouldn’t be labour of green. AOC considers herself in alignment with our prime minister ! The despute between Warren and Sanders literally only helps the establishment which both of them have spent their careers fighting.

    As for there being no policy difference between labour and national, most Lefty’s around the world would trade their arm and legs for what this govt is achieving, our prime minister would be on the hard left of American politics, this govt has a lot of work to do but the idea that a govt that’s increasing funding to our state services, rebuilding school infrastructure, massively increasing funding to mental health departments and built more state houses than any govt since Kirk is the same as the Tories is infuriating, part of me hopes national wins so you can see the difference between the parties.

    None of this will matter in about 5 years when all the jobs even doctors will be replaced by machines and ai and noone on the left or right has a plan for the mass unemployment not the left nor the right as each side is still clinging to philosophies from the 19th and 20th century the left really needs to ditch the woke but also these grumpy hardcore left wing purists who lose as many votes as the woke and have just as much in common with working class voters as the woke.

  8. Thinking about the us, NZ US, while the fairground tinkles on in the other 4 eyes (making an indecent spectacle of themselves), I note from Bryce Edwards Guardian piece linked above, a confirmation of what we lefties have been afraid of in this election year:

    Nor is the government likely to push any significant new leftwing economic reforms, or even tax hikes, giving National little to scare swing voters with. And there’s no way that National can hope to best Ardern in terms of a campaign based on leadership and personality.

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