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  1. When wasd that poll done, it shows downwards trajectory for Act, Nah! I call crap top that!

  2. Martyn, you forget the referendum on the Treaty. ACT says this is a “bottom line” in any negotiations with National.

    So, we will get a referendum, the result will vastly support the closure of the grievance industry. Based on this they will shut down the Waitangi Tribunal or greatly trim its scope and remove all references to the Treaty in law.

    Game over.

    1. How f*cking ridiculous. We broke an
      agreement so let’s have a referendum on whether that agreement is worth anything. If National have any spine they would tell him no. National were at least setting grievances when they were last in power because they somehow had enough moral fortitude.

    2. How f*cking ridiculous. We broke an
      agreement so let’s have a referendum on whether that agreement is worth anything. If National have any spine they would tell him no. National were at least setting grievances when they were last in power because they somehow had enough moral fortitude.

      1. Historically the Crown was in breech in some respects, and the Crown has spent the last 30 years rectifying that with the Treaty claims process. At this point there is only one left and that is Ngapui’s. This has been delayed because of in-fighting within the tribe.

        I didn’t sign the Treaty and I don’t represent the Crown, nor do any NZ citizens except perhaps the Governor General. So, Maori grievances aren’t my problem; I wasn’t even here when they were committed!

        Meanwhile, the country needs a constitution that is race blind and provides a good basis for future development.

        1. “Māori grievances aren’t my problem” Great it’s not your land (if you happen to own some) we are talking about, and you don’t represent the crown who did take the land ( in some respects my arse) in question, so it’s nothing for you to worry about Andrew. Guess what the Crown wasn’t there even if you weren’t. Hey everybody let’s not do anything about abuse of children in state care because it turns Andrew wasn’t there….

  3. Labour can promise all they want but I sure as shit wont be believing a word of it…

  4. Very hard to describe National as “ hard right.”
    I view Luxon as “ soft left. “ with nothing but opaque policies.
    ACT is the only party that has produced a fully costed alternate budget, mainly funded by a sylhet ripping through our bloated underperforming civil service.
    The Labour / Green “ hard left “ are nothing less than financially illiterate economic vandal’s.

  5. If your not shitting yourself about the economic shit storm the greedy have in store with a Tory victory. Your not paying attention.

  6. Woke’s calling for a rent freeze to pretend that’s that issue, rather than skyrocketing rips offs and 3rd world wages in NZ.

    I guess when you are too woke to turn up to debates or even do basic research on cost of living prices.

    Auckland rents are nearly 25% LOWER than Sydney,
    Auckland wages are 26% LOWER after tax than Sydney workers.
    Bank fixed interest rates are 36% HIGHER in Auckland than Sydney.
    Milk is 29% LOWER in Sydney than Auckland
    Cheese is 18% LOWER in Sydney than Auckland
    Gas is 24% HIGER In Auckland than Sydney

    Average rent in Auckland for 3 bedroom, $633
    https://www.barfoot.co.nz/market-reports/2022/september/suburb-report
    Average rent in Sydney for 3 bedroom in city centre (NZ dollars) $1253
    Average rent in Sydney for 3 bedroom outside city centre $805
    https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Sydney?displayCurrency=NZD

    Statistics show that the cost of living in NZ vs OZ are not around rents but wages and all the other rip offs here.

    But the woke and right wingers are invested in pretending it’s rents rather than poor wages and rip offs in food, bank interest rates, petrol.

    Cost of living crisis: NZ voted second worst country to move to
    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/cost-of-living-crisis-new-zealand-voted-second-worst-country-to-move-to/

  7. A change would be nice.

    Our current crop of MPs have a candy-coated-shell of self-esteem – impenetrable to voters.

    When governments change; departments, ministries and funding gets shaken up – that’s the nature of democracy.

    It’s best to be grateful for the opportunity (often highly remunerated) to serve as an elected/appointed MP/official.

    WW3 is possibly on the horizon, if not today, perhaps in 5 years after various countries have military build ups in the shadows.

    I welcome more adults in the room.. will that be National/ACT..?? I’m not sure about that.. yet it’s definitely NOT this iteration of Labour and the Greens.

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