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  1. A career ender surely for any NZ Justice or other ruling class rep that decides in Kim’s favour!

    I too hope KDC triumphs against the huge odds.

    The funny thing is some of Trump’s bent judges might be more favourable to him than the previous bench.

    Perhaps in future years Key’s filthy role will be properly presented by academia and politicians.

  2. “There was also the spying failure where it turned out the Government Communications Security Bureau – partner agency to the National Security Agency – was following a rulebook written on a misunderstanding of its own law.”

    Calling it a “misunderstanding” is far too generous, everyone else understood that the law plainly stated that the GCSB couldn’t legally spy on NZ citizens. Until Key retrospectively changed the law to make it legal.

    Yet, Labour have said nothing in 3 years let alone done anything to change this…

  3. Thanks, Martyn, for this analysis. NZ media has rarely been more cowardly than after the Moment of Truth, which showed exactly how much Key lied — but their rage was directed instead towards Dotcom.
    I went to hear the speakers at the Auckland Town Hall and couldn’t believe how little connection the reaction afterwards had to the damning truths exposed during the meeting.
    And, yes, NZ could be on the hook for billions of dollars. Sony could see the dangers but NZ couldn’t.

  4. This sounds churlish, but for me the most horrifying image over the entirety of the fit up of Kim Dotcom, was the sight of Russell Brown plus assorted media acolytes striding into “The Kim Dotcom Show” featuring Glenn Greenwald, Ed Snowden & my personal hero of the 21st century, Julian Assange.

    Just from the general demeanor of the at that time, ‘avant garde’ element of the kiwi media & their swaggering; blind freddie could see that the good old boys club had already decided how they, the self appointed conscience of kiwi electronic media, were going to play the story of Mr Dotcom, even before they heard anything. This wasn’t gonna be a win for either Dotcom or the Mana Party, a political organisation whose media coverage in Aotearoa is an early miniature model of the disparaging tossage currently being visited upon orangeutan, the amerikan prez.

    That was the time when I first accepted that kiwi media was hopelessly compromised – as bad as anything in amerika, Oz or england and reached sans Rupert Murdoch.

    I’m sorta angry at Dotcom on two counts, one he made himself the perfect victim & two, his idiocy destroyed the only political movement I could vote for with an easy conscience.

    Which is not to say Mana were perfect, far from it. After they scored the Dotcom bucks and foolishly used it to employ a bunch of tired boomer hacks, I knew they were screwed. Still, if Mana had hung in there, they would have undergone a renaissance – eventually. Now there is nothing – the greens get a degree of magnitude less caring, less competent and less honest every election cycle and as much as I wish for it I am yet to believe some rich person will see the light and support the growth of a genuine leftist environmental political movement.

    So we all know what that means it is now, just as it has always been, down to us.

    Any deal between labour and the greens will be choka with biting, scratching, knees to the balls & leaks. They are both gonna be fighting for the same paddock – the slightly left of center. The Greens because they imagine it is ‘their base’ and labour because it knows that as much as it only considers policy that will appeal to right of center voters they scored in 2020, many will slide back to the Natz. Therefore they must run a quiet faux left act to deceive the substantial number of aging “dunno about the greenies, but workers are copping a bad deal” voters back into imagining that deep down this is still the party of Norm Kirk.

  5. This whole thing is an utter clusterfuck. If I was the government/court, I’d suck this one up, take the loss, and acknowledge NZ was ill prepared for a lawsuit of this magnitude.

    1. One thing we all know is that Donald Trump hates the ‘Washington swamp’ and the FBI/CIA as they have all railed against him as an “outsider”, so perhaps he may be soft on another ‘outsider’ that was railing against the ‘Digital swamp’ of ‘Gates and his crooks’.

      One can only hope. Remember Donald Trump hates also the ‘global cabal’ that conspired against him with rules inside the TPPA that he would not ever join.

  6. Dotcom wont be extradited. Anyone who thinks that is a fool. I have maintained that this case will be dragged out through the courts for years, and then it will be dropped at the last moment, with Kim settling.

    1. nope, in the US, Joe Biden is indebted to the film industry for political donations and the big US film industry wants to prove a point with no risk to themselves of course, and why wouldn’t they when the NZ taxpayer is paying and doing the illegal searches and harassment etc and our government approved that approach (under Key, but COL does nothing)?

      We prefer to protect and foster child molesters and rapists here, rather than IT professionals who can generate millions in income.

      Child abuser wins right to stay in New Zealand for humanitarian reasons
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/84891031/child-abuser-wins-right-to-stay-in-new-zealand-for-humanitarian-reasons

      Child abuse dad avoids deportation on humanitarian grounds to stay with family
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/76059417/

      New resident convicted of sex offending twice, won’t be deported
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11837608

      Judge’s difficult sentencing of a former refugee who won’t stop offending
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/111480343/judges-difficult-sentencing-of-a-refugee-who-wont-stop-offending

      Rapist wins case to be allowed to stay in NZ
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/327784/rapist-wins-case-to-be-allowed-to-stay-in-nz

      1. No prosecution to this money launderer laundering Russian and Polish drug money…
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12260326

        4 months in their pent house for this money launderer…(and only because he invested in Dotcom, while he gambled hundreds of millions at Skycity, NZ authorities turned a blind eye…

        “EXCLUSIVE: He’s always claimed innocence, but millionaire granted citizenship despite being wanted for fraud overseas has pleaded guilty to money laundering after mammoth investigation.
        KEY POINTS:
        William Yan pleads guilty to money laundering, name suppression lifted.
        Will serve sentence in penthouse apartment.
        NZ to keep $15m of seized $43m.’
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/controversial-citizen-william-yan-aka-bill-liu-admits-money-laundering-of-significant-sums/ZTXEQ3DSHDBZHDLTEZSNUEBER4/

        This offender put bleach in shampoos to chemically burn their landlord but apparently don’t even get a conviction because they might get Covid-19 in Argentina if they got a conviction.
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/disgruntled-tenant-avoids-punishment-for-giving-landlord-chemical-burn/7LYV6D5W65SK4W3QJRPS2M7TAY/?&ref=topbox

    1. Where’s the proof John Key is a good man???
      Convict him for “the Panama papers” and his involvement in that crime while NZ Prime minister. whom he quickly fled from being remember???.
      https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/key-faces-sustained-questioning-nz-presence-panama-papers-b-187079
      Guilty by association, and acting as a deperate man in Parliament on the edge of his loss of reasonability, he knew then he was guilty and resigned as PM just like a guilty man would.
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/panama-papers/303600/john-key-thrown-out-of-parliament

    2. Very good at convincing dumbo media that the good man Hager was a conspiracy theorist in spite of good documented evidence to the contrary. Read “ Dirty Politics” ? A good read with good info about his good friend Whale Oil. Good enough to OK the moonlight savaging of good women and good children in the far away violated valleys of Afghanistan forever destroying lives and peace of minds in the interests of the good old US of A. Jolly good.

      How about somebody just pixelates his offensive face as per above.

    3. Your definition of.a good man is bizarre. Key was known by the alias ” smiling assassin” not because he was good.

      1. Just read it thanks, Bert. Good analysis, but it doesn’t say much about our values as a people. I’m stymied that women liked Key – I thought him slimey- no charisma or character at all – glib, superficial opportunist. The ‘ Guardian ‘ article did need to look at the contribution of MSM in popularising Key, esp the fawning Fairfax females.

        Couple of years ago one of them interviewed the doggie man of Iraq, suggesting him as
        a future Nat leader specifically in the mould of Key, and really, his main qualification, once again, just seemed to be making pots of money and smiling a lot. Scarey.

        1. Yep Applewood our values need to be questioned on Key. I wonder how the 200 odd employees of Meryl Lynch felt. Some co-workers called him “the smiling assassin” for maintaining his usual cheerfulness while sacking dozens (some say hundreds) of staff after heavy losses from the 1998 Russian financial crisis.

          He was all about the money yet the brainwashed followed him with glee.

          1. He said he wanted people to like him – pathetic from a grown up man – and respect is far more appropriate for a pollie – maybe beyond his ken or concern.

            Using Ireland as he did is also disgusting. Sorry to see that.

            Visiting there about 1970 the visible poverty was heart wrenching – gave a perspective on the Irish who came all the way here – including those ill-educated, ignorant, well- meaning Mercy nuns – poor girls whose only other escape could be going to Liverpool as a waitress or prostitute or down-trodden skivvy. Some cried at night in their convent sleepings, emerged red-eyed at dawn.

            And here in New Zealand that poverty is being duplicated, but with no escape for too many.

            Stop on a layby or a cold beach in Eire, and a shabby shawl-wrapped crone may appear saying that this is really her land but the government took it away, but you can stop if you give her half a crown.

            Sound familiar ?

            Lock him up.

    4. A good man? He was, and continues to be, a lot of things, but a good man has never been one of them. I’d love nothing more than for the entire country to forget he even exists. You know, kind of like how Key and National forgot Aroha Ireland existed once she’d served her purpose as a ‘poverty prop’ for National’s campaign.

  7. Absolute miscarriage of justice…. good analysis.

    Hope the NZ government, media and justice are proud of themselves, kinda like a public lynching.

    So a time where the Greens and Labour, could become the voice of justice…. ah can anyone hear anything…

    1. Are you recommending political interference in the result of this case by Labour and Greens or because of it by National, United Future and ACT?

      1. @ Bert, Both. Key and Co led the persecution of Dotcom in NZ’s name and COL who love to give harbour, convicted offenders as Sroubek on compassionate grounds, but apparently so far, allowing this travesty and the human rights pandora box of extradition on dubious grounds with illegal searches etc to go ahead.

  8. Meanwhile this guy gets a knighthood. From https://www.thevinnyeastwoodshow.com/vinny-mr-news-eastwoods-blog/john-keys-real-past-exposed-must-see-please-share-6mins

    Ladies and gentlemen, John Key,
    Leader of the National Party
    Prime Minister Of New Zealand since 2008
    Everyone Voted for him without knowing his track record,
    Who he worked for, Where his career originated & how he does business today.
    By the end of this Short Video you will know enough to be able to make an informed decision when voting him in or not again.
    Little Johnny was born in a state house,
    A Son of an alcoholic absentee father
    & guilt provoking mother
    who pins all her hopes on her son,
    living vicariously through him,
    especially because she never had another boy
    and never remarried.
    She then allegedly inherited a large sum
    and allegedly spent much of it on her son.

    John worked for 10 years
    as a New Zealand investment banker
    since the mid 1980’s
    When the market crashed
    he made a killing selling New Zealand dollars.
    He headed offshore In 1995
    working for…

    -Merrill Lynch
    This bank was exposed as the worlds first derivatives traders
    & went bust during the 2008 financial crisis due to its heavy investment in the derivatives market,
    swallowed up BY…

    – The Bank of America
    Which it turns out John Key still has shares in,
    A conflict of interest considering anyone could google the Bank name and “fines”
    to see it’s been fined many times for drug dealing,
    gun running, money laundering & is famous for getting countries into debt,
    Is John Key personally profiting from New Zealand’s growing indebtedness ?
    The Bank of America also has a stake in the military industrial complex
    who’ve profited tremendously after several successive, no end in sight, illegal US wars.
    This gives you an idea of the kind of circles John revolves in.
    John’s worked for Merrill Lynch in Singapore, London, Sydney & …

    -Ireland
    When the “Irish Tiger” economy was kicking off,
    It was allowing “sweet heart” tax breaks
    to big banks and financial institutions
    if they moved their back offices to Ireland,
    So John did, Assisting 15,000 of his clients to Avoid Tax
    the Irish economy was hollowed out with debt,
    collapsing shortly after John skipped the country & put all his money into…

    -“Blind Trusts”
    John Key knows what’s in his blind trusts,
    he’s a bit of a drinker and he let it slip while a bit pissed
    that he owns a vineyard,
    turns out that vineyard is in his blind trust,
    although he claims he doesn’t know what’s in it.
    This is because he has 2 trusts,
    1 blind & 1 not so blind that mirrors the other one.

    He was in charge of business units like
    global foreign exchange
    and European bond and…

    -Derivative Trading
    What is Derivative Trading?
    Basically it’s so complicated that the Auditor general once said something like
    “it’s such a technical area that I can’t understand it,
    so I got KPMG to investigate themselves for me and they assure me it’s all good”
    Recall the great depression?
    Of course not, in the 1920’s you could buy $10 worth of shares for only $1 down
    allowing people to gamble on the stock market at incredible volumes,
    massive amounts of fake money & debt was generated
    and the economy got sucked into it like a black hole.
    To prevent that happening again, a law was crafted called…

    -The Glass Steagall Act
    Which was repealed in 1999 leaving the US derivatives market completely unregulated.
    The New York State gaming Commission tried to regulate it because they saw derivatives as gambling,
    but they were unsuccessful, obviously.

    In 1999 John was legally allowed to sell derivatives in America due to the repeal of Glass Steagall,
    Was invited to represent Merrill Lynch & join the Foreign Exchange Committee
    of the…

    -Federal Reserve Bank of New York
    A private banking cartel that has a monopoly on the supply of money
    and loan it to the US government at interest & more or less control the US government through debt.
    Ownership of the 13 banks with shares in the FED can be traced back to the worlds most ultra intergenerational wealth families, hidden away from public view via an elaborate network of family trusts.

    John Worked there for 2 years and twice undertook management studies at Harvard University in Boston.
    He became known as the smiling assassin by colleagues
    after personally terminating over a hundred employees in one day
    with a big beaming smile, no guilt, no remorse, no conscience, a…

    -Corporate Psychopath
    Charming & enchanting when you first meet them
    But are ultimately shallow and have few meaningful lasting relationships,
    They crave money and power and are willing to sabotage,
    intimidate, manipulate, steal, defame, lie and cheat, shamelessly without guilt,
    Desiring attention & idolization with pathological narcissism & despising criticism,
    Often sexually promiscuous.
    Private prosecutor Graham McCready is including a DVD of
    The Wolf Of Wall Street in his evidence against John Key
    Evidence of the lifestyle & mentality Key & co-workers likely enjoyed on wall street.

    Normally on Wall Street your earnings get paid
    40% Cash,
    40% Stock
    20% Options
    Key demanded to be paid 100% in stock and options
    That’s where his incentive to crime is!
    Imagine the opportunities for insider trading when you literally run the country?
    He tried to flush out commercially sensitive information from the ombudsman when trans-rail was being valued while at the same time owning shares in it!
    John Key just can’t help himself.

    When Key left Wall Street after 6 or 7 years in foreign exchange,
    he was in the tip top of the elite, with roughly 50 million on salary and bonuses,
    -Key refers to his 5 million dollar mansion as the house that Merrol built,
    They had a beach house in Omaha and now have a 3.2 million Hawaii holiday home,
    Only 202,000 people have incomes above 30 Million Dollars
    Roughly 2,000 of those are billionaires,
    -John Says
    “We’re not ridiculously wealthy, there are lots of people not seen on the NBR rich list that have a lot of money.”
    Not counting his blind trusts he could be worth hundreds of millions.
    Is he wall street banker or New Zealand prime minister?

    Jumping forward to the 2008 financial crisis:
    Money Magazine said derivatives were one of the chief causes of the 2008 credit crunch,
    A collapse that happened in the same year we elected John Key
    To handle the debt crisis he helped cause
    as he admitted on breakfast tv!
    And what did he do once elected in order to save us from the debt crisis?
    He borrowed more money than all previous prime ministers combined!
    We’ve gone from 8 billion to over 80 billion so far,
    With 112 Billion worth of derivative debts
    In Off The Books Accounting Since 2011 and growing!
    Key knew about his unauthorized biography long before it was released,
    guess what? It doesn’t even mention the word derivatives once!

    A man of the people you say?
    He’s supposed to be the Member of Parliament for Helensville,
    & lives across town in a 5 million dollar Parnell Mansion he calls “the house that Merrol built”,
    Only had 1 public meeting in his electorate the whole election,
    On the proviso that no one can talk about or criticize him, any other party,
    Or their policy, Or their candidates,
    And guess who was the only person that violated those conditions which John Key himself set up for everyone else? John Key!

    So, let me see if I have this straight,
    he’s a psychopathic narcissistic passive aggressive mamas boy with daddy issues,
    And he has control of a country that has no corruption prevention framework?

    He may have been sent here to destroy this country,
    But it is not yet destroyed & we can change our future if we choose to.
    Sink Team Key and it will deal a crippling blow to the financial elite’s agenda.
    This is Vinny Eastwood, Vote Wisely New Zealand.

  9. Yes we are very immature here in our country Martyn and I personally do not have any respect nor do I trust or have any faith in our entire justice system including the NZ Police. There is deeply embedded racism, discrimination and a very bad I know right attitude in our entire judicial system. This will be hard to change cause too many NZers are so shallow, naïve and self serving. Many NZers think our justice system is so good and the law is the law and it is always right. Many NZders never question or challenge authority. But many have not had to deal with the Justice system so they have no experience either and they tend to believe every word of those wielding power. How many people are sitting in our prisons that may be innocent and how many NZers don’t have access to a decent lawyer or good legal advice? This whole Dot-Com fiasco in my view has made a mockery of us, our legal systems and our elected PM who has acted like a puppet. And as for all those fools that put wonky johnkey up on a pedestal they need to eat their fucken words. And to think this man got a knighthood also makes an utter joke of us and our country.

    1. Yes, CiP, we’ve got some growing up to do in this country. Too many people out there just rely on “what they are told” in the media, and accept it rather than think more deeply for themselves. And the justice system needs a massive overhaul. It is from a different century, a different millennium.

  10. Hollywood and the MPAA are pleased with NZ and dudes like Peter Jackson and James Cameron are revelling in the tax breaks and Covid free status of the NZ film industry. The NZ movie industry would happily offer Kim Dotcom’s head on a platter. NZ governments are enamoured with making Hollywood blockbusters, so I wouldn’t be surprised if we caved in to our corporate overlords

    1. I enjoyed watching the remake of ‘Mulan’, then as I read that the cast and crew would have had to travel past around six Uigher internment camps on their way to it’s Chinese location, suddenly all that CGI was making my stomach churn. The DMCA is a farce, really, in view of the available technology saturating the planet from well below the knees and way beyond the reach of Van Allen’s electric fluffy slippers. That was Clinton’s baby, I believe, people forget very quickly how their thoughts have been usurped and manipulated through the unregulated misuse of the electromagnetic diaspora.

    2. I suggest it is not about movie making but a much bigger target to crush KDC and send out signals to others in situation off shore of USA. If they win then some of that case will become US and NZ case law. Ozzie next which will be a lot easier.
      Julian Assange is in a not dissimilar process corrupt at every step with processes circumvented, evidence and witnesses not allowed and human rights ignored.
      The Hollywood machine is and has been a major mindwashing propaganda organisation instilling a multitude of unhealthy and destructive memes into our unconscious minds and we have all grown up with that programming.
      How often have you seen a film where the Whites or aligned heros do not win, just to make a simple point about one of the many myths of exceptionalism implanted. The evil enemy is never “us” or the” USA”.

  11. Yes its a disgrace but I’m yet to see NZ pull out of the Five Eyes, I’m yet to see extradition laws reviewed given the US’s repeated human rights abuses, the GCSB watered down or better yet dismantled and a Crown Inquiry into all of this with legal proceedings put on hold.

    I think I already know the outcome and I’ve a pretty good idea who owns our sovereignty.

    1. If you are asking for fairness or justice then tagging on ownership of NZ by Kiwis and I and many others will be with you.

      I look in vein for signs on the horizon but just wait till Biden gets in and the TPPA is resurrect and sovereignty will be openly robbed over and over.
      Our Hostage hood to corporate USA will be more complete.

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