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  1. Susan thank you, I try to read everything you write because you explain the dark fuzzy illogical Kafkaesque world so well.
    When Metiria’s confession came out initially I reflected (briefly) on the mess and mistakes of my 20-30s and was thankful, there but for – oh so many things. I’m in a better place now but wouldn’t like anyone to look over my life and “choices” from decades ago!
    So it was a shock to catch up with my Mother and hear expressed the outrage and fierce reaction her peer group had to this. Extremely disgusted and vigorously condemning rhetoric that really surprised me. It gave the Kennedy Graham situation some context.
    What was the trauma experienced growing up post WW2 and rationing? The mantra “our parents worked hard, we worked hard, no-one was looking for a hand-out” prevails. They had full employment I think?
    But I fear your message will get lost. Can someone please tell the news programs that having more than 4 kids if you’re not Jamie Oliver or the Beckhams is not cool? So interviewing Mother-of-five doing it tough is just going to reinforce the boomer hatred. The belief that these people are feckless and should NOT be given more money. So sad.

    1. I too have been shocked at the reaction. Post war New Zealand into the 1970s was a time when mostly mothers did not work- there was a family benefit, real weekends, little visual poverty. Jobs were plentiful, university cheap, holiday work easy to get. Sole parents plight was recognized with the DPB in the early 1970s. Then we had the generous National super that eliminated serious elder poverty. The 1980s saw the rapid rise in unemployment and then the seriously flawed 1991 budget that cut benefits in a recession– very bad macro policy- and introduced ridiculous levels of targeting. I think people have forgotten how dire the early 1990s were- but even Jim Bolger now says it was all too extreme.

    1. David– I am sorry it is so long. I know attention spans are short. The tenor of the discussion to date is not encouraging

      1. I didn’t mean to imply that it was too long, just that everyone should read it.
        Cheers D J S

        1. Don’t despair. Susan – I avidly read what you put up, but rarely comment. A wonderful post, and not too long.
          It should be rammed down people’s throats… but there we are.

  2. Thanks Susan for providing the facts.
    Its a welcome answer to the grotesque ill informed bluster from the puffed up media .Hope this gets published widely

    1. I cant stand the way the ‘puffed up’ media have brayed for contrition. Honesty is not enough. Often in the investigation processes, beneficiaries are told to ‘show remorse’ to get a lesser sentence.

  3. ‘A letter in the NZ Herald this week asserts: “just as you cant be a little bit pregnant, you cant be a little bit dishonest”.’
    My sister actually bought a Herald that day and I read that letter in disbelief. The Herald has sunk to a new low publishing such witless garbage. Doesn’t the law itself allow for mitigating or extenuating circumstances? Certainly there have been cases when the plea in white collar fraud has been that the plaintiff had become accustomed to a life style which required more support.
    The neo-liberal era has seen more ponzi schemes, vast finamcial scandals and fraud and government collusion in these than in previous times. Think of TAFT, (Troubled Asset Relief Programme)rushed through congress in 2008, something all struggling benefit fraudsters should take to heart as a role model par excellence. TARP opened the Kentucky Fried State Takeaway Drive Through for a $700 million basket of gold encrusted niblits thus violating every principle of the free market and feeding crony capitalists thereafter.
    I too, have been astounded at the reactions to recent events by people I know. We live these days, in a global financial sewer while the world faces a sixth extinction. I wonder now, if this really matters.

    1. Agreed, Archonblatter. I wonder how saintly the life of that letter writer has been? It’s a shame their lives can’t be forensically examined as was Metiria’s. We might find more than a few unpleasant surprises in the closets of those morally-upstanding citizens. ( note sarc)

  4. There are many people, in the media and elsewhere who should be sat down and forced to read your post.

    If they don’t get it, they should read it again.

    Failing all else, we can start by changing the government.

    Let’s hope that the political Left, at least, understand the Catch 22 of welfare policy.

  5. well written and informative piece Susan

    the MOAB was a quarter of a century ago but the effects are with us still, there was a shift in the mid 80s from Social Security with all its flaws, to a war on the “undeserving” poor and WINZ/MSD effectively now being sadistic punishment mazes

    good on you and AAAP and all the others that try and assist the vulnerable and build understanding about one of neo liberalisms primary dirty little secrets

  6. No beneficiary can survive WITHOUT loans from various sources including friends and family. I was told by WINZ that they weren’t interested in debt (though obviously debt repayments have to be included in list of expenditure). All beneficiaries getting only what they are entitled to have greater expenditure then income, so the court case above truly appals me Susan. Did someone dob this person in or did WINZ spy on them to come to this conclusion? If you don’t get financial help in the form of loans, you end up living in a car and starving. Where have we come to in NZ that the right-wingers just don’t get it? A benefit is NOT enough to even pay for the basics. Do they have some Malthusian eugenics programme in mind – let the poor die?

    1. yes to dobbing in– she has name suppression so I dont want to say much more until the final day of hearing in HC on the 26th Sept. I have to pinch myself to realise this while is the 21st century basic accounting principles can be ignored

  7. Its not as if Metiria lolled about waiting to be saved. She was on the benefit for 5 years, which is actually a shorter time than most, and used that time to equip herself to be a future earner and tax payer.It must have taken a lot of dedicated hard work for her to get through law school after schooling that left her with no qualifications.
    If it took a few omissions to SW , who cares?Any one would think she’d murdered the flatmates, or abused her child , the fuss thats being made.
    I reckon she’s paid her dues, and got off the benefit in a remarkably short time.Good on you Metiria! You showed remarkable maturity.

  8. What amazes me is that we have allowed the neo liberal f@#k knuckle brigade so much leniency. 33 years we have let them get away with this drivel.

    I have read that Richardson approached Treasury to ascertain the minimum wage , and also how much a person would need to survive on a benefit ,- then set the benefit 20% below that !

    Three decades we have put up with these scum bastards , – 33 years !!!

    ——————————-
    Ken Douglas, then president of the New Zealand Council of Trade Unions, recalled in the 1996 documentary Revolution:

    The Employment Contracts Act was deliberately intended to individualise the employment relationship. It was a natural outcome of the ideological propaganda of rugged individualism, of self-interest and greed and the appeal to individuals that you could find better for you by climbing over the tops of your colleagues, your mates, and so on. Ruth Richardson was very clear, very blunt, very honest about its purpose. It was to achieve a dramatic lowering of wages, very, very quickly.[5]

    Roger Douglas, minister of finance in the preceding fourth Labour government, said (after his retirement from politics):

    I think the labour market changes in 1990 were first class. I think, unfortunately, Caygill and the Labour party had let the fiscal situation slip from where it was in 1988 and Ruth put that back on the road.

    ——————————-

    Think back to all the privatization , the restructuring , the mass redundancies, the unemployment, the closing down of state run dept’s that employed thousands ( NZ Rail , NZ Post etc ) , the huge protests of tens of thousands against Rogernomics, Ruthanasia , Shipley,… and the sheer arrogance of these shitter’s in totally ignoring what the voters were saying and ramming through all this shit.

    And all we ever got from the buggers were crap moralistic sayings like ” you will feel some pain now , but then you will reap the benefits ‘…

    Like bloody hell we did !!! , – three decades later and there ARE NO benefits.

    Just large numbers of people in poverty and homelessness such as we have never seen before in this country.

    The same scumbags that were instrumental in getting the 1991 Employment Contracts Act passed were the same shitheads who drew up the Mother of all Budgets. And for that we can thank the skulking Business Roundtable ( now calling themselves the New Zealand Initiative).

    How many times did those pricks use their political front people like Bolger, Richardson and Shipley to shaft this country and have them sell off all out state owned assets just so that they could buy them for fire sale prices, sack all the workers, asset strip them and hike up the prices?

    State owned assets that generations of Kiwis built up to provide infrastructure and a first rate standard of living for us all .

    All the while saying bullshit things like ” it will create a ‘ level playing field’ and introduce competition ” . Like merry hell it did. They knew all it was going to do was create monopoly’s so they could shaft New Zealanders even more.

    And now they have got the colossal gall to suggest beneficiaries should live in a hole in the ground and eat grass to stay alive , and using a dept that was set up as the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff because of the very policy’s these neo liberal arsewipes set up in the first place !!!

    Bloody bastards.

    See , I’m not quite as conciliatory or polite towards treasonous shitter’s.

    And I don’t ever recall treacherous bastards being rewarded with a knighthood , either.

    And you know what I think?… I think this country will never be healed until we reverse neo liberalism in NZ replacing that with a Keynesian based economy COMPLETE WITH ENFORCED REGULATIONS , take back our assets , pay a proper bloody Living Wage to workers, increase tax on all these scumbag shitter multinationals and corporate’s , and finally…

    Root out all these contemptuous treasonous suckers, stand each one of them before our courts , and make them answer for 33 years of treason , treachery , and the subversion of our democracy for their pecuniary gain.

    There.

    And all of that done without even so much as an apology or how do you do.

    And in case you think I’m making this up?

    Read this , and become outraged :

    New Right Fight – Who are the New Right?
    http://www.newrightfight.co.nz/pageA.html

  9. “the price of conforming might be even higher in ill-health, loss of hope, and despair.”

    True.

    Play straight and be forced to use your ladder to get out of the hole and back to health being ‘burned’ dollar by dollar, week on week just to pay the overheads. Eked out until all gone. Reduced to poverty deliberately.

    The multi-shaded gray people – and NO ONE spoke for us – apart from a few -since all this misery began in the 1980s.

    Which includes Mrs Turei among the quiet little voices.

    ” a common-sense test of who is harmed” – we, the beneficiaries who have seen the exits from poverty slammed shut, who go into humiliating places and humiliating situations and see life passing by. More suspicion. Less security. More scorn or indifference. Much more unwarranted interference and inquisition.

    Harm.

    Play it straight – and lose, for a lifetime.

    Mrs Turei had fifteen years to use political influence to either mitigate or eradicate the harms inflicted and today we are much worse off.

    Remember – she is NOT a sole voice at all. Many, many people have been sharing their stories of injustice for several years now. People such as Poto Williams and her team get out there in the electorate to use their influence to help and advocate.

    Perhaps it’s different for a simple list mp. Maybe it’s time that each and every tax-paid MP was assigned to an electorate to work for the people.

    In my view – ongoing harm was done to various cohorts. We’ll live with that, on a pittance, in fear, and under threat. Even under a ‘left’ government. After all – it was their idea in the first place.

  10. MSD are themselves not all that honest, so I have noted:
    https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.wordpress.com/2016/08/16/senior-scientist-and-legal-experts-discredit-evidence-used-by-msd-and-dr-bratt-when-claiming-the-health-benefits-of-work/

    A Senior Scientist revealed a while ago, how MSD and their Principal Health Advisor pushed for policy changes and tried influencing those in the medical profession, by using incorrect, false information:
    “Is the statement that if a person is off work for 70 days the chance of ever getting back to work is 35% justified?”

    https://www.nzma.org.nz/journal/read-the-journal/all-issues/2010-2019/2015/vol-128-no-1425-20-november-2015/6729

    The NZ Medical Journal wrote about it, but he is still in his job, enjoying full support by the Ministry!

    A few years ago they made changes to the Medical Appeals Board processes, that also further disadvantage beneficiaries making appeals against WINZ decisions:
    https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.wordpress.com/2015/03/17/the-medical-appeal-board-how-msd-and-winz-have-secretely-changed-the-process-disadvantaging-beneficiaries/

    https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/the-m-a-b-hearing-process-how-msd-secretly-changed-it-to-further-disadvantage-clients-oficial-post-18-03-15.pdf

    AND MSD Senior Advisors earn handsome salaries by the way, also while denying some sick and disabled support they need:
    https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.wordpress.com/2017/05/01/msd-releases-oia-info-on-dr-bratts-and-other-senior-health-advisors-high-salaries-nearly-4-years-late/

    https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/msd-releases-oia-info-on-health-advisors-salaries-nearly-4-years-late-post-30-04-171.pdf

    The power-balance is very unfair, disadvantaging lowly paid and desperate beneficiaries, fearful of WINZ when having to declare things, MSD wields great power, and they try to extend this all the time, when new welfare reforms are drawn up and presented to Parliament. For instance to so called Social Security Rewrite Bill, still not passed, plans to extend vastly the use of regulations, to change rules for those affected, which gives the welfare departments ever greater power.

    It simply astonishes me that most simply put up with this nasty regime, and so many in our society bash them all the time.

  11. The latest white middle class moralist was Jane Boston in the dompost. Same garbage from a privileged woman who has never been at the bottom of the scrapheap. People like he are a waste of space, judging when they have no experience with the harshness of life.

    1. Talk about a media bubble. They’re all scared shitless they’ll be cut loose from the pack if they don’t conform

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