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  1. There was a joke years ago by Jasper Carrot, I can’t remember the lead up but the punchlines always stuck in my mind – “Now we have a bunch of sharks selling us our water.”

  2. The Three Waters approach was to establish an entity separate from the councils so it could borrow the investment money. The councils having debt caps so need to get the money for investment off their water customers. The useful about the Maori co-governance side – it ticked the WT aspect and also ensured a separation from council for the borrowing purpose.

    The irony is that the Labour policy on Three Waters is the same one National wants in other areas – offshore investment in infrastructure investment but coz of Maori and loss of provincial councils pro business/farmers in water policy.

  3. Hilarious really, our council is talking 18-20% rate increases due to aged, not ageing infrastructure. They got $12m in 3 waters money which has been spent on anything but water but have now missed out on another $30m because they amongst others helped kick 3 waters into touch. Now they like Auckland and all other councils are saying we are fucked and the government needs to change the funding system. Morons!!!!
    Like Seymour and Peters they didn’t realise that cooperation is better than divorce.
    If they sat down with people other than the money grabbers and racists they will achieve far more for the country quicker than being devisive.
    They have lost the idea that Government role is to provide for the people regardless of race or socio economic status but are concentrated on looking after their financiers.

    1. Exactly. You explain it well and anyone with half a brain would get it, reading this.
      But they won’t read it, or they won’t admit it’s true.

      Pathetic info-tainment on TV or SM has made them dumb and disinterested in what’s going on around them.
      Now, water problems will continue and be a lot more expensive to deal with because most people refused to think and see reason with their blind acceptance of what the moaners said.

      They are the ‘perpetually outraged’ as Bryan Cadogan, Clutha District Mayor, called them and childish petulance guides their behaviour.
      Inept councils full of incompetents, wasting money when they have huge problems to deal with, as you say, aged NOT aging infrastructure. It’s well past it’s use-by date and those elected representatives make the worst of decisions.

  4. The neo-liberals want to privatize water. They will attempt to do it via Maori with 3 Waters or via Watercare being loaded up with debt. The John Key decision on Maori interest in water will eventually see Maori being paid a big royalty for water supply to Auckland. Whether the water comes from the Waikato or the dams. After all the Maori King stated “Maori own the rain”.

      1. Your definition of good governance is appalling. All health professions academics and specials as well of the world are appalled at the repealing of the smoke legislation. This is a dictatorship government and are the instigators of separatism. Labour brought the country together.

  5. There are plenty of reasons 3Waters was a stupid idea. Giving control to unelected troughers because of an accident of birth was only one of them.

    1. Well LB I am sure the words “accident of birth” bring the memories of over heard mutterings in your childhood flooding back, but it looks like sticking with the status quo is the choice of Neanderthals.

  6. Was, and still is, N.Z. BUILDING cranes all over our whenua, a sign of a land in prosper, 70, 80, 90, 20, what outside of covid, is their exploit blaim.
    Our new Finance Minister, in Parliament, chanling, Maggie, what a thing, her words will, down fall her.

  7. Water comes down from the sky for exactly nothing. You can capture it from your house gutters into a water tank. Don’t pay for water from the council. Let them shut it off. You don’t need them.

    1. Any allowance for house size & the number of people living in the house, how clean is the roof & gutter, trees & birds perching or nesting in them, what if it is a rental house, unless your house is multi-story with all the water requirements on the bottom floor you will need a pressure pump as well, the condition of the roof & gutter-you only need a few holes to have the occupants buying bottled water to survive. It might work for larger houses with 1 or 2 occupants but it is not a realistic proposal for most. Having tanks to water the garden/lawn is more feasible if they can afford it.

  8. Cue the stupidity.
    So “informed” when focussed on one small piece of a complex puzzle.
    But all ups to you Nitrium, you clearly have a superior understanding of the issue than the rest of us. Well done on stating the
    obvious and making an idiot of
    yourself.
    Keep it up

  9. The three waters policy was not sold properly to the NZ public but now we are faced with double digit rate increases as the majority of local councils have no money. This is not good as the new government is dumping policy without anything at all to replace what is being dumped. People need to speak up. Rates are already expensive our central government needs to help.

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