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  1. The usual recycled bollocks from USA. Australia is a burnt out sand pit apart from the coastal fringes where most of the population lives. So…this is just US Imperialism plonking more kill capacity in an offshore location. They have done this hundreds of times around the world–800 odd offshore bases and facilities, and through proxies, particularly Israel.

    Look up Guam, a very small US territory in the Pacific. It has 3! Army, Navy, Air, US bases and other facilities, and a 10 year missile launch programme is about to start there. A tiny population and the yanks are forcing locals off their land for military purposes.

    There is a global realignment taking place between “North & South” which is not strictly geographical. The yanks and their pals are going to be outnumbered finally. It is kind of appropriate I guess that Japan who they nuked in WWII are now included in the warmongering forums and some Western alliances.

    1. Daniel 11:40-45 tells us all we need to know about the North and South, the skill is in understanding it

  2. In Victorian times the Russians were coming, we built forts. They didn’t come, not because of the forts but because they never were. It was a beat up, pure jingoism. And now TDB to it’s shame wants us to think that the Chinese are coming.

  3. These bases are a direct threat to NZ. We need ballistic missiles based here- China being the obvious provider- to counteract them.

  4. ” In World War Two, Australia was nearly invaded by Japan” I think most historians would agree that Japan’s sole intention with regards to Australia, and for that matter New Zealand, was simply to isolate rather than invade. I mean Japan made some really stupid decisions in World War II, but invading Australia would have been a disaster.

    1. Agree, the distances for logistical support alone are far too great. I read an article explaining why Japan didn’t deploy more of it’s fleet at Guadalcanal. It came down to insufficient bunker oil, the Japanese worked on limited supplies.

      1. It was the Battle of the Coral Sea, that stop any further Japanese advance not Guadalcanal and the resulting Sea Battles. Which were a close run thing for Allies because the Japanese critical mass to press home & Exploit the advantage.

        The main reason for this? Was the Japanese Military Command especially the IJN was still full of old Battleship Men and not those younger Officers like Yamamoto who saw the Aircraft Carriers and the likes of the Combined Fleet.-

        The other reason was the IJN was so fixated on its Pre War Operations Plans, so they missed a number of opportunities to press home the advantage and smash the Allies.

        One such Pre War Plan after the fall of Singers & the Dutch East Indies, was the destruction of the so-called British Far East Fleet which was in name only and its ORBAT consisted a number of elderly short range R Class Battleships, 1 Armoured Aircraft Carrier, HMS Hermes which was just younger to the R Classes, no modern Cruisers and its Escorts Fleet was a Dogs Breakfast.

        Against the wish’s of Yamamoto who was the CinC of Japanese Operations in the SW Pacific, wanted the Combine Fleet for the SW Pacific which he saw correctly the Primary Centre of Gravity not the Pre War Battle Plan for the raid into the Indian Ocean chasing the Phantom Far East Fleet.

        Had the Combined Fleet and the Japanese Carriers had been at the Battle of Coral Sea? It’s very certain that the Japanese would’ve blasted the Allies out of the Water as the Allies only had 2 Carriers vs the 6 or 7 of the Combined Fleet (at the actual Battle of Coral Sea, the Japanese had one Fleet Carrier & one Light Carrier). Which would allowed the Japanese to not only invade PNG/ Port Moresby, but exploit their advantage into the Sth Pacific further isolating Australia and a possible NZ Invasion aka the Japanese Scare which accidentally forced my Grandfather of the Troop Ship bound for M.E up to Fortress Auckland to dig in on the Hibiscus Coast.

        At one Stage the Yanks only had 4 Fleet Carriers in the entire Pacific AO and after Battle of the Coral Sea, 3 Fleet Carriers and had to call on the Brits to see if they could lend one? Which did happen with the deployment of HMS Victorious and rename USS Robin, which acted primarily as a Fighter Carrier due to its superior Radar Fit and Action Control Centre which included the Fighter Intercept Controllers which came in handy at the Battle of Sant Cruz or the 3rd Battle of the Solomon Sea.

        FYI both Coral and the Solomon Seas is what we call vital ground ie it must be held at costs as it controls the vital Sea Lanes into the Sth Pacific and the Sea Lanes Of Communications of NZ, Oz to the US & Panama Canal.

        As you can see the Battle of the Coral Sea and the various Sea Battles around the Solly’s was a very close run thing for the Allies. if the INJ had been able to achieve critical Mass at those Decisive points? It’s likely the Pacific War would extend into at least 1947-1950 at a minimum.

        Plus there is also the 2nd & 3rd Wave Attacks at Pearl Harbor which were never launched because the Commander of the Japanese Carrier Strike Force was an old Battleship Man. But that’s another story to tell later.

    1. That’s always been the case for the RNZN as the Navy is looking to move it Naval Operations out of Auckland to Northland (Marsden Point) for the last couple of decades now, but the various NZG’s & Treasury are shitting their pants at the cost. RNZN Training Depot along with the various Post Graduate Facilities are very likely to stay at Devonport.

      Currently the Fleet Support Ship, the Landing Support Ship & possibly the Dive Support Ship can’t fit into the existing dry dock at Devonport and have to go overseas for Refits like RAN’s Fleet Base East Sydney or Singers.

      With the planned New Fleet that the Navy wants ie 4 Frigates, 2 Landing Platform Docks, Southern Ocean Patrol Vessels & OPV’s? The Navy does need a new Operations Base & Southern Naval Base.

      During WW2 the Marlborough Sounds ie Queen Charlotte Sound was earmark to be massive Naval Base had the Japanese been successful in winning at the Battle of Coral Sea & the 3 Sea Battles in & around the Solly’s. This also resulted the various Airfields around Blenheim being upgraded to handle increase Air movements from the US Carriers likely to use the Naval Base.

      The Queen Charlotte Sound Naval Base still gets mentioned from time to time, but it will never happen unless a major conflict in the Asia Pacific breaks out again.

    2. That’s always been the case for the RNZN as the Navy is looking to move it Naval Operations out of Auckland to Northland (Marsden Point) for the last couple of decades now, but the various NZG’s & Treasury are shitting their pants at the cost. RNZN Training Depot along with the various Post Graduate Facilities are very likely to stay at Devonport.

      Currently the Fleet Support Ship, the Landing Support Ship & possibly the Dive Support Ship can’t fit into the existing dry dock at Devonport and have to go overseas for Refits like RAN’s Fleet Base East Sydney or Singers.

      With the planned New Fleet that the Navy wants ie 4 Frigates, 2 Landing Platform Docks, Southern Ocean Patrol Vessels & OPV’s? The Navy does need a new Operations Base & Southern Naval Base.

      During WW2 the Marlborough Sounds ie Queen Charlotte Sound was earmark to be massive Naval Base had the Japanese been successful in winning at the Battle of Coral Sea & the 3 Sea Battles in & around the Solly’s. This also resulted the various Airfields around Blenheim being upgraded to handle increase Air movements from the US Carriers likely to use the Naval Base.

      The Queen Charlotte Sound Naval Base still gets mentioned from time to time, but it will never happen unless a major conflict in the Asia Pacific breaks out again.

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