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  1. “It is especially concerning when ‘no confidence’ motions are used to challenge decisions that are related to Sino-American competition because it raises the spectre of external influence. ”

    Hilarious. So alien American influence is an unalloyed good, to NATO Ben, but actual human nations getting involved is bad? Amazing

    1. I am curious. Is there a single American person you have met that you liked or are they all Yankee filth?

      1. There are some people who were born in America and have betrayed the American mission to do evil throughout the world who are decent human beings. I wouldn’t slander them as pigs just because they were born in a sty, by calling them Americans.

  2. I really wish this column and Ben were questioning Aotearoas’ role in the world.

    We are no longer a British colony with a massively British population. Our traditional national and ethnic loyalties are gone.

    We are not UKs farm, that ended in 1972.
    Our military allies except for Australia are not our major export markets. China, (this columns resident enemy) is.

    There is a multipolar world emerging that is full of opportunities and dangers for us.

    It does us no favours to not examine our relationship to USA UK and to make China our enemy on their behalf. At the same time it would be equally stupid to place our trust in anybody else unless they demonstrate their good will.

    1. A very perceptive comment. Our knee jerk reaction to cozy up with our traditional security partners does not serve us well. Deep strategic thinking is required now.

      It’s becoming increasingly clear that the US desire to provide the muscle behind the global trading system is starting to fritter away and with the election of Trump it’s entirely possible they could pack their bags and retreat to the western hemisphere. What then becomes of AUKUS!? I suspect it melts away.

      What about taking a Swiss armed neutrality position? Undoubtedly it would probably lead to our ejection from five eyes – whoopty doo! – and massively piss off the Aussies. But assuming we could continue to access CER with Australia I wonder whether this would be the smarter longer term play?

      The other interesting scenario is that I suspect nuclear proliferation is going to expand rapidly in the next twenty years. It’s quite possible to see South Korea, Japan and Australia all pursuing a nuclear deterrent. If this were to happen then it places serious pressure on NZ’s nuclear free position if it decides to be part of an expanded AUKUS alliance alternatively in a neutral scenario would we be exposed by not being part of a defense arrangement with a nuclear umbrella.

      Interesting times….It’s not easy to make the right call here, if we were to have a free trade agreement with the US I suspect there would be no debate, but we don’t and we’re caught between two giants lacking both economic and defense security.

      1. UD, it’s a wonder more bloggers here don’t pick up on the bigger issues. You obviously don’t see with narrow focus which is refreshing. There are so many contradictory things going on you can’t afford a tunnel viewpoint. If only our political class opened their eyes.

    2. It’s simple. NATO Ben wants a job at ASPI shilling for American ‘defence’ contractors. He isn’t capable of being honest.

  3. So why don’t we bring back prohibition so all the criminals who sell drugs will move to alcohol sales instead & other drugs will no longer be readily available? I suspect that other problems would happen but since I stopped using alcohol over 30 years ago I enjoy suggesting to alcohol addicts that their favorite hobby should be outlawed.

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