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  1. Then you get the arseholes that bleat about “don’t tell us how to farm”. Well stop f’ing up rivers and water sources so you can make money. Yes that applies to all industries but somehow people get all sympathetic went it’s farmers because they have been brainwashed into thinking we have to accept this state of affairs. All the threats come out about how big the export earnings are. They never seem to talk about the real costs though. I am sure there are farmers that are much more responsible but there are clearly too many that are not. The (dick) heads at Groundswell need a fence post inserted where the sun don’t shine.

    1. They never seem to talk about the real costs though. I am sure there are farmers that are much more responsible but there are clearly too many that are not. The (dick) heads at Groundswell need a fence post inserted where the sun don’t shine.

      Wheel I agree 100%.

    2. I think the concern is that as events unfold, we forget the earthquake and volcano eruption the terrorism then the pandemic. So as events unfold infront of Luxon we will see how back in the campaign session how Luxon considered New Zealand’s outlook to be somewhat transitory that there was light at the end of the tunnel only to discover its another train headed the other way namely crisses events and how Luxon forgot to price a whole bunch of risk into his tax policy releases.

      And so because Luxon is trying to get back that lost “credibility” many government MPs are adhering to that kind of racist climate denial rhetoric saying go higher and longer with pain onto that mantra but in some ways this higher for longer for example dairy exemptions and accepting new mining oil and gas exploration, this new higher for longer is athis kind of new, modern credibility.”

      I think with the benefit of hindsight that by July this year Luxon will have zero choice buy to acknowledge reality that he has over tightened policy and loosened policy in the wrong places off the back of some dodgy election campaign tax policy and how a recession will follow not long after thanks to not getting enough foreign investment into New Zealand and how Labour and Housing Unions need to organise around the Labour Party particularly Kieran McAnulty. I actually read that bit in Trotters latest blog and followed it up with some economical jargon but for now Luxons view is that he’s doing enough and that the government views everything positively but one more rate hike probably in July the economy will come down, the corona stimulus will wear off and that’s before any weird event takes place but for now Luxon should be thinking he’s doing enough but by July we will see how his costings shape up with expected rate hikes.

      I mean everyone is thinking rate cuts will balance everything out and I can tell you the probability of that happening is very low.

  2. Advertising makes people into wanters of consumer goods, and consuming encourages producers to manufacture goods for sale which uses energy to process materials and transport products, so the energy use consumes fossil fuels, which cause increased atmospheric CO2 concentration, which entraps more solar heat, which increases water evaporation, which help create atmospheric rivers, which are the cause of flooding and landslides, which cause economic loss and crop loses, all affecting our sustainability.

  3. Drove the width of the North Island from Tauranga to new Plymouth a while ago. Outside of the brief canter through Waikato, didn’t see one fenced off creek on any of the farms we passed.

  4. Heil to the Nazi. In any case, outside of the mid pacific and coastal south america, the predicted impacts are of a low correlation (r<.3).

  5. As a Canterbury farmer trying to make hay, I am looking forward to this “hot dry extended drought”. It has been bloody hard making hay in Canterbury the last 5 years which is why silage snd wrapped baleage is all the go. Bugger all hay made now, it’s just not hot and dry enough.

    1. I read that increased global temperatures would result in more growing days at northern latitudes.

      Note, “growing days” is a major part of what determines what crops you can grow. More days = more productivity. Sunlight in the spring is more than enough to grow plants long before the soil has warmed enough to support plant growth(IE thawed). Increase the temperature so the soil thaws a week earlier, that’s 7 growing days. That’s generally enough to adjust what crops you’re planting.

      A couple degrees can indeed open up vast swaths of Canada and Russia for industrial farming of grains such as barley, wheat, and corn. Even the northern sections of the USA. South Dakota becoming the corn factory Nebraska currently is, that kind of thing.

      The problem is that given the relative land masses, it isn’t hard to lose more farm land from rising heat than we gain, globally. Canada and Russia may be local winners, but Africa, Asia, and such are bigger losers.

      I’m sure once we completely cover the New Zealand coast zoomy coast guard gunships, giant anti nazy non nuclear missile pronoun farms and arm a civil defence force citizenry and let all the poor people just die off, New Zealand will be perfectly fiiiine. Apart from the flooding, storms, heat waves and droughts of course.

      The biggest problem is going to come from a fall in the average standard of living combined with population growth (migration) to try and combat low investment and are likley to face significant food production in the future.

      We can either what for Mother Nature to cut our dairy herds in half by about 2030. My timing isn’t great so I just think go early and begin a planned draw down on dairy herds. Just an idea given the facts.

      When I went on school trips to farms during the 80s I never thought that I would be the last generation to experience the life and death nature of agriculture. I’m not trying to give you a hard time I’m just trying to lay out the facts for you. It would be a massive pity if we were also the last generation to experience a nice sit down steak meal on a Friday night.

      We need to divert more resources towards domestic production and the early the better for the reasons already stated. That’ll take a genetic engineering policy and financial innovation policy so that farmers and small to medium business can borrow against there carbon credits while innovating down NZ dairy herds by half and replace it with wind farms or whatever needs built moving forward.

  6. There are plenty of polluters not controlled by farmers. Wild deer goats pigs and Canadian geese all shit and pee and are out of control .Industry and construction cause much of the problem as a byproduct.

    1. FFS Trevor, why not do something about both, not make excuses. As for the deer and Canadian geese you are dreaming if you think they produce anywhere near the volume of waste that the national dairy herd does. In any case shoot the deer ( and those bloody wallabies) then. No one is angling for unsustainable deer herds are they?

    1. Well, the weather is different for the last couple of years but I will get back to you in 100 if it is the climate.
      Anyway, even if it indicates a change in climate, it’s the opposite of the doom scenario of the AGW lunatic fringe.

  7. “The Left must force a bargain with Farmers for strategically essential reasons.
    They are going to feed us when the famine comes.”

    The farmers aren’t going to f all for anyone unless there’s cash, and lots of it.
    When the “famine comes” it will be practically easier and much more efficient to just take the land back and feed ourselves. Relying on right wing meat heads for food security has never worked.

    As an aside, the farmer down my way who had the act signs up – His gate is where I dump all my rubbish now.

    1. You can do whatever you like in NZ anc it will not make one iota of difference to the climate.
      Go and be a climate activist in China.

      1. Climate change is not a one time event it’s accumulative over the past 200 years. How slow are you?

  8. You could burn every forest in NZ and it wouldn’t flicker the needle on climate change
    Virtue signaling our way into 3rd world status only makes sense if you’re ultra rich or looked after by the state.
    Ask south aukland if they want to pay an extra 10% a year to save the planet!

    1. Serious question are you mentally retarded? Dafuq you mean “if we burn everything it wouldn’t flicker?” It’s accumulative you moron. Its built yo over the last 200 years it climate change doesn’t occur in one event. Gronk.

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