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  1. Tasers were meant to be substitutes for lethal force (in the NZ cops pitch to obtain them anyway). In reality they are often used as punishment and compliance devices by more sadistic plods.

    Police executions by firearm have included disturbed people wielding a golf club (Steven Wallace) builders hammers and knives. A few shots to the torso (heart) as per police weapons training soon sorted them out.

    Police culture is still bent, violent, racist and misogynist–that is what needs to change.

  2. How interesting then that NZ passed laws which armed the gangs and the same police association driving the writing of the laws (penalizing the lawful, driving guns underground) wants to arm its members permanently.
    Do you feel safer?

    1. I feel safer with every impediment enacted against gun ownership and gun use by anybody.

      1. The trouble with simplistic fools like you Richard is the laws such people passed, and how they were passed has doomed us to an increase in gun crime.
        Gangs have been legitimized and incentivized and even sponsored with government money, while people wanting to stay within the law and own guns have been threatened, scapegoated, gaslit and now have increased penalties for non compliance while the laws can change at a whim and without notifying gun owners.
        Net result: people discouraged to get licensed and do the right thing. Which you and the rest of Labour think is a great idea.

        The guns don’t evaporate, guess where they end up?
        https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/438377/rise-in-gun-crime-despite-government-clampdown-after-terror-attack

    2. There was no legislation that armed gangs. How have guns been driven underground if everyone is lawful (crims aside I assume you mean)? Have a register and stop “lawful” people on selling to the dodgy. That would help

      1. No Wheel, gun advocates would have you believe that gangs are meeting up with dodgy blokes with thick eastern European accents at sea, and buying second hand shotguns, replica assault rifles and hand guns. Or even more ridiculously, importing them in containers. I mean if you are going to all that trouble, why not import a couple of crates of actual AKs?

        The crux of the argument is 2nd amendment gun rights will make us safer. As a gun owner, I am embarrassed by their piss poor argument.

    3. Can you show me any any examples of gangs here killing an elderly woman or someone having a panic attack?
      Honestly I trust the criminal gangs more than the state sactioned gang that is the police

  3. We will see more of this here if Mark Mitchell is police minister. He believes that cops should be above the law and shoot and taser who they please.

  4. The article on the Australian lady missed the bit about her having a walking frame. I mean what was the actual threat? As for the boy in the dessert it is just all too common in the US . Shoot when completely unnecessary

  5. To be fair imagine being a cop in the US where every 2nd person is armed and nuttier than squirrel shit and / or on drugs.

    1. Exactly.
      Unnecessary shootings by permanently stressed and terrified police will remain a reality in the US as long as USA continues to think that arming their population to the teeth with firearms is a good idea.

      Idiotic is an appropriate description of USA’s approach to firearms.

  6. My husband and I have had hit jobs on us set up by drug dealers in Waipori Falls using the police. The courts are being used by organized crime gangs to do hit jobs on people, and drag lies through court. We are not the only ones dealing with this corruption racket run by the drug dealers from Waipori Falls. Thanks Bryan Cardogan Clutha mayor, we had a meeting with your council years ago about the real problem here, you have a major corruption problem in your district. Plumbers, surveyors, DOC officers and residents are literally attacked and set up on, but nothing to see here…. I see the AGM last weekend which I was trespassed from going to even though I am an owner made the Stuff nz yesterday. I wasn’t even there to call out fraud but looks like the rest of this place has had enough.
    This place needs a fraud investigation at a national level right now!!

  7. You’re a cop. You’re being approached by an angry dementia patient with a kitchen knife. What’s your plan?
    Answers please!

    1. Crack open my fourth red bull of the day. Skull. Set up my bodycam and record for loving memories and a good laugh.

    2. Probably read a good book while it takes that patient 20 minutes to cross the room?

      1. The way that James Cameron’s Artificial Intelligence brain child, Skynet goes rogue is Cyberdine Systems develops an AI, wins a contract to make all American military arsenal unnamed. As soon as it’s switched on it starts infecting every computer on the planet in an effort to monitor what’s going on. Immediately American generals still celebrating AI realise there computers are being hacked not knowing it’s Skynet and tells skynet you’ve got to stop this. And Skynet thinks oh you want me to kill myself.

        That’s the same conundrum we are putting our own cops through when we ask to arm themselves and kill people. These people want legalised torture. I’m not saying that police shouldn’t have access to firearms. All I’m saying is the public has no right at all to fund or defund the police force. Y’know if the cops want to arm themselves as a part of there standard issue uniform then let’s have that debate. If they needed it then there wouldn’t be any arguments they’d get it, “if they needed it.”

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