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  1. It’s worth repeating Andrew Littles free education announcement.

    Generation Z haven’t a clue how good that was. We built everything New Zealand is of the back of that.

    I can almost hear the butt clinching amongst banksters who manage student debt.

    Little can problable now expect level seven early this year, the full spectrum right wing media attack.

  2. Good to see some fresh thinking from Labour. Rethinking the funding of tertiary education is a great start. I hope that Labour will also review their support of archaic fixed weekly hours of paid work required for some major family payments.Why should that parent that needs to retrain because their skills become redundant lose access to the in work tax credit for their children for the months they dont have enough paid work? CPAG challenges Labour to open up a conversation about making Working for Families work in the changed work environment of the 21st century.

  3. Great policy. I am happy!

    After the speech, I rang a friend of mine who is a National party supporter. What made me happier was that even he conceded that this was a good policy and better than giving out tax cuts!

  4. Good to see some fresh thinking from Labour. Rethinking the funding of tertiary education is a great start. I hope that Labour will also review their support of archaic fixed weekly hours of paid work required for some major family payments. Why should that parent that needs to retrain because their skills become redundant lose access to the in work tax credit for their children for the months they dont have enough paid work? CPAG challenges Labour to open up a conversation about making Working for Families work in the changed work environment of the 21st century.

  5. Loud applause to you Andrew, glad someone has the stamina and integrity to stand up to the thugs we have running the country at the moment, and steer this ship away from the storm we are heading into.

  6. I don’t see how a 3 year tertiary education voucher (what this effectively is) addresses the issue of retraining or career changes should you be forced out of your chosen career and need another decent qualification.

    Once the education ration is used up on one’s first career choice you will be in the same position as we currently have.

    This policy does not seem to address the retraining issue despite Little’s claim it does.

    1. The policy is looking to the future, not the past.

      However, in a situation you describe, I think he or she can still avail of the free tertiary education, trade qualification or free training for up to three years if they did not have it before. If they did have it and were working, I suppose they should have saved up for such an eventuality but if they did not save up, I suppose they can still take out student loan as of now.

      What do you say?

      1. The policy is half-way there. It’s a good start.

        My beef is with Little’s oversell. He is the one who brings up the scenario of a changing work environment where one’s training and/or qualifications becomes suddenly worthless. But this 3 year quota of tertiary education doesn’t solve the problem for anyone who finds they need to change or update qualifications already obtained under the system. Rather, it may lock them into existing qualifications and discourages job mobility. It’s no worse than current situation in such cases, but Little shouldn’t pretend that it will.

        Good in many respects, 7 or 8 out of 10.

      2. Clemgeopin

        No argument with your observations.

        To fully restore ability to retrain/gain further qualification a return to the pre 1990 situation is best. Free tertiary study, limited only by poor academic record rather than an arbitrary 3 year ration.

        We tend to forget that our education system was once well admired internationally, the free market dash toward the US system over past 30 years seems blind to the fact that the US scores very poorly on most measures.

  7. The future of work seems to be nothing more than marketing spin for implementing free tertiary education for the very young with the fine print restricting it from anyone else.

    Labour seem to be reverting to type, good at spending other people’s money and useless at increasing the size of the pie.

    1. The only pie you and the other selfish right wingers deserve is the one thrown at your greedy faces.

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