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  1. ..’ There is simply no vision in this budget. There is no promise of a new, fairer, more egalitarian, more equal New Zealand where everyone pays their fair share’…

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    Yes but I also perceive that many commentators about the budget are not looking at the potential long game : that is , if this coming ‘economic depression’ deepens,…govts worldwide will be forced to abandon their unorthodox neo liberal economic settings due to mass civil unrest. Unfortunate but true. They will be FORCED to use old alternatives that worked.

    And the only solutions that worked towards bringing national economy’s back to a healthy footings were the principles expounded by John Maynard Keynes. In every nation that adopted them , it brought them out of the red and into the black on average , in six months.

    Most of Europe and Japan adopted them , and the same results were to be had. The USA rejected them as too simplistic for a year, – then , -adopted them and the same thing happened , – out of the red and into the black in six months. That was what FDR’s New Deal was comprised of, – Keynesian principles. It was NOT FDR’s magnificent little brain who developed those solutions. It was the magnificent brain of Cambridge University’s economics lecturer John Maynard Keynes.

    So ,… moving on ,… patience required,… we have to let these govts flounder and reach for solutions… hard graft for us at present, … but in the long game, power given back to the people by threat of mass civil unrest and economic meltdown.

    I would say , this budget , is but a forerunner of initiatives yet to be rolled out. Again . patience required.

  2. Well when the morons over at Farrars blog have no real issue with the budget other than the lack of a plan and the debt, you know it’s not a great Labour budget. Oh for the return of a proper leftwing budget, not just a National light one.

    1. I think the silence is us dummies slowly realising that perhaps we’ve been had? Can’t decide, don’t want to criticize until understanding dawns upon us. How can we trust the Govt. to follow through when there record so far is very weak. Doesn’t look too flash to me. The way out is GROWTH and AUSTERITY. Bail out the big boys and stuff all for the struggling. Neo Lib may strengthen. MHO.

  3. Whosoever expected something different from Jacinda and Grant was dreaming.

  4. If Labour & Greens aren’t cutting it time for some new blood parties in coming election. Ever since demise of Alliance has been a need for an economic left party to the left of Labour. Hopefully TOP with Gareth gone gets some traction, also possibility of a comeback for Social Credit Party …but how about an actual Socialist Party. If all the extra-Labour leftists got shit together and put a socialist alternative forward maybe they’ll start getting some traction.

  5. But many of these companies didn’t actually need the money or were low on capital reserves because they have done everything they can to enrich their shareholders above all else over the last decade. The government could have simply demanded that they be given 33% of the shares (voting or non-voting) as a condition of the aid to ensure that taxpayers benefited from the recovery.

    – That’s about the most sensible paragraph I’ve read from a left-winger in a decade.

    I find it as unbelievable and appalling as you do that this government is propping up the wealthy to keep businesses that should be viable anyway if not with these shareholders then sold and with others. Nowhere in that process does that require a slush fund of cash to prop up the current wealthy.

    Who are laughing.

  6. The biggest chunk of money is actually being given to businesses as a subsidy for wages to keep people employed.

    The previous government left us a legacy of ‘ghost houses’, thousands of unused houses at a time when thousands of people were homeless. I am wondering if a legacy of this govt will be a plague of ‘ghost businesses’, possibly thousands of businesses that serve no real purpose, at a time when we will be needing all hands on deck to address Climate Change and a rapidly degrading and increasingly drought-ridden Aotearoa.

  7. Totally agree that more could be done, and I think a total overhaul of welfare and taxation is required in NZ. However, those are big changes to the social contract, and I think Labour should go into the election with a vision and specific policies to debate, not announce them at a Covid-recovery budget.

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