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  1. A excellent and true article by John Minto ,,,,

    For the history and geopolitics of the 40plus year war on Afghanistan, you will learn more from this video than any of our mainstream media with their bullshit spin ,,,,

    Womans rights and their position in society has nothing to do with any of it ,,,

    Inside US Afghanistan pullout, CIA opium ratline, pipeline conflict, new cold war
    https://youtu.be/QiF3TQZSxhs?t=71

  2. It can be put simply. Follow the money.
    In 1914 Britain was the market for just about all everything we produced.
    If Britain lost the war we lost our market and we would have no money.
    1939 same thing.
    1950 Korea. The USA was now the new world power and promised us a share of their market. We sent troops to Korea. We sold wool to the USA.
    1965 Vietnam same thing. We sent troops. The USA bought NZ beef.
    2001 Afghanistan – The USA said one day they might give us a Free Trade Agreement( in our fucking dreams).
    Forget all the crap about ‘the bond of loyalty that binds the empire’ ‘collective security from terrorism”. It all comes down to – ‘there might be some cash in it for us
    PS left out South African War and New Zealand wars but the same principle applies.

  3. Agree 100%. Thanks for writing about it. It’s astounding really, the carnage and waste of money, a lot of which went back into the western war machine.

  4. Given we would all like there to be improvement in the lives of women in many nations around the world if we could, and an action (Trump and Biden policy leaving Afghanistan) does the opposite is something to note.

    Will Biden ever do as much to help women in the wider world, than he has to harm women of Afghanistan in completing Trump’s withdrawal policy?

  5. For all that, at last the war has ended. We can all now hope that Afghanistan will get some peace. Whatever you may think about the Taliban, they always stood on the side of the poor and were always the only consistent resistance to foreign imperial invasion. That they lack any left or liberal credentials is more to do with these elements first acquiescing to and collaborating with the brutal Soviet invasion and then doing the same with the NATO invasion. Kudos to John for protesting both. The best history and analysis I have seen from a bottom up perspective is here:

    https://annebonnypirate.org/2021/08/17/afghanistan-the-end-of-the-occupation/#_ftnref2

  6. Baffling
    This is most concerning.
    Not for the first time, I agree with you John (although there are some matters on which we may still be well apart).
    For example, where you pen: “The sheer scale of the failure in Afghanistan is now seeing extraordinary attempts to rewrite history. Reading media reports now one could be easily convinced the reason for the invasion was to liberate women and girls from religious tyranny. Rubbish.”

    Absolutely agree.
    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2021/08/19/guest-blog-ross-meurant-from-saladin-1187-to-taliban-2021/

    Ah yes, well I remember being a student in classes tutored by Helen and Phil at Auckland university – seventies – when my perception of both was that the were very anti american involvement in Vietnam.

    What caused this change in these two?

    Umm. Well, I suppose some will also wonder what the hell happened to Meurant that the views he expresses now seem diametrically opposite to the perception of him?

    Yep. Once upon a time I believed in Clint Eastwood etc.
    Baffling

  7. What has Helen done for World Peace apart from backing the USA and UK war merchants.

    They get into power then are told what to do. Norman Kirk stood fast and had principle, David Lange to a much lesser extent but he ushered in the greatest Neo-liberal assault in the Western World, a mess that was dumped on us from the Mont Perelin Society and the treasonous duglarse, Prebble and the gang all well rewarded in the biggest corruption NZ had suffered up to that time.

    1. The nuclear free policy / neoliberal revolution combo was not an accident. A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down.
      D J S

  8. I remember at the time of the US and NZ invasion of Afghanistan lots of people receiving spam emails about Afghan girls not receiving an education under the Taliban. I always wondered what organisation sent those softening up of public support propaganda emails. Then we never heard about girls in Afghanistan again until last week! But consider this question, would an Afghan mother prefer her daughter to stay in the house her whole life rather than lose a son or daughter to a Soviet or an American bomb?

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