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  1. So much info, so much insight. Well put, Frank.

    The bit about special voting is particularly useful to counter misinformation on “wasted voting”. I’ll be using that info when convincing others to vote Green this year.

    You also raise a good point why the Nats are so fearful of Labour’s tax plan. Once people realise what a wider tax base can buy us and our children, there’ll be no going back.

  2. Richard Prebble. Hypocrite. I can’t be bothered writing any more on that odiouis little twerp.

    Interesting insight on why the Nats are hysterical over Labour’s tax plans. If NZers did get a taste of Scandinavian style social democracy, that would be the end of neo-liberalism once and for all. This is something that cannot have escaped the attention of the Right.

  3. Frank I think the Greenies have always been sitting around 7-8%. I also think certain people have been scaremongering. And I also believe the Greens can get more possibly around 10-12% because that is the margin of error difference and let remember they always do well in the special votes. Now I’m hoping we see hem on election night get 10-12%.
    Now in on the Labs I think they have been sitting around 37-40% since Jacinda came in but I think they can get 44-47% I base this on the trends and my intuition. The youth vote has increased and this cohort I believe is in favour of Greens and Labs. I look forward to casting my vote on the day I really enjoy voting on the day and I have been politically active calling my whanau and making sure they get their young whanau out to vote for change. My whanau know who to vote for I don’t have to tell them it will be one of the above either way its a win win for us and a win for a much needed change.

  4. In that interview Winston identified the ills of the neoliberal settlement and what he would do about them far more clearly and far more unequivocally than any other politician from any other party is doing.
    Are we all interested in reversing the neoliberal regime ? Or are we more interested in promoting a favourite personality of a favourite party irrespective of their stated policies? It seems like the latter is the case.
    The rubbishing of Prebble’s historic activities is deserved, rubbishing of Winston not so much, but the history of neither has any bearing on the veracity of the quoted statements made here. They were both quite correct in what they said about the taxation issue , and it didn’t need the Nats to attack it to make it a mistake.
    It seems that it was originally intended that the working group would do it’s stuff this coming term and offer the resultant resolution to the
    electorate at the next election. Wisely they have reverted to that plan and probably no great harm done by what seems to have been Jacinda’s indiscretion. Considering the enormous pressure commenters have put her under by anticipating transformational policies from labour now that she has been shoved into the leadership role , that she could not and cannot possibly deliver,some such indiscretion was almost inevitable. She is a very able and appealing individual but she is just a human like the rest of us, not some magical being incapable of error. It is conceivable that the unrealisable expectations that have been placed on her have done both she and the labour party’s prospects in this election considerable damage.
    D J S

  5. The Greens should announce they will push for George Rozvany to be part of the tax review ….. They need to quickly raise awareness and illuminate the simple truth.

    Being that We do not need new or more taxes ….. just collection of what is due from the richest company s and people in the world. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-11/corporate-tax-minimisation-costs-governments-1-trillion/7587092

    Harmful regulations created our tax segregation and revenue black hole…. Good regulations can fix it.

    Almost like a vast right wing conspiracy …..there has been a uniformity in the building of networks which has allowed enormous corrupt money flows …… with corresponding harms of homelessness and exploitation of ordinary citizens everywhere …

    Its more than just corporate tax evasion …. they have also helped money laundering.

    New Zealand …. “a contentious exemption of professional services firms – mostly lawyers, accountants and real estate agents – from being covered by anti-money laundering laws passed in 2009.” http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11706741

    Austrailia …“Australia’s anti-money laundering law does not cover real estate agents, lawyers and accountants, despite promises when the law was enacted in 2006 that the legislation would be widened.” http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-13/should-australias-anti-money-laundering-laws-be-extended/8703354

    Canada ……. “An agency report suggested there is a close relationship between money laundering in real estate and the services provided by lawyers, such as placing wire transfers in legal trusts and creating investment vehicles that can shield true ownership of property.” http://vancouversun.com/storyline/ottawa-will-attempt-to-close-money-laundering-loophole

    U.s.a Funny money’
    In Miami, secretive buyers often purchase expensive homes using opaque legal entities such as offshore companies, trusts and limited liability corporations.
    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/real-estate-news/article69248462.html#storylink=cpy

    Britain …”Foreign investors are using illicit wealth to buy up property in luxury developments across London, out-pricing locals, according to a new anti-corruption report.”… “”This has resulted in an oversupply of prime property whilst Londoners are in desperate need of affordable homes,” https://www.dezeen.com/2017/04/25/overseas-investors-london-housing-market-crisis-faulty-towers-report-property-transparency-international-uk/

    Its time to reverse the race to the bottom National have us on ……it’s a harmful world wide failure.

  6. “In that interview Winston identified the ills of the neoliberal settlement and what he would do about them far more clearly and far more unequivocally than any other politician from any other party is doing.”

    Winston claimed in that interview that cutting corporate taxes would lead to wage rises. This is classic neo-liberalism, and shown to be totally wrong by the experience of the last 30+ years. Winston doesn’t understand neo-liberalism (to be fair neither does Jacinda), he just knows its unpopular, and he will gain votes by railing against it, even while he advocates for its “trickle-down” policies.

    1. When I was a child my father formed a little company under which he operated the accounts of his farm.
      My grandfather who had business experience in England could not understand that a company in NZ paid no tax. But that is how it was. That was not a neoliberal era. To get into the hands of individuals, company revenue has to be distributed as wages , director’s fees or dividends, and taxed accordingly. So the less tax that is taken out of the company , the more revenue is available to pay out in wages which will in turn be taxed at the appropriate level.
      As long as the company is domestic, not multinational, there is no need for any company tax at all. No one can spend company money on themselves without paying tax, it just allows the company to grow.
      D J S

      1. `DJS ….When you were a child your father must have been a tax dodging fairy tale spinner ….

        Company taxes have been in existance in New Zealand for over 100 years ….

        ” Company taxes

        The greatest impact of higher taxes was on companies. During the 1920s and 1930s New Zealand taxed companies directly at higher rates than many other countries” https://www.teara.govt.nz/en/taxes/page-3

        Otherwise Your logic is as weak as your truth ….. dribble down Act economic theory

        1. Some points taken.
          I was working off a childhood memory, but it may have been a special concession to rural enterprises as referred briefly here.https://www.nbr.co.nz/comment/paul-goldsmith/how-taxes-stymied-pro-business-culture.
          However though I stand by my argument that as long as it is a wholly NZ owned company so no dividends etc. go offshore, any money a company has to pay in company taxes reduces what it can pay in wages (or dividends of corse) thats a simple equation.
          I assure you I am no advocate for neoliberal/ trickle-down/ Act type theory. But I am an advocate for trying to see clearly and objectively.
          Cheers D J S

          1. Well now that your a grown-up I would expect you to see the gaping hole in your logic …. and what is happening in the real world …..

            That is that limited liability companies and trusts Are buying assets like houses and land …….

            The company buys the house ….

            If we had zero tax for local companies as you propose …. then a worker trying to buy a house with their taxed income …… would be at a distinct disadvantage against the company owner who could buy the house through their company …..

            Actually to take your logic further ….. we should tax companies higher than personal income….. so that they pay more in wages …. which would in turn reduce their company profitability and taxes.

            But New Zealand needs to fix its broken tax system … not gimmicks.

  7. “Is it about time that all public polling was banned once early voting begins?”

    It shocks me that this isn’t already the case. I advocate banning poll for at least a couple of months before election day. That way the media has to report on policies, not polls, and people are more likely to vote for the party who policies most closely represents their view, rather than voting “strategically” for larger parties that don’t, but are sure to get in.

  8. Frank this is an excellent piece, one of your best.

    Seems to me the arch hypocrite Richard Prebble is a tad agitated about a capital gains tax being introduced. Perhaps he knows he will be up there front of the line, having to cough up on unearned income on his multiple properties!

  9. HELP FRANK,

    We have bigger issues now to deal with see this!!!!!
    “The Government took away democracy from the people of Canterbury and in return gave us more big irrigation schemes, more cows, and more polluted rivers,”

    We say the Government have proven themselves are corrupt and have subjerted our whole democracy.

    MP Jian Wang is clearly a chinese spy operative that was sent to NZ to infltrate our Government as his family is actually operating “Wang Enterprises” a digital intellegence company operating a spy network in the USA also as a “digital intellegence contractor” and was found to be falsifying US elections since 2000.

    MP Jian Wang is now holding several NZ Government portfolios that he has access to all our intellegence information now to destabilise our election process.

    The police should arrest this spy who was operating formerly in China as a contract educator for chinese Government spies before he left china to infiltrate our government in our country.

    National Government has allowed our country to be placed in jeopardy by this corrupt Government, and oppoostioon political parties & Greenpeace should now call for this chinese Government spy to be arrested now, as the election may be already hacked by this man and his association with his chinese government.

    Here below are the facts and US federal court testimony given by a senior computer contractor Eugene (Clint) Curtis about the activity of Yang Enterprises election fraud.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7R1_ixtlyc

    Clint Curtis was paid by Wang Enterprises to hack into the US elections process and change the result of the elections under administration by Wang Enterprises.

    Also here are comments about Jian Wang.

    DSpare30
    13 September 2017 at 8:30 pm
    This from Bradbury was interesting (usual condiment recommendations apply):
    I met Jian Yang once in his role as the head of politics at Auckland University when I was applying for post graduate study and I was always surprised in my 20 minute interview with him that he knew more about who I was and my political activism than anyone else on campus. He asked me lots of questions that had bugger all to do with the study I wanted and far more focused on who I knew and what they were doing.
    The allegation that he might be a Chinese spy doesn’t surprise me at all.
    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2017/09/13/so-nationals-blue-dragons-might-be-red-dragons-how-national-are-utterly-compromised-to-china/

    Subject: My investigative work on Jian Yang. The Standard https://thestandard.org.nz/national-mp-jian-yang-was-investigated-by-sis-for-possible-ties-to-chinese-government/#comment-1384919

    https://thestandard.org.nz/national-mp-jian-yang-was-investigated-by-sis-for-possible-ties-to-chinese-government/#comment-1384919

    I woke up to realise now that this NZ MP Jian Yang may be family of Yang Enterprises in USA who are snarled up in a voting fraud hacking case and is he trying this here now?
    See these clips and the testomony abour ‘Yang Enterprises.
    Fishy stuff may be connected?

    Eugene Curtis – Yang Enterprises election fraud.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7R1_ixtlyc

    NZ MP Jian Yang – is he related to this family Yang Enterprises computer intelligence company carrying out voting fraud in USA?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7R1_ixtlyc

    http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/florida_election_stolen.html

    (2017/05/15 17:15) The Newest Breaking News … for global hacking waveWashington PostPutin Blames … of the young developer Jian-Yang’s octopus …

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