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  1. Another feeble rant from a feeble government .After all the theatricals of the last couple of weeks Winston spouted the bull shit we knew was coming from the two feral parties .The weak as piss PM could not even stand up and promote himself to the position of leader of the country instead bending over again while Winston and David take turns to ream him .Typical CEO pass the buck and let the minions do the so called work but throw them under the bus if it goes tits up .Except in this case he is heading under the bus and will make way for another puss ball by years end .

  2. A slight correction- Winston isn’t ‘ignoring’ the atrocities that zionists love to commit. He’s endorsing them.

    Winston knows zionists poison Palestinian wells for the love of it. He loves it when they do it.
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-10-14/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/documents-confirm-israelis-poisoned-arab-wells-in-1948/00000183-d2b2-d8cc-afc7-fefed64d0000

    Winston knows ‘israel’ is a haven for pedophiles and rapists. He knows they consider rape their highest value, and always have, from 1948 on. He gets off when they rape little Palestinian girls.
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2016-03-22/ty-article/.premium/israel-becoming-a-refuge-for-pedophiles/0000017f-e11d-df7c-a5ff-e37f5a370000
    https://www.trtworld.com/article/18198981
    https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/8/9/everything-is-legitimate-israeli-leaders-defend-soldiers-accused-of-rape

    1. Probably the stupidest piece of shit I have ever read on this blog. Your comment brings you shame.

    2. You make it sound like its all about Winston. It’s not. Sure, he’s the minister but he’s just the front man, the guy in the suit. Surely the decision comes from a bit higher.

      1. that just makes it worse. our Deputy PM’s are cucks and our PM is a sky-daddy rent-boy.

  3. Why would NZ expect to worry about the human rights of the Palastinian people when our own human rights at home are below any thresh hold of being decent .From 1800 we have persecuted Maori daily and as the enquiry into abuse in care found we are no better than a rabid dog if we choose to be that way if we think no one is watching .
    This COC is continuing to ramp up the persecution of Maori at every chance they can and stoop to invent a new reason every week .
    So NO I am not surprised at all with Winstons show pony spout .The whole trip has been about Winston .

  4. The actions of this so-called coalition government now renders them as Vile, Weak, Cowardly, Inept, Corrupt and Incompetent.

    I do NOT RECOGNISE THE Coalition government here in NZ. They now have Blood on their Hands because of their link to America, Donald Trump and Israel.

    They have turned their backs on humanity and it makes me think that if they(the CoC)have so easily turned their backs on others then what is stopping them from turning their backs on us here in NZ if it hasn’t already happened in some areas eg Health, Education, Social Welfare, Housing????!!!

    Now lets remember the actions of this government on Election Day and ensure they will Never Ever be in Parliament or in Government Ever Again .

    1. Cowards who took two weeks to announce what they had already decided. The pretence that the government was still considering it’s stance is typical of the usual weak Luxon leadership. Regardless of the decision, they could have at least had the courage to state it and own it once it was decided.

    2. It takes courage to go against the trend. Winston made a lot of sense.
      I am against Israel’s actions but also against Hamas and their reign of terror . Israel must be stopped from more settlements but an acknowledgement of Hamas will not do that.

      1. ‘It takes courage to go against the trend.’
        As Chloe Swarbrick when she asked government MPs to grow a spine and Trevor moaned and grizzled about the little green upstart answering back to her betters.
        ‘ Hamas and their reign of terror’ Ah! Hamas -armed and supported by Israel to curb other Palestinian groups( bit like the way the British armed the Malay Communists to fight the Japanese and the USA armed the Taliban to fight the Soviets).
        These attack dogs have a habit of turning on their owners so maybe it is time for colonisers to turn to negotiations.

      2. Absolutely correct Trevor. Never been prouder of a NZ government than I am right now. You all wanted an independent foreign policy, well now you have one. Well done Winston and co.

  5. I think it is a reasonable position to take regarding the “statehood” of Palestine
    Who would we be recognizing? Currently
    Hamas would seem to be in charge in Gaza and should we recognize their authority.
    Where our foreign policy fails is in our refusal to totally condemn Israel and in our failure to take all the diplomatic and economic actions that we can against them

    1. Hamas is the democratically elected government of Palestine. They have the right to rule in the ‘West Bank’, Gaza, and 1948 Palestine. They have the right to defend their people against zionist terrorists, and arrest home invaders trespassing on their land.

    2. Why wouldn’t we recognise them a legitimately elected government – that does not compromise with Israel like the Palestinian authority does, no wonder the yanks and israel want them in charge.

  6. We should declare a national Day of Shame again like back in 91 with apartheid. What Winston did does not represent the majoririty of New Zealanders views

    1. It certainly doesn’t just as he did not represent us when he voted against civil unions, same sex marriage, prostitution law reform and numerous other progressive bills.

  7. Selwyn, you are much too kind to Winston Peters, and by extension to New Zealand. Peters has not kicked the can down the road. He has squarely aligned New Zealand with the Trump/Netanyahu axis. This is par for the course for the New Zealand state which supported every colonialist evil, from British rule in Africa, the invasion of Palestine and dispossession of its inhabitants, French colonisation of IndoChina, Indonesian conquest of Timor l’este, apartheid in South Africa, and the US invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.
    From its inception the Colony/Dominion/Realm of New Zealand has been an agent of evil. It was founded in genocide and it has gone on to either actively or tacitly support colonialist genocides around the world.
    As Tim Selwyn puts it “New Zealand is a shabby colony of European settlers who grossly overrate their relevance and consequently has quite a shabby and pitiful international record – not the bright moral one the average smug New Zealander likes to think”.
    The “average smug New Zealander” may not be the “average New Zealander”. More the average middle class European New Zealander, and to be fair, New Zealanders themselves never have been and never can be in control of the New Zealand state which is a colonialist construct which is anti-democratic to the core.
    The problem is not with “the current New Zealand government”. It is with the Colony/Dominion/Realm of New Zealand as a whole and our only solution is to completely eradicate the colonialist regime.
    Winston Peters is not “kicking the can down the road”. He is desperately trying to entrench the evils of a corrupt colonial regime. Neither can tangata motu afford to kick the can down the road. The Realm must be destroyed.

  8. Cowardly US arse kissing. That’s all it is. I don’t know if the South African government ended apartheid because of diplomatic isolation or because they finally came round to the idea that a long-term solution was necessary, but diplomatic isolation certainly can’t hurt.

    1. It’s so typical of NAct to hitch themselves to the wrong side of history.
      Here they’re choosing to suck harder on the USA tittie just as the failing US Empire is flailing about in impotent rage because the geopolitical power base is passing to China, BRICS and the South and there is nothing they can do to stop it..

      The goddam truth of the matter: New Zealand is still USA’s bitch.
      This government makes me ashamed for the nation.

  9. Some history:Semite: a member of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs. Khzars are not semitic.
    The phrase has been captured by Israeli politics as an insult that rejects the actions of Israel and its Government.

    In 1895, Theodor Herzl, the founder of the Zionist movement, asserted: “We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it any employment in our own country … expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly.”

    1897 Palestine was 1 million people 5% Jewish. Peaceful co-existence.

    1916 when the UK and Germany were about to call the war off Zionists told the UK to pause and allow Jewry to change US opinion and get the USA into the war and overcome Germany which they did. That resulted in the Balfour Declaration: (1917) …National home for Jewish people … nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities … Brought into the war the US help overcame the Germans.
    Britain given League of Nations mandate to develop Palestine as a National home.

    The WW I saw Britain occupying Palestine from the Ottoman Empire, where it set up Mandatory Palestine under the auspices of the League of Nations.

    Grenades in cafes: first used by Zionists against Palestinians in Jerusalem on 17th March 1937. Delayed-action, electrically timed mines in crowded marketplaces: first used by Zionists against Palestinians in Haifa on 6th July 1938.

    WW II saw the holocaust when 3 to 4 millions Jews killed by the fascist German military along with others. The figure of 6 million is an exaggeration.

    1946 Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel. Then used a postal bomb on UK War Office. Use of hostages as a means of putting pressure on a government: first used by the Zionists against the British in Tel Aviv on 18th June 1946. Booby-trapped suitcases: first used by the Zionists against the British Embassy in Rome on 13th October 1946. Booby-trapped cars in civilian areas: first used by the Zionists against the British in Sarafand (east of Jaffa) on 5th December 1946.

    Increased Jewish immigration led to inter-communal conflict between Jews and Palestinian Arabs, which escalated into a civil war in 1947 after a proposed partitioning by the United Nations was rejected by the Palestinians and other Arab nations.

    March 1948 Deir Yassin massacre. Village in Palestine attacked by the Irgun and Lehi gangs killing and expelling Arab villagers, Was supported by the Haganah and Palmach. In 1949 the village was resettled by Israelis, becoming part of Givat Shaul.

    Count Folke Bernadette (Swede) UN mediator… Assassinated Sept 1948 by Zionist group Lehi.

    1954 Lavon Affair in Egypt. False-flag bombing operation in Cairo by zionists got caught. Israeli Minister Lavon had to carry the can. The first aircraft hijacking was carried out by Israel in 1954 against a Syrian civilian airliner.

    Operation Plumbat was an Israeli covert operation in 1968 to steal yellowcake (processed uranium ore) to support the Israeli nuclear weapons effort. Mossed operation used fake business to buy ship ‘Scheersberg A’ to transport yellowcake ostensibly to Genoa as a catalyst. Transhipped mid Mediterranean to Israeli ship allowing the U to go to Dimona for a Nuclear bomb construction.

    In 1973, suspected Mossad operative Dan Ert (Dan Ærbel) was arrested in Norway, alleged to have helped assassinate Ahmed Bouchikhi, a waiter, mistaken for one of the Palestinian terrorists who had killed eleven Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympic games in Munich. Ert recounted the story whilst imprisoned as a way of proving to Norwegians that he was a Mossad operative.
    The story seemed more credible once it was found that Ert had been listed as president of the Liberian shipping company used to purchase Scheersberg A.

    An embargo prevented Israel taking delivery of gunboats built in Cherberg France. Operatives from Israel stole the gunboats and took off for Israel. The Scheersberg A was used to resupply fuel to the gunboats to get them to Israel.

    June 1967 Six day war. USS Liberty spying destroyer in international waters bombed and shot by Israeli MIGs killing 34 US sailors. Covered up by the USA.

    March 2003 US peace activist Rachel Corrie was guarding a Palestine Doctors home from demolition. Crushed to death by IDF bulldozer.

    There is continued removing Palestinians from their land and occupied and settlement buildings constructed .

    2004; Mossed agents in NZ tried to get NZ passports using the identity of a man with cerebral palsy.

    Zionists are liars, abusers, killers, racists, complainers, genocidal criminals.
    They cannot be trusted in any way.

    1. Exactly, which is why the two-state solution is a non-starter. All of historic Palestine must be returned to the Palestinians, and Israel either completely demolished, or dismantled and relocated to the USA, the only other country barbaric enough to house it.

  10. “We think a future generation when Israeli and Palestinian political leadership is an asset, not a liability…”

    If this is the logic for not recognising Palestinian statehood, it must equally be a logic that requires the withdrawal of recognition of Israeli statehood. That would at least be an intellectually consistent position that one could respect, albeit one likely to cause a firestorm of reaction from the USA.

    Winston is not aware of the full implications of what he is saying. Or perhaps he is – and the point here is to avoid any retaliation by the USA in the area of trade that may further weaken the NZ economy and doom Luxon’s failed “growth, growth, growth” fantasy to even further ignominy.

  11. Winstone and the CoC want money from the zionist so they can get back in power at the next election. When we see who funds their campaign it’s people and groups that benefit directly from the CoCs policies. We need to get rid of them and as mentioned above ensure they never get back in power again. Winston is drunk.on power the old coot needs to go as does Mr sicko seemore and his motley lot need to go and the sooner the
    better. They are kicking working class NZers ,Maori and women in the guts,selling us down the tiolet. If they get in sgain we will see maasive privatistion hence why board room want them in power they will be wanting our few remaining assets and government contracts for their businesses.

  12. Just need to look at who is funding the Atlas group and Peters support base along with those who support National and you can understand why this pathetic immoral decision was made. Nothing to do with humanity, purely about money and fear of Trump.
    Really worried about our democracy now. The degradation of our civil rights is speeding up. Look at the gerrymandering electoral reform, the retrospective law changing and the attacks on media and critics of the government. Shane Jones has said he is going full Trumpian, I would suggest he has willing allies in Key, Seymour, Peters, Goldsmith, Standford Bishop, van Velden Mitchell etc.
    We know that the NZ First and ACT caucuses are total sychophants and will follow the leader like a dog sniffing out raw meat. Most of the Nats are like minded but are too scared to admit it just yet. I have seen it suggested that Standford is tempted to join ACT but will not do so until very close to election time so that she doesn’t have to resign and force a by election.
    This would make a mockery of our so called democracy but would demonstrate the ethical values many of our parliamentarians hold.

  13. Normalising genocide is complicity in genocide.

    When the whole world is trying to distance themselves from the genocide in Gaza, Winston Peters is trying to normalise genocide.

    Winston Peters needs to ask himself this question:

    Why are all these countries, even some of the countries that are aiding Israel to commit this genocide, like the UK, trying to distance themselves from it?

    They realise that a day of reckoning is surely coming.

    They don’t want to be caught in that reckoning, they they all want to be able to do what Jim Bolger did.

    Jim Bolger was a member of the Muldoon cabinent during that government’s complicity in supporting South African apartheid during the Springbok tour of New Zealand. Despite being a member of the Muldoon cabinet that ordered the full force of the state to crush protests aginst the sporting representatives of the arpartheid regime, Bolger later tried to claim that he was always against apartheid and in particular diplomatic and sporting links with that regime.

    When that day of reckoning comes, as it surely will, world leaders will point to their recognition of the State of Palestine as proof that they weren’t fully complicit in helping Israel commit genocide.

    Winston Peters and Christopher Luxon won’t even have that feeble excuse.

  14. Winston, gold card care, how machiavellian, your age cowtow, to these what you know about our gold card.

  15. Dont for get the west bank is also under attack by these Israeli criminals .So while we are all going on thinking the Palastinian state is just Gazza it is not and there are already 6 million refugees living else where in the world .

  16. Winston used to be a steadier hand at foreign policy – but NZ is not presently led by enlightened men.

    The subtext is that they are desperate and corrupt – “Cash us up, oh Sons of Israel” is what the coalition means – a more realistic strategy, it must be admitted, than following the raving lunacy of a Treasury that just precipitated Willis into crashing the economy. Just not very realistic – nor morally tenable.

    The corrupt are always the last to do the right thing.

  17. Today only one comment on the news regarding, the Government, slowly purchasing outside their present holding of Power shares, and a Pom, in the only place you will hear such back word, forward thinking, from a trade Union caring authority.
    POWER, BACK TO THE PEOPLE, as it used to be, power ownership back again to our one owned power grids, the people.

  18. Hamas, a alone cell of mind alterd by religious life and death passing. Are not all religious wash like that, life and death battle for their religious belief.
    This Hamas, think all nut case washed nutters, no, their Masters, are among all other Muslim care lands, minority not ever are Hamas.
    Like Capitalism, a wash religion that open holds those whoever dare walk on their power wealth, fuck up lives in other oppressive ways.
    Got this new deel world changing agree, hamas, we will turn not only Gaza into the las Vegas Isreil.

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