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  1. I find the attempt to get money by asking if the article “resonated” with me a bit creepy to be honest… From day one, I decide to wait until they showed me they were going to become a proper news agency, or just another bunch of suckholes… Option B won…

  2. Agree with the second half. There is nothing brave about unquestioning subservience to the current mainstream bullying narrative tho.

    Isn’t Vance an independent? Her column regarding government lack of transparency was a very rare very cutting piece of actual journalism for stuff.

    Generally though, do we need another non critical media outlet to parrot government spun press releases and cross post the same woke articles with newsroom and RNZ?
    No we don’t. I think the horse has bolted for NZ media, remove government assistance, its money wasted.
    If there are enough woke cultists that want to support them great, if not, fail like they deserve.

  3. The quizzes aren’t too bad, Bomber’s critique of stuff is correct. Except for the fact Rosemary McLeod is feminist wind bag.

    1. I used to like the crosswords, and the Dom-Post was ever so much better for cleaning windows than the freebie community newspapers which have a less porous surface for absorbing winter’s condensation, but they’ll just have to do, and once in a while I score a wrong-delivery paper tossed along the street sealed in a plastic bag, and read it and find that somebody dear to me has died again, and for this reason alone, it may be advisable to stuff the trite Stuff scribblers, because I want to keep my friends alive as long as poss and not to find them dying in dying old craft forms.

    2. Control denied – “Rosemary McLeod is a feminist windbag. “ Dunno why you’re trying to attribute gender issues to wind bags. Doesn’t stand to reason. But good luck with the quizzes anyway.

  4. Totally agree Martyn, I switched off stuff at the start of this year after following it religiously from its inception. I found it was dumbed down and often written by dummies. Its one long virtue signal with an unearned air of superiority and I actually got a bit offended by some of the stuff that they were writing. So I deep sixed it. I hang here now and with Gordon and Chris when I need food for thought. Otherwise its a basket of foreign media for me. Quite partial to Al Jazeera which despite bias from time to time, really delivers some interesting stuff.

  5. Stuff would do well to allow readers to comment in the column like they used to.
    Readers need to have a say.

  6. I suppose we could go back to the good old days where the dominionpost ignored the National Govt scandals and continually trumpeted our ‘rock star’ economy and charged people the price of their rag. It has been a long, long time since I actually purchased a newspaper because I can read most newspapers and media outlets views of the world on line for free. Complaining about free content seems a little churlish to me. On an average day, I read the crap spouted by Stuff, The Herald, Newshub, TVNZ, ZB, Magic, The standard, Kiwiblog, the Press. the ODT, TDB, CNN, Fox, BBC, The Globe and Mail, The Age and the Independent (cos I like their daily cartoon). They all have their particular slant on reporting (some more than others) and that is the way it has always been. Every so often I get outraged about a particular story and how it is presented, but can’t remember ever being outraged as much as Martyn about the ‘woke’. I struggle with how this outrage parallels with much of what I hear from the right. I’m not a fan of ‘punch with Judy’ style toadyism so I only give those stories a cursory read. Fanboy stories of a Labour Govt don’t sell advertising, so I always try to believe that it is a given that the editorial staff will slant things towards scandal to improve clicks, ratings and therefore cost to advertise. Stuff have done their sums and must believe there is a gap in the market for their new style. Talking to the kids of today, they may be right.

  7. Sinead Boucher comes to NZ as child, spends her early working career in Europe, before coming back to NZ with family to have children. Although she has little journalist qualifications gets gifted stuff for $1 without any liability for leases.

    It’s wonderful for those who have dual citizenship to make use of every opportunity, but less and less of the unfortunate victims and effects of mass globalisation are not published as all the editors around the world seem to fall into a similar vein of career development. Yep globalism might be good for some, but everybody flying around and milking the welfare systems and saying how wonderful all this is, will eventually destroy the concept.

    It would be better for NZ journalism, if Stuff had been gifted to someone who is actually more of a journalist rather than someone doing a 6 month journalism course, becoming an editor with content so insipid it’s like a soup of propaganda gruel from Granny (and no wonder sold for $1 from OZ parent company) https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/the-new-zealand-rose-who-became-a-media-mogul-1.4327660

    Stuff thus continues it’s woke feast celebrating more of the same woke content and enabling more of the same lack of journalism in the mainstream. Even when neoliberalism doesn’t work it still finds ways to continue to feed and monopolise it’s message that actually isn’t even commercial anymore judging by the $1 price tag!

  8. Stuff have become very biased. They did a puff piece on Laureen Hubbard is rising above the abuse she receives, (no I don’t support anyone being abused).

    Then when articles from overseas started to surface that female wrestlers were being told not to speak up about transgender, the article would appear on stuff for all of five nminutes, then disappear. So woke beyond belief!

  9. Stuff is not a major problem in the wider view really–when it seems like thousands of NZ people may have been persuaded to not get COVID vaccinations thanks to crazy shit spread on social media.

    Any media company under private ownership is going to cause trouble for working class people at some stage because their job is to deliver to shareholders, not fight for socialism!. Being into middle class aspirational and identity issues is surely fucking small beer when compared to the crimes perpetrated in the 19th and 20th centuries by most NZ media, like the NZ Herald the NZ Truth.

    Stuff’s new owner at least had the decency and courage to offer some apologies in regard to class bias and to Māori people in particular. Ethical capitalism is not possible in my view but good on her for trying.

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