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  1. The two independents daily in New Zealand are both going from strength to strength – Otago Daily Times and Wairarapa Times Age – which suggests the problem is not that print media is going out of fashion but that corporate ownership is killing newspapers

  2. Yeah – well..if Stuff cares about democracy it know the answers. Keep journalists. If its only profits – threaten.

    As a former journalist – i know about threats. They usually came from bullies, tyrants and people trying to hide their action or planned actions.

  3. Yes, Esoteric Pineapples you are so right.

    Corporate ownership of the media is all about having a conduit through which it can push its own agenda rather than letting the real news, such as corporate corruption and deceit and the oppression of employees by doing everything to keep them on low wages and then complaining when the Government increases the minimum wage. Ouch they say, we can’t have this so what do we do? Oh, we know, lets push the lie that business confidence is dropping and lets get rid of this Government and bring back our friends who will protect us from the masses demanding a decent wage.

  4. I agree that secure funding for rigorous journalism is important. But I’m not sure what to make of this ‘get off my lawn’ comment:

    > “It’s like Stuff keep threatening to gut journalism while yelling ‘what a shame that will be for democracy’ and democracy is too busy sharing a white supremacist explanation for why 9/11 was an inside job that includes aliens and fluoridation in water on Facebook and just mumbles over its shoulder, ‘well off you go then’.”

    Perhaps the most important phrase uttered during the US mid-term elections was Beto O’Rourke’s comment that “reasonable people can disagree on this issue”. That applies to 9/11 truth, water fluoridation, and even little green man (and/or little green women and/or ETs of non-binary gender identity).

    The truth may be out there, as the X Files famously claimed. But If there’s one thing we can be certain of in this age of information overload, it’s that not a single one of us knows the final, absolute truth about everything. Especially mysterious and controversial issues whose waters are potentially being muddied by the PR efforts of well-funded vested interests. A daily dose of humble pie is required if you want to avoid becoming a useful idiot serving as a mouthpiece for one or more of same.

  5. NZ Journalism is already gutted, nothing to lose.

    We only get fed propaganda by NZ MSM from the likes of Hoskins, Garner and Gower who would be lucky to have three brain cells between the three of them ?

  6. NZ Journalism is already gutted, nothing to lose.

    We only get fed propaganda by NZ MSM from the likes of Hoskins, Garner and Gower who would be lucky to have three brain cells between the three of them ?

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