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  1. “The intelligence reporting GCSB receives from its international Signals intelligence partners is what those agencies collect themselves based on their own priorities.” so sayeth DJ Kitt

    So there’s a direct link between GCSB/SIS etc.and Signals,

    https://app.companiesoffice.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/1593276

    and the WMO (world met office)
    https://www.google.com/search?q=ian+lisk+wmo&rlz=1C5CHFA_enNZ704NZ709&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwinmMnDzsb2AhVQzzgGHemjBzoQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1440&bih=733&dpr=2#imgrc=Xk75f3uWVlmL_M

    and hko :https://www.hkonline.com.bd/

    strange ok

  2. In all groups there are those that are frightened of those that are different . We can see this with covid and how it has divided the unity that was in the Maori population and in the population as a whole the have and have not are getting further apart by the day

  3. It’s window dressing – the guts of it is that this jerk was issued with a gun licence within a few weeks of his arrival in the country, without his references being interviewed or his parents contacted, at a time when simple renewals were taking six months or more to process. The licence was issued out of Waikato when he lived in Dunedin. Documentation showed that within 6 weeks of his arrival he had his licence and the cops had approved is request for bulk purchase of ammunition. It stinks of corruption.

    All buried in confidentiality by the Royal Commission. Just when we needed a real investigative journalist, they all look the other way.

    1. Andrew “ It stinks of corruption”. Nah. It stinks of over-worked under-funded coppers. If you think that it was corruption, then say why.

      1. Not corruption, just incompetence. But overworked normally means longer processing times. It was the speed that the murderous bastard was given a licence, when he had not long arrived in NZ, that was hard to fathom. By the standards of the time, he shouldn’t have got that licence at all, let alone so fast.

  4. We have learned that as time goes by we have a less tolerant, less relaxed, nastier citizenry than in earlier times.
    Or maybe we have the same lacks and surpluses but those qualities are far more visible.

    1. The government has increaseed stresses on the NZ people by accepting even welcoming large numbers of investors and others who have put pressure on our systems and replaced NZs opportunities in many fields. People are upset but also annoyed.The migrants may have paid an arm and a leg to get here and are aggrieved that they are so unpopular. They may be filling highly skilled positions or doing valuable work much needed. It is time to start limiting numbers and treating migrants fairly also then citizens, and we could then increase the refugee numbers from countries where often we have fought alongside the USA instigators. Simple, get some balance.

      1. Where do we get more nurses from and doctors? And crop harvesters and truck drivers and workers for hospitality and builders and other tradespeople?
        We keep hearing about shortages for the workforce so is it time to start limiting numbers? But increase the refugee numbers?
        And where does that fit in with putting pressure on our systems and replacing opportunities for NZers in many fields?

  5. Come on Martin the state and it servants server the right.

    How dear you ask it to call out one of it’s own.

    They have left wingers to bash, and bugger up their ability to earn a living you know, you can’t be critical of that. It may impede them in their duty if you point out their failings.

  6. I’ll tell you what we’ve learnt
    That we’re all fucking idiot facebook hashtag warriors that have sourced out our critical thinking to algorithms and manipulative social media
    Slava Ukraini that Jacinda empathetically uttered on national TV is the rallying cry of the Far right movement and the Azov Battallion that Brent Tarrant the mosque murderer shares ideology with and visited in Ukraine. He had the insignia of the Azov Battallion on his sleeve
    That its become the slogan for Ukraine is a disgrrace.It is the slogan of second world war nazi collaborators who perpetrated atrocities and massacres on Jews and Poles

      1. It’s the rallying cry of all those who oppose wars of conquest. And the person who made it so is Vladimir Putin. Got a problem with that take it up with him.

        1. And we’ll just turn a blind eye to the fact the Banderas terrorists massacred jews and poles for ethnic cleansing
          Fuck that

  7. What I have learned is that Jacinda Ardern probably had as much concern for the Muslims killed in Christchurch as John Key did for the dead ‘man-slaughtered’ Pike River miners ,,,,, with both gaining a undeserved bunp in popularity at the time ,,,,,

    Subsequent actions by both showed them to be fake concern trolls…..

    …. Key by allowing money to buy your way out of serious criminal charges with possible ‘life sentence’ punishment.

    Jacinda by glorifying a group which has been part of a world-wide effort supporting the Civil war in Ukraine since 2014 ,,, when extremist volunteers were carrying the fight to those districts and people standing up against the usa’s and bio-hazerd Nulands coup regime.
    From 2019 — https://newproducts.com/the-long-term-help-of-the-charity-fund-nova-gromada-and-its-head-konstantin-nevesenko-to-the-military-in-the-east-of-ukraine-gets-commended/

    https://www.facebook.com/Ukrainian-Gromada-of-Wellington-141045912609677/ — You can note that this group calling for ‘peace’ describes Crimea, where over 90% of the population rejected being under Nuland & co’s puppet Govt ,,, as being ” Temporary occupation of Crimea by Russia” ,,, which sounds like something Stephen Bandera would say*.

    Others have recognized the hypocrisy regarding support, training and arming of Nazis ,,,, thankfully for Jacinda twitter/big tech are censoring the stark truth ,,,, https://youtu.be/UvfWjoXIIys?t=9563 helping devious pricks like LP at the The Neo-Standard pretending that the Wolfsangel and Schwarze Sonne are not Nazi icons.

    Its all such a unhappy coincidence that so many ukraine fighters and volunteers sport the christchurch killers taste in insignias ,,,, and NZ would never release the christchurch terrorist from prison to go join the fight ,,,, as Zelensky did with jail inmates in Ukraine.

      1. Cheers Francesca and you jogged my memory regarding ,,, ‘ Stehen Bandera statues ukraine ‘ ,,,,which despite pro-Nato algorithms should still display some ripper images.

        Glory to the Hero’s ,,,,,

        Zelensky was massively elected on a Pro-peace platform ,,,, the real threats of death and total lack of support from the usa for peace ,,,, sabotaged the will of the vast majority of Ukraine people who did not want the present escalation in Nulands/Porenshenko/s dirty war.

        ‘Sabotaging peace — Glory to Ukraine’

          1. cheers SPC ,,,, and I will say that your non rose tinted view and Realpolitik assessment of what peace will probably look or end up like,,, is the most realistic take on things that I’ve seen written by posters on this site ,,, you posted this up in another thread here at TDB.

            Arguments about the OUN oaths of ‘glory and hero’s’ ,,,, are a distasteful side issue compared with where we/the west must arrive at for peace to be achieved.

            More of your hard nosed realism needs to replace war jingoism in the minds of ‘the people’ ,,,,, if we are to start manufacturing consent for peace.

    1. And you are just justifying Putin’s bombing of Ukrainian civilians in their homes and hospitals ..

    1. Good lord. Did Meng Foon really say that the government has allowed hate to fester by not introducing hate speech laws ? Golly I hate people who make atrocious accusations without offering one iota of evidence.

  8. Police and security need more targeted, practical resources and enforcement of existing laws.

    We were failed because security officers, did not carry out the requirements of their jobs correctly.

    AKA Tarrent was allowed a gun license for semi automatic weapons, new to NZ and without any real references.

    The police and gun requirements were already there, but not carried out correctly.

    Our immigration allows people to come to NZ and live here without any oversight. Tarrent came to NZ to plan a terrorist attack presumably because our conditions are so good for criminal activity here. Criminals are undetected and when others complain about behaviour, nobody investigates properly.

    Existing laws carried out better was the solution, not more half baked laws that have made everything worse. AKA we already had the mall terror attack where another person who had recently arrived in NZ, was deemed so dangerous they have 2 armed defenders following them. Now people are gunned down and attacked on the streets.

    NZ government seem more interested in protecting violent offenders and keeping them in NZ to offend further, than preventing them coming to NZ or stopping people in NZ who seem to be interested in destabilising our democracy and operating criminal enterprises here.

  9. The most significant action the Government took was to spend over $120 million on compensation for firearms from licenced owners, after they hurtled through law changes. And firearms crime has largely been unaffected (https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/438377/rise-in-gun-crime-despite-government-clampdown-after-terror-attack)

    The hard stuff, that Martin alludes to, could really have done with that $120 mill. But this Govt likes the ‘reacting for appearance’ approach, not the ‘preparing for effectiveness’ way, cos that is hard work and lacks media glamour.

    Such a wasted opportunity

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