National – 32%
Labour – 30.5%
Greens – 12%
NZF – 9.5%
ACT – 8%
Māori Party – down 3 points to 2.5%
Slow clap to Doc, Eru and Mariameno, their failed leadership coup exposed massive issues of stability inside the Māori Party.
By putting their egos before the waka they have done exactly what TDB warned about, they have provided political ammunition to the Right and empowered Sean Plunkett, David Seymour, Don Brash and Mike Hosking and the massive 3 point slump only proves this.
John Tamihere’s strategic brilliance managed to get the Māori Party vote to soar, Eru, Doc and Mariameno’s poorly conceived coup against Debbie and Rawiri has seen those gains erased.
Eru, Doc and Mariameno have put their egos before the waka and weaponised Tikanga into pure temple politics.
When the Uber Woke faction inside the Greens launched their attempted coup and gerrymandered voting to advance the identity politics clique of Elizabeth Kerekere they did so because they argued Marama wasn’t woke enough!
NOT WOKE ENOUGH!
The danger with pure temple acolytes is that the glow in their eyes once they taste power becomes unquenchable.
The same cultural dynamic has taken hold of the Māori Party. The Kapa-Kingi and Doc clique mistook the success of the protests against ACTs terrible Treaty Principles Referendum as their success rather than a collective success.
That power went to their heads and they have weaponized Tikanga to insinuate that Debbie and Rawiri aren’t Tikanga enough, hence they need to take over the Party.
I have been fortunate enough as a Pakeha to be around many Māori groups and I have witnessed first hand the power and beauty of Tikanga as an amazing bond of solidarity that can lift an organisation to do incredible things, but I’ve also seen Tikanga used by those who weaponise it as a means of control over discourse and direction the way Woke Identitarians have used intersectionalism to take control of an organisation rather than build it.
Pure temple politics is the kiss of death to politics in NZ and now we know Doc and Kapa-Kingi were attempting a leadership challenge, it helps explain what has actually been going on behind the scenes of te Pati Māori.
The reset by the leadership was important because for the first time te Pati Māori were saying they were going to move beyond being a group of activists and were serious about being a stable partner in getting rid of this terrible, terrible Government.
What Doc, Eru and Mariameno have achieved by putting their ambitions before the Party is hand political ammunition to David Seymour, Don Brash, Sean Plunkett, Mike Hosking, ACT, NZF and National.
John Tamihere has many sins, but it has been his leadership that has built te Pati Māori into what it is and it was only his executive skills that could see them turn from a Party of activists into a stable component of any Government that could replace this terrible Government.
The issues of overspending and abusing Parliamentary staff raised against the Kapa-Kingi’s are legitimate and this would never have happened if Eru hadn’t toxically attacked the leadership and if Doc’s weird ‘Māori only’ sectarianism hadn’t emerged.
That they are combining to sack the Leadership is utter madness and toxic egos out of control.
Māori voters who gave te Pati Māori their trust and vote should be incandescent with rage at this type of behaviour by Doc, Eru and Mariameno.
If they are not forced to back down and shelve their ambitions, Labour will have no choice but to rule the Māori Party out which hands the election to the NZ First, unless voters in the Māori electorates return the seats back to Labour.
What a needlessly destructive and damaging thing to attempt just for power. Māori Party voters should be very, very, very angry at this faction as the Government laughs all the way to the ballot box.
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The 4.5% buffer for the right can be clawed back with good policies from Labour and they need to show the mess that the right has created in their campaigning and lead up to it. It looks like some of the Māori voters in this poll shifted to the Greens, but it is early days still anything can happen. The economy needs to improve not just GDP people need good secure sustainable jobs and homes to improve their lives. We are very divided now like many other countries and we need to empower the poor and working-class people to vote so we can get rid of the COC lot.
Yes the Greens are slowly but surely growing a staunch base.
Two elections from now and they will be hitting 20%.
I believe those voting Green are not swing voters .Any growth would be from young new voters who are happy to say they would vote Green but fail to vote . The biggest problem for aGreens is their voters are not very forgiving if they cannot fulfill their promised in all areas because they are dreamers where as Labour and National are more accepting of not fulfilling promises
I see nepotisim on both sides of the Maori party dispute .Maybe both families need to sling their hook and bugger off .
There’s a lot more to this poll than TPM drop in support.
The number of people who believe the country is heading in the wrong direction increase 4% to 53.5% yet Labour was up only 2% the Greens down 1.5% and TPM down 3%.
This shows the left has much work to do to convince a despondent electorate that it can do a better job than the disastrous CuC we have screwing us over now.
Labour needs to roll out a comprehensive policy plan now showing why kiwis will be better off with them in power and worse off if CuCs are re-elected.
This incremental rolling out of weak as piss policy is guaranteed to see another term of CuC tyranny.
Wow, I still fail to understand how Labour can be polling under National. This is shocking in this current toxic political atmosphere. Very sorry for TPM struggle fest but wake up Labour. Hopefully the success of Mamdani is a wake up call to all Left parties that yes policies that address the real social issues are the ones matter to the voting public, not incremental yukyuk. Yay the Greens.
Why are you surprised after Labour’s weak tax change policy it shows they have no real heart in real change,the type of change mooted on this site by most of the contributors.
The left have a weak main party,a fanatical support party and a disorganized back up party.They make the Coalition look good
Labour are not polling under National just ask Talbot Mills
Fuck off you dick with your ‘failed understanding’ you stupid Greenie. See, we can all play your game.
Not sure you quality to comment with such a ridiculous name KH.
Your comment is borish.
In the meantime, the Aussies banks are registering billion-dollar profits and acts nasty regulatory standard bills is creeping close to being passed let’s hope we get rid of them at our next election along with this bill/act. Oh! and our Police are running around issuing false tickets to thousands of NZers.
We need the government, whoever they are, to appoint KiwiBank as the governments banker – but I believe the governments banker needs to hold a AAA rating….
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Fuck off you dick with your ‘witty’ sarcasm. HoHr
What, another BS Morgan Poll, ditto ditto, except for the Maori rating! To me it looks liked they simply copy and paste from the last one and then make the changes they believe suit. I know we aren’t that stupid so wish they would stop treating us as if we are! It’s hard to equate their results, especially the National one, bearing in mind all the criticisms of this appalling CoC circulating out there. The Maori party will pick up again, but they have to get rid of the vile, evil three who clearly have a different agenda and unbelievable egos. They are hell-bent on destroying the Maori party, and its loyal followers, out of spite and extreme arrogance. So very sad all round.
Eru would be a way better person to be running the party .Just look at how he mobalized 100k people for the hikoi earlier this year .If he can doo that imagine what he could do for TPM .
TPM need to ask why they are only polling at 2.5% when they are 20% of the population .Clearly they are doing the wrong thing .Rawiri is not the person to be the front and center as his agenda puts us off .He is all ways agressive and dictatorial and a smart arse .If you want voters to get on board you need to ask what they want and need not dictate to them what you think they want or need .
Its time for a progressive socialist alternative to the captured compromised self interested so called left in this country. The current alternative group will never deliver the kind of policies now being campaigned on in the UK and New York. 30.5 % with some Green tacked on is simply ineffective and counter productive.
Given that both Labour and National’s support consists largely of people who will vote Labour or National regardless, it does indicate that the level of disillusionment with our present set of parliamentary parties is very high. That’s also underlined by the reality that a significant number of people no longer vote. In the 2020 general election, 655,094 enrolled electors did not cast a vote, representing 18.46% of the electoral roll. In the 2023 general election, the number of non-voters rose to 829,396, equivalent to 22.49% of those enrolled. They have simply given up on a representative democracy that fails to give voice to their concerns.
For over four decades people have been denied an alternative to neoliberalism and its looking increasingly likely we will be denied an alternative at the 2025 general election as well. It seems clear that Labour leader Chris Hipkins has no intention of abandoning centrism and overturning the neoliberal applecart.
https://nzagainstthecurrent.blogspot.com/2025/08/can-new-left-wing-party-emerge-in-new.html
Chris Hipkins says that Labour will begin rolling out policy closer to the election, but all signs already suggest that Labour has no intention of abandoning the centrism that lost it the last election. Hipkins dismissal of the Green Party’s alternative budget as ‘a huge spend up’ and ‘unrealistic’ does not suggest that Labour or the Green’s are on the same page as far as economic policy is concerned.
What Hipkins seems unable to grasp is that it is conservative economics that have brought New Zealand to the position it is today.
https://nzagainstthecurrent.blogspot.com/2025/07/when-times-demand-real-change-labour-is.html