TDB warned you – Heavy handed Police actions will create a backlash

Just like TDB warned you, here we go…

Arrests, criticism as police descend on gang tangi in Tauranga

Critics said the police response was excessive.

In one video, a local kuia can be heard shouting at police: “How disgraceful is that? Go back up the bloody road!”

One woman told 1News she felt “anger” and “hurt” after officers – some from as far as Christchurch – came to town for the funeral.

“They are imprisoning us here because we’re in grief.”

Matapihi resident Areena Smith, who lived next to the urupa, said she felt “uncomfortable”.

“Being in my community, we don’t often have a police presence like this,” she said.

Bay of Plenty District Commander Superintendent Tim Anderson said it was about “keeping everyone safe, including those gang members themselves”.

“When we’re stopping vehicles and finding sawn-off shotguns, that’s a recipe for disaster.”

Tikanga expert Rhonda Tibble said the police crackdown wasn’t the way to go, and Māori kawa – customs and protocol – needed better consideration.

…of course the Police behaviour was heavy handed and designed to harass because this Government needs conflict with the Gangs to gloss over the economic failure.

Their thinking is, ‘sure you are bleeding out economically, but you will feel all that anger towards da gangs sated because we are giving them te bash’.

That’s their thinking and so it comes to pass.

This is the true danger of this Government, they are so ideologically driven they don’t care their foaming mouthed promises of revenge during the election will make things worse…

Government ignores official advice gang crackdown could backfire, increase membership

The government’s gang crackdown could backfire, driving up rates of gang membership, increasing domestic violence and making it harder to exit gangs, according to expert advice from justice officials.

The government is expected to today introduce legislation banning gang patches in public, limiting freedom of association and imposing harsher sentences for crimes, regardless of whether the crime is linked to being in a gang.

…when even Judith Collins tells you the Gang Patch Ban goes against Bill of Rights you know we are in trouble…

Gang patch ban inconsistent with rights — Attorney-General

The Government’s move to prohibit gang patches in public places would be inconsistent with the rights to expression, association and peaceful assembly, a report by the Attorney-General Judith Collins has found.

The Government’s proposed anti-gang laws would ban gang patches in public places and give police extra powers to stop gang members congregating.

Just after 3pm today, parliamentary urgency was accorded for the introduction and select committee referral of the Bill, along with two others. It is now being debated in the House.

In a report also tabled in Parliament this afternoon, Collins’ report on the Gangs Legislation Amendment Bill said it had tested the bill against the Bill of Rights.

“I conclude the proposed prohibition on the display of gang insignia in public places is inconsistent with the rights to freedom of expression, association and peaceful assembly in the Bill of Rights Act.”

…when even Damien Grant can see Gang Patch Bans won’t work…

‘The state should not tell anyone what to wear,’ writes Damien Grant

My position is more fundamental; the state should not be telling some of the worst members of our society what to wear because the state should not tell anyone what to wear.

..when two right wing idealogical vultures like Damien and Judith agree on State over reach, you fucking know the State has over reached!

Here’s my fear with National’s crackdown on Gangs.

The first is that they won’t work.

Banning Patches in public, using dispersion powers, implementing non association orders and increased powers for warrantless searches all sound tough to a public who are frightened and tired and resentful of feeling intimidated but won’t do a bloody thing in terms of curtailing Gangs because it fundamentally misses why there has been a jump in gangs  and gang violence in the first place.

The Royal Inquiry into historic abuse by the State found 80% of gang members were abused in State Care.

Want to stop gang membership? Stop abusing kids in state care!

When you start abusing the power of the State in the manner we are all cheering for against the Gangs you risk radicalising criminals and that is the last thing you want to do in any country!

Look at how the radicalisation of the Parliament Lawn Protestors has metastasized into the dangerous cocktail of resentment that has become.

Imagine putting those pressures on violent organised criminals.

Of course organised crime needs to be challenged at all times by the Police, but what we are doing here is implementing bumper sticker policy that will only cause counter productive outcomes as opposed to smarter Policing.

Hand on heart I don’t think National MPs could tell you what is the difference between the Mongrel Mob, Mongols, Head Hunters, Black Power or Comancheros and that’s deeply concerning because they all have completely different reasons for existence and attempting to tackle the most glaringly apparent elements of gangs with laws that breach human rights will only radicalize those communities.

The problem we have right now with gangs is the unprecedented forced deportation of the 501 criminal elements from Australia who have unleashed a tsunami of violent gang take overs because they are prepared to use a level of violence and sophistication far in advance  of the domestic gangs.

These 501 syndicates are using their contacts with South American Cartels to import a purer, cheaper Meth and it is this turf war for the Meth trade that is shaping the current violence.

Police gaining powers to harass and intimidate the poorest members of this crime pyramid with powers that breach human rights will only radicalise that community.

Look at this.

…what Simeon Brown never points out is that the $2.75million given to the Mongrel Mob came from the proceeds of crime fund! It wasn’t taxpayer money, it was the proceeds of crime that was paying for drug rehabilitation programmes because that is how you move the community Gangs like Black Power and Mongrel Mob away from crime.

This is the exact type of programmes you want to run.

Where the Gang Intelligence should be focused is on the 501 syndicates because their connection to South American Cartels is legitimately destabilising and dangerous.

Nothing National are suggesting has any connection to reality beyond ZB talking points.

Back to the Gang Patches ban in public and heavy handed tactics at Tangi.

When the next big Gang tangi occurs after the patch ban, Luxon will demand the Police go in and take the patches which will require a heavily armed Police response that will immediately deteriorate into a shoot out.

We don’t need harder policing, we need smarter policing because this cavalcade of tough on crime short on facts crap is going to cause far more damaging blowback.

The NZ Police right now are burning through any good will they had with those communities, heavy handed tactics will create righteous grievance.

It’s like National are doing this on purpose.

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