NZDF will train with Israeli Defence Force in 2 weeks time! Our Mana will be stained with dishonour! 

By
Martyn Bradbury
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It is outrageous in the extreme that the NZ Defence Force will train with the Israeli Defence Force on June 26th as part of the US-led (RIMPAC) naval drills!

Our Military’s  honour and mana is stained by rubbing shoulders with an Army that is currently accused of genocide and conducting a real time ethnic cleansing war crime.

It’s like playing paintball with the Russian Army while they are invading the Ukraine.

No one in NZ is even aware that the NZDF will be training with the IDF in 2 weeks time because no one in NZ knows what RIMPAC is or why we are involved.

We have 2 weeks to demand this Government pull out of training alongside an army willing to massacre 274 Palestinians to rescue 4 hostages.

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That’s not eye for an eye, that’s an eye for a nose, a chin, half the face, most of the jaw and all 4 limbs!

Let me be clear – there’s no excuse for October 7th, but equally there can be no defence for a disproportionate response that sees 37 000 dead, 10 000 under the rubble and almost 85 000 injured.

If we train alongside the IDF we condone their war crime and we are stained with their dishonour.

48 COMMENTS

  1. RIMPAC, practicing for war.
    Rival imperialists are itching for a military showdown.
    Ever since President Kennedy made his famous remarks that the taste of victory in a nuclear war will be like ashes in our mouths, military leaders have been exploring ways to fight a global war without going nuclear.
    All those who try to convince us that RIMPAC and other similar practice exercises for the coming war are about deterrence will pretend to act surprised when the war they are preparing for actually does break out.

  2. Unacceptable in all senses. The IDF butchers are dirty filthy bastards that a decent human being would not want to be anywhere near. Their mangled American accents, arrogance and rising kill and destruction tallies rank them right up there with Nazis and other fascists of history.

  4. I’m pretty sure Russia is liberating the Donbass (Russian) people from the fascist Ukraine regime, a regime who has the same indifference to civilian life as the Israelis. Ergo the surrounding of the Russian homeland by these rabid hyenas and terrorism of it’s population is similar to the struggle of the Palestinians.

  5. AoNz dabbled with our military killing civilians ( and telling lies about it ) in Afghanistan ….

    Now we are going ‘full monty’ and learning from the most immoral baby butchers and civilian starvers on our planet ,,,,

    Presumably Israel will give us advanced tips on how to ‘rape the truth’ ( just like they do ) as well ….

  6. “It’s like playing paintball with the Russian Army while they are invading the Ukraine.”

    I don’t recall Russia carrying out a genocide in Ukraine. In fact, they have made a point of not harming civilians as much as possible, whereas the Ukranian army to this day continues to shell civilians in the Donbas.

  8. I put down Israel as a future failed state that in a few short years will be the pariah of the Middle east. No longer will the West have a foothold in the Middle east causing mayhem and destruction in the name of the almighty US dollar. When that happens the US will be flooded with copious amount of debt and inflation they have foisted on the rest of the world because they are/were the global currency. The chickens will come home to roost.
    The biggest mistake or calculated policy of Israel after the Holocaust was to enable Generational trauma as a weapon against Palestinians and other people.
    Israeli children are indoctrinated at an early stage that people hate the Jews and they have effectively set up a military state with an inflated sense of superiority, for every superior being there is an inferior one.
    It’s now beyond critical mass where Israel sees itself as above international law or has any sense of morality and human decency.
    (Antisemitism they cry, anyone?)
    It’s interesting how the West offers tacit approval by its explicit silence after the recent massacre where as over 1000 Palestinians where either killed or wounded to save just 4 Israeli Hostages lives, apparently the slogan “All lives matter” is conditional if you are Israeli or Palestinian.
    With regards to the NZDF training with the IDF it’s hardly surprising, the far right NZ government knows whats coming as they are fully complicit in the massacres in Gaza, as someone who follows the ebbs and flows of history I’m convince we are in the early stages of a new World war, the bankers need it to wipe out the 33 trillion in US debt and to try to stop the new multi-polar world emerging.
    If you want to know what the future holds imagine a world flipped on its axis and sent back 500 years, the east is rising and the west is now fast becoming morally and financially bankrupt, soon there will be societal unrest it’s already building in NZ one only has to look at the snap elections called in the West to see the far right and anti immigration parties are rising because people are hurting. By my count over the last month alone there has been the death of the Iranian President, the death of a African vice president, the assassination attempt on a east European President and the brutal assault on a European Politician. Franz Ferdinand anyone?

  9. The significance of the Israeli involvement in RIMPAC is that Israel sets the precedent on how war is fought.

    Does New Zealand want to be involved in wars in which civilian deaths are not counted or considered important?

    Does New Zealand want to fight wars in which the destruction of civilian housing, water treatment plants, electricity infrastructure are considered legitimate military targets?

    Does the NZDF accept withholding the means of existence from millions of civilians an acceptable tactic of warfare?

  10. I for one have no problem whatsoever with the NZDF training alongside the IDF – just as I completely support how Israel have responded to the Hamas terrorist attacks on October 7th.
    If Hamas and the Gazans who voted for Hamas to administer them are serious about ending the war they should release those hostages that are still alive for a start (but they won’t because when it comes down it they clearly see the civilian population in Gaza as little more than useful pawns who know no better).

    • The Israelis have said that they will continue their war against the Palestinians in Gaza even if Hamas release all the prisoners.

    • Oh dear James read the history, understand why Hamas did this, 75 years of occupation. What about the Palestinians being arrested daily without charge in the West Bank, does this concern you,do you think for the hostages taken it is necessary to murder 34,000 people a figure growing every day.

      Everyone knows that both on the West Bank and in Gaza if a vote was held tomorrow that Hamas would get in in both places because the Palestinian Authority is known to be corrupt often working for Israel and frankly beating up Palestinians. From the river to the sea Palestine will be free.

      • I am well aware of the history of the region from the Israelite kingdom’s of Israel and Judah period through to the modern day (with a particular interest in the Crusader States period) but thanks for the patronizing tone all the same.

  11. Coming to a regional hemisphere near you.

    The IDF involvement in military exercises with other Western powers is normalising the kind of warfare the IDF engage in.

    In the coming war between China and the Western powers in the Pacific region the attacks on civilians and civilian infrastructure will be the norm.

    “Resist the Normalisation of Evil” Israeli Reporter Amira Hass

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIILcoPSNQs

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