We are living with Right Wing myths and culture war revenge fantasies as social policy.
Science doesn’t matter because ‘Right Wing Feelings’ now dominate all legislation.
Charter Schools DON’T work. They don’t. They take the best students from Public Education and hide the true cost of that. Charter Schools are merely a trojan horse to attack public education, it’s as simple as that.
Military Boot Camps don’t work, but voters frightened by TV Media Crime Porn coverage don’t give a fuck if they don’t work. They want to make the teenage Māori kid who scares the bejesus out of them suffer, and Military Boot Camps are perfect for that.
Likewise Mark Mitchell’s recently announced War on Crime – it doesn’t fucking work!
The redneck electorate who voted in this hard right racist climate denying beneficiary bashing Government don’t care that their feelings are counterproductive and stupid, and this was always the danger of allowing ‘feelings’ to dominate the political discourse.
The woke led with their intersectionist Critical Race/Critical Gender lived experience ‘feelings’ from 2016 and the Right are now leading with their ‘feelings’.
Fuck your feelings.
Objectivity, reason, logic – these are all now heteronormative white cis male privileges so have been dumped by the Woke Left to decolonise their movements, the problem is the Right have seized upon the culture war ammunition the Woke gifted them and are now ramming through even more stupid policy.
We are implementing draconian kneejerk bullshit right wing myths that will make things worse, not better and the right wing spite electorate are so drunk on power they refuse to acknowledge any of that.
We’ve had our post Covid bitterness at Jacinda having the temerity to save 20 000 lives manipulated into voting for ACT, National and NZ First for the interests of their rich prick donors.
We are a very easily led people.
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Saw David Seymour on the news at a military academy type place. Kids in uniform lining up parade ground style. He looked like he was either having an orgasm or pissing himself like an excited puppy.
That was Vanguard
https://vanguard.school.nz/
It’s a roaring success with underprivileged kids from bad areas queuing up to get in. Whilst the applicants are self-selecting at least it gets them out of an environment where they are dragged down by the drop-kicks.
Live in Helensville and a few local parents have sent their kids to Vanguard with apparently great results – one kid that I know of is now in training to be a pilot with the RNZAF.
Was it reminding him of his juvenile fantasies of joining the Hitler Jugend and having a ride on a Tiger tank?
More like reminding him of his Tim Jago-esque fantasies about having a bunch of vulnerable juveniles under his control.
Maybe it all started when little Dave was a kid and was making prisons with his Duplo and locking the characters up.
One day he asked, ” Why don’t I have any friends?”
Instead of telling little Dave he was anti-social, that he shouldn’t take ALL the other kids’ toys and call them his own ‘private property’, the adults instead patted him on the head too much and replied, ” Oh little Dave , it’s because you’re neurodivergent.”
All Charter schools do is teach religion and creationism, and impose zero tolerance environments for students where they can be suspended for sneezing.
They’re also sovereign citizen hot houses.
The whole point of them is to enable inter-generational destruction of secular public education and with it any ethos of social responsibility and cohesion. The concept of The Commons is to be wiped from existence.
Not necessariy. They a re not only for Religious groups. However, they are heinous! I have some considerable experience with the model. There is no oversight of aacademics or Pegagogy. There is no rigorous checking of staff who do not have to be qualified in anything. They are open to being infiltrated by heinous humand – similar to former ACT Party persons.
Being serious about the Atlas agenda it appears that Nationals funders actually intend that the completion of the Reagan Thatcher Douglas agenda be pushed through. ACT will of course be blamed but National are actively compliant.
This is the complete reversal of the social contract between the ruling classes and the masses. We are back to where Western socialism originated. The idea of welfare is being replaced by brutal selective charity.
Who benefits and who loses?
This is why these ‘policies’ are in vogue – that and the election funders (donators) what a return on their investment.
‘Charter Schools DON’T work. They don’t. They take the best students from Public Education and hide the true cost of that. Charter Schools are merely a trojan horse to attack public education, it’s as simple as that.’
State education sucks. Piss poor results, truancy endemic, ideologically loaded curriculum, attachment to fads that dont work, classes filled with the unmotivated morons because the establishment refuses to accept that some kids are simply brighter than other kids. Given an alternative, who in their right would send their kids to a state school? And all this after 6 years of Labour with Hipkins as minister of Education before he became leader. Absolutely fucking useless. All I can say is thank God they lost.
Handing over control of schools to private companies and church groups is not the answer.
Look at the UK they did that, and now creationism is being taught, and also LGBT students are actively targeted.
State education sucks. Piss poor results, truancy endemic, ideologically loaded curriculum, attachment to fads that dont work
Lets break this down – poor results (sure this is true), truancy (also true but the hangover from Covid so a bit of a grasp), ideologically loaded curriculum (sorry what? example might help), fads (oh – like Charter schools and needing to legislate no phones in schools when schools were already managing this) … the biggest problem with State education is that it has been underfunded for a long time (to enable people to suggest privatisation will help – which it won’t) to the point where it is close to breaking – the current lot should help with this because they offer nothing new that will help.
Your faith in the incumbents will not help with improving public education in NZ – proper funding in an ongoing way just might.
I wonder of the contradiction of why Charter Schools are exempt from mobile phone bans, registered teachers, and compulsory 3 R’s that have been the focus of National’s education policies?
Let alone the folly of allowing Destiny to run schools at public expense, and public schools that fail to meet standards to be converted into Charter schools where there are no standards!
Like most of the current failures in our country: poverty, State Housing; education; health; infrastructure and roads; it is lack of money that is the source of the problem. And until our Government, any Government, rebalances our tax system away from lining the richest pockets it will continue.
Live in Helensville and a few local parents have sent their kids to Vanguard with apparently great results – one kid that I know of is now in training to be a pilot with the RNZAF.
This is us under Nact and NZ First…
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/why-is-the-far-right-on-the-rise-in-germany-all-over-again/DR2Y5ABXKFB77PR7VRCUFY2V5M/
They looked like soldiers so regimental reminds me of when I was at primary school in Blenheim in the 1970s. These are small school with small classes, so their teachers are able to spend quality time with them. Also, we can’t have one rule for mainstream and another for Charter schools it’s not right nor is it fair. Secondly funding was much greater per child with less kids also not right and not fair. Thirdly the political reason for this change isn’t all about better educational outcomes they (Act) are about breaking down collectivism and shifting to privatisation. Education needs to remain a public good and our government has a responsibility to ensure all children have equal opportunity to get a good education that is why we pay taxes.
They looked like soldiers so regimental reminds me of when I was at primary school in Blenheim in the 1970s. These are small school with small classes, so their teachers are able to spend quality time with them. Also, we can’t have one rule for mainstream and another for Charter schools it’s not right nor is it fair. Secondly funding was much greater per child with less kids also not right and not fair. Thirdly the political reason for this change isn’t all about better educational outcomes they (Act) are about breaking down collectivism and shifting to privatisation. Education needs to remain a public good and our government has a responsibility to ensure all children have equal opportunity to get a good education that is why we pay taxes.
They look like soldiers so regimental reminds me of when I was at primary school in Blenheim in the 1970s. These are small school with small classes, so their teachers are able to spend quality time with them. Also, we can’t have one rule for mainstream and another for Charter schools it’s not right nor is it fair. Secondly funding was much greater per child with less kids also not right and not fair. Thirdly the political reason for this change isn’t all about better educational outcomes they (Act) are about breaking down collectivism and shifting to privatisation. Education needs to remain a public good and our government has a responsibility to ensure all children have equal opportunity to get a good education that is why we pay taxes.
You may be right and thinks will not improve but 6 years of Labour kid glove treatment of offenders both gang members and young people it is worth trying another approach.
Schools have failed to prepare young people for the work force .They seem to enforce rights instead of responsibility so let’s try another approach .You cannot compare with overseas model as we are setting our own style and values.
If the intervention fails we will know at the ballot box in 2026 but at least they tried
No one, no one was manipulated into voting for this mob, no one. This is all the result of Labour pissing off a large section of its voter base and not doing enough to win them back thereafter.
So, the equation is easy. Whatever this mob implements Labour vows to overturn – using a combination of strong, accurate, concise messaging and by keeping the public well informed as to why these polices will not work….remembering of course, that these polices have both been tried and have had a track record of failure there after as a result.
In short, this is all easy peasy stuff if we actually have a Labour party worth its bloody salt! And if we don’t, then hey, step on up the next party willing to actually serve the people!
They look like soldiers so regimental reminds me of when I was at primary school in Blenheim in the 1970s. These are small school with small classes, so their teachers are able to spend quality time with them. Also, we can’t have one rule for mainstream and another for Charter schools it’s not right nor is it fair. Secondly funding was much greater per child with less kids also not right and not fair. Thirdly the political reason for this change isn’t all about better educational outcomes they (Act) are about breaking down collectivism and shifting to privatisation. Education needs to remain a public good and our government has a responsibility to ensure all children have equal opportunity to get a good education that is why we pay taxes.
If Seymour has millions of dollars up his sleeve, he needs to show us he’s serious about education by using it to improve existing public schools.
Assess children for Irlen Syndrome among other educational difficulties.
Do the easy fixes to improve results for Irlen children. It might be ‘scientifically questionable’ but how come the solutions work.
I have seen this personally. If a child is bright and interested, has a good vocabulary, attends school regularly and does well at many things, just not school work, they may have Irlen syndrome. In other words when all the obvious problems have been ruled out, look at Irlen Syndrome.
You don’t need millions of dollars. You need someone with some training in each school and a varied supply of transparent coloured A4 plastic sheets for children to choose from. It doesn’t cost much to try. Much cheaper than the unproved experiment Mr. Seymour wants to inflict on us.
Children are at school for 10 -12 years. His proposal might well see some children failing to get any kind of formal education in the 3Rs if all they have to do is prove attendance and an arbitrary standard not based on the rest of the present school curriculum. That’s their school years gone and wasted for some silly experiment which is mainly for teaching propaganda and making people less likely to question, not more questioning, observant and thinking logically.
Many very bright children are stymied by their inability to learn to read. They are dazzled by white paper covered with black writing. The words move, float, join together and separate leaving large gaps, words can be fuzzy, or have letters half missing. A coloured filter can make print become clear.
Google Irlen Syndrome symptoms. It is a sensitivity to light not an intelligence or ‘learning problem’ as we normally think of them.
It affects a lot of people but is poorly understood. Educational ‘experts’ appear to have been reluctant to consider it. The solution can be so simple and cheap it seems too good to be true. So why not experiment with that before experimenting with peoples’ lives.
Also google Lucy Lawless’ article from the NZ Herald, ‘Seeing the World Differently’. Aug. 2014.
It’s an ‘eye-opener’.
Luxie’s pre budget speech was really quite bizzare. Propaganda doesn’t begin to describe it. It was like he’s living in a different reality, spinning and spinning.
It was a deluded , ” I have a dream…”. devoid of the reality of the impacts of his random, scatterbrain policies and the wider mass damage across the globe of his NACTZi ideologies.
Having disparaged and prevented young voices from being heard (and cut funding) he then goes on to talk about HIS narcissistic utopia that, thank the Lord, he has already started to create for young people in 2040.
He’ll be 69 !
Did he listen to any of the global youth panels of recent weeks…?
They are smart, connected across the globe , talking about all the propaganda they have been born into; millions of young people in huge movement far smarter than any generation before in terms of global issues.
Discussed on TDB before has been various topics about which party has or hasn’t delivered. There’s a powerful block of unheard people in this debate, the ONES who have to live in this sci-fi, MAD MAX world.
(;yes, it’s already here, Sudan’s people can tell you and so can the millions and milliond of displaced citizens globally)
These young people of the world now have the voting block AND they definitely DO NOT WANT the NACTZis OR Labour solutions.
They’ve stated that they have had enough.
That living from paycheck to paycheck leaves them tired of today’s governments who leave them such little hope on environmental issues, peace, food and energy sustainability, safety, housing etc for ALL their global young counterparts.
They’re united and connected instantly in massive, real, influential social groups. The disconnected Winnies, little Daves and deluded Luxies, Bidens, Trumps, Suniks et al ARE NOT part of their 2040 dreams but their nightmares.
My kids just went through one of the most proggy high schools in the country where it’s decile 4 in a decile 10 neighbourhood – many of the locals go to private schools. it’s full of woke, trans rights, extinction rebellion and human rights activism with a bit of bogan thrown in for good measure. We have thrown a few parties for them and the kids, by and large, are well adjusted and on to it. Couldn’t be happier with their education, peer groups and prospects.
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