We cannot recall having ever seen a more contemptable piece of journalism than Jack Tame’s 45 minute interview with the Israeli ambassador on this morning’s Q and A.
45 minutes of unchallenged Israeli lies and propaganda was presented to New Zealanders directly from the Israeli Embassy courtesy of TVNZ.
And as is typical with Western media, and Television New Zealand in particular, Palestinians and Palestinian viewpoints were no-where to be seen.
People around the country are rightly outraged.
As a first step we are making a formal complaint to TVNZ and the Broadcasting Standards Authority.
John Minto
National Chair
PSNA
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I didn’t hear the interview, but the carefully prepared backdrop to the photo seems intended to indicate that Jack Tame is an official representative of the New Zealand government. I am mystified as to why Israel would want to give this impression, or why Jack Tame would allow it to do so.
Jack thinks he represents New Zealand such is his vanity.
Gurgle gurgle whoosh sploosh another one splashes down
John – So you disagree, therefore it is all lies? NZ Media has swamped Kiwis with unfiltered Hamas propaganda…It is called balance
I’m sorry I must have missed the Hamas propaganda, where should I go to find it?
stand_alone_complex: Good news for you, watch the 6 o’clock news – either TVNZ, or Newshub for your daily dose of Hamas propaganda.
I suppose hundreds of injured and dead women and children, bombed out buildings including hospitals is propaganda. You do realise a definition of propaganda is rumor and disinformation to help a cause. So this propaganda you are seeing on the news is just rumors and it’s actually not happening
You won’t find this mythical unfiltered Hamas propaganda because Nathan as usual is just making shit up.
We have however had months of unfiltered Israeli propoganda.
The trolls on this site are tiresome.
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Grey Area – Looked in the mirror Troll?
To be fair, the old gentleman may be confused as to what “propaganda” actually is.. Lord knows I’ve come across that particular affliction far too often in NZ..
stefan – Lame, Stefan, lame.
Nathan – Are you a Zionist?
Why don’t you tell us why you won’t answer the question?
Pat O’Dea – No, I am not a Zionist…I believe nasty bullies, like Hamas, who hide behind women and children, need to be exposed…how about you?
Unlike nasty land grabbing settlers in the West Bank who hide behind the IDF as they torch and murder there way to land aquisition Nathan. They don’t need to be exposed I guess.
Incel Dave the 2nd – Those land grabbing settlers are removed by the IDF too. Just like in Gaza.
So you disagree with the disagreeing, so you are all lies!! Al this petty point scoring is actually pointless, time-wasting and iniquitous. But keep it up as it seems to give personal satisfaction and make you appear to be wise while actually doing nothing for the sufferers.
You have lost the plot Nathan.
Wheel – Funny, that’s what the bots say word for word – “You have lost the plot” – according to recent Government hearings in the USA…
Well I am glad I could add that human touch to your feedback. Perhaps it wasn’t a very constructive comment, to be fair, but it’s simply not correct to suggest that the likes of one news has Hamas propaganda. They too seem to live with the bullshit fear of being labelled with the anti semite tag.
Did you really expect anything else from Jack?
Did you really expect anything more from Jack?
I bet they’re quaking in their boots.
The interview made frequent reference to legalities, legal advice, lawyers.
1930’s Germany tried to legally legitimise antisemitism by adopting laws based on the Jim Crow laws, that were being used in America, and not repealed until 1968.
Will Israel foot the bill for Gaza reconstruction, since the ambasador admitted that they will not wipe out Hamas, then turning Gaza into rubble seems ultimately pointless.
NZ has some responsibility by association since many of those in Gaza have been killed by explosives manufactured in the US and UK, which are historically NZ allies, and which NZ is currently discussing Aukus pillar 2 with.
Since the Gaza war broke out, the US has made not a couple of shipments, or even a dozen shipments of weapons to Israel, but have made over 100.
Can Gaza be seeded to Egypt? Can WestBank be seeded to Jordan? Can there be a referendum for this overseen by the UN? All the previous talk of a two state solution, seems to have gotten nowhere.
The Luxon regime is 100% complicit in the genocide of the human population of Palestine.
Not only are we taking part in terrorist attacks against the Yemeni government for their humanitarian intervention against the genocide, not only is there an American military base in Christchurch airport, but even if the GCSB isn’t directly providing signals intelligence to the zionist entity it is to the US and UK, which will pass it on to the entity. That intelligence is used to target journalists, doctors, children, and other high priority targets of the zionists.
why is this arsehole still in NZ ?hE SHOULD HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT ALONG WITHE RUSSIAN FELLA LONG AGO .bUT NO .The government is as weak as piss
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And I’ll +2
That was my first thought, too…. why is he still here, let alone being interviewed?
You make some good points Caroline.
Not a word about the increasing number of prisoners that Israel is holding in the West Bank without trial, I thought this was illegal.
The whole thing was appalling, lies, misinformation and more bullshit.
He was far too clever and smug and Tame could never have held him to account.
https://www.oct7factcheck.com/index
Here’s 1 example from the site ,,, https://www.oct7factcheck.com/oct7factcheck/White-flag-executions-by-Israel-5313b9bf8e82432e92abd6e61cef6963 clicking on the arrow beside the claim brings up the proof ,,,
gaby and Nathan repeatedly whinge “Hamas just need to surrender” ,,, well that is shown to be the absolute crap that they have a deserved reputation for posting…. A couple of shit humans posting crap,,,, that’s Zionists for you.
Why is the Israeli ambassador still in NZ? I would have thought that we could block his food, electricity and water supplies like Israel is doing to Gaza then see how long he lasts. At least we could be non violent to preserve some sense of dignity.
Swingeing.
PSNA needs to have the right of reply.
Jack Tame and his team can not claim impartiality if they deny PSNA an equal right of reply.
Bias in an ongoing genocide is a serious matter, for which Jack Tame and his team will have to answer.
Grave television news and long ‘discussion’ at breakfast was always an irrational (barmy in plain English) idea and by the sounds of it this interview is proven as unsuitable viewing also bad for digestion, health and safety and mental health to be shown at a time when one is in one’s fumbling efforts to get neurons in order and stalwart and considering if there is to be a hard decision this day to be made that goes against the general consensus which will do you no good for promotion!
A sentence like that is an example of what should never be broadcast at breakfast time, and in the same way, news about a long-running debasement of a once-proud people with principles and imagination, ie either the Jewish or Palestinian people (toss a coin) cannot be properly considered at that time.
I did watch it, initially thinking, here we go, how is this going to unfold. The setting puzzled me a little, with the NZ and Israeli flags in the foreground giving the impression it was all politically sanctioned. I’m sure it was. TV1, national television NZ on Air funding. The script seemed predictable. No doubt the Israeli ambassador was given a prior outline of the questions. Jack Tame, to his credit, took the moral ground. As Tame pointed out the killing of innocent children in conflict is morally indefensible. As is the killing of civilians, although historically this did not prevent the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Others more knowledgeable in global conflicts might point to other situations where the moral and the pragmatic have become blurred.
The Israeli ambassador predictably took the legal ground, and painted Hammas as a terrorist organization with no democratic mandate. Plenty would be taking his side on this one. And in the end the Israeli position seemed to carry the day. The ambassador wouldn’t budge. IMV it was a challenging interview for Tame, not least with the two flags in the foreground but also because in the format presented for the interview he was never really was able to hold the ambassador to account for Israeli actions. But let’s face it, Jack Tame is no Pilliger. Not that he aspires to be.
Both the interviewer and interviewee should be locked in a secure mental facility indefinitely. As part of the Israeli state this guy is guilty of crimes including
Blowing the limbs off children and then starving them to death
Shooting doctors and nurses in the face as they work in their hospital
Murdering civilians indiscriminately without reason including tens of thousands of young, vulnerable and ill
Killing those who had surrendered while waving a white flag (Israelis and Palestinians)
Killing journalists and aid workers like they were hunting animals
Collectively punishing millions of people for the crimes of a few
Starving and depriving people of the essentials for life
Destroying all infrastructure so that resettlement is probably impossible
Forced transfer of people to an area where they are then murdered
Battle testing arms and technology on unarmed innocent civilians
Breaching the Vienna and Geneva conventions
Bombing an embassy
Illegally invading and occupying land
Playing the sounds of babies crying over loudspeakers to draw people out so they can murder them
Posting their crimes on social media for laughs
Sniffing the panties of the people whose homes they ransack and loot
Propagandizing the world, manipulating governments and generally making societies really shit for a lot of people
By giving him a platform TVNZ is guilty of providing cover to these monsters to justify and normalize these atrocities, and is therefore guilty of aiding and abetting these crimes.
Ironically, at our Rally for Palestine in Ōtautahi Christchurch last week, a speaker from the Palestinian community highlighted ways in which our media is complicit in the ongoing genocide in Palestine. And right on cue, TVNZ delivers a graphic example today. Disgraceful all round.
” People around the country are rightly outraged. ”
Maybe John but that anger and disgust counts for nothing as long as it is silent.
New Zealanders voted for this three way circus that represents our official foreign policy position of supporting and enabling the Israeli state to continue the current slaughter and destruction of Gaza and possibly the West Bank will be next.
And when the current genocide first began Labour right up to the general election had the same position which was to support the Zionist state by not expelling their ambassador or taking a stand against this violation of human rights something we used to aspire to not that long ago.
We have traded our humanity , self respect and courage for a foreign agenda that demands our total capitulation to this five eyes security arrangement.
TVNZ sold its soul to this arrangement by being the official spokesperson of the sitting government whoever that is on our behalf whether you agree with this policy or not.
This is the fourth estate that is supposedly a main foundation of our supposed liberal free democracy.
Its anything but.
Flags and suits. yuk.
You want to know what this is all about? You do don’t you. Yes, you do. I’m here to help and Pink Floyd has the answer.
Money.
https://youtu.be/-0kcet4aPpQ?feature=shared
Or perhaps if you’re more of a direct sort of type.
I want Money. The Flying Lizards.
https://youtu.be/fVuSYUNAekc?feature=shared
I was spending time with a friend of a friends little boy aged about ten. Asked him, what would you like if you could have anything in the world and he said without any discernible hesitation. ” I want money, money,money,money,money,money,money,money,money,money,money,money,money,money,money,money,money,money,money … ” So I sprayed him with fly spray then I pushed him headfirst into my vegetable garden. I reasoned that I may as well make some use of the little shit.
Those two are there because they get paid a ton of money simply by jabbering away at each other while banking the cash knowing their opinions mean less than nothing while flies lay eggs in dead Palestinian children.
Why are you outraged. Have you not learnt by now that our media is broken and that their job is to serve an equally broken political system. Why bother appealing to this broken edifice when all they, the media are doing, is doing what they are told to do by our broken/corrupted political system.
Stop bothering to appeal to them – the corrupted – and start fighting the powers behind this corruption through creating awareness among the people to the two major problems (a corrupted media serving a corrupted political system), that we, the people face.
With awareness comes mass, comes mobility, comes the opportunity to pit people power against the power of money, thus the opportunity to break the stranglehold that money holds over politics…remembering of course that awareness will not come from watching/listening to mainstream and state media. Awareness can be created by places like this joint, by independent, typically user-funded media, assuming that these places put the interests of the people ahead of all other interests, of course.
Remember also that a genocide would not happen in a just world. The world is broken, thus we need to work outside of this system in order to fix this system, rather than trying to work with it in a vain hope that it may change. Tokenism is all you will get from this broken system. Meanwhile, if they are allowed to get away with this genocide, then what else, or whom else will be next for this broken system to target.
No. Stop appealing to the broken and start waking up the masses to the state of the real world today. Awareness, being informed, is perhaps the greatest tool we have. Time we used it.
1. Did Hamas start the Gaza War? What about the intensive West Bank ultra-zionist settler violence, harrassment and explusion of Palestinian villagers and communities which escalated in 2023? Provocation, anyone?
2. What about the frankly neofascist coalition members of the current Netanyahu Cabinet like Itamar Ben-Gvir (National Security, Otzma Yehudit) and Bezalel Smotrich (Finance, Religious Zionist)? Or their plans for further illegal settlements? Ben-Gvir is a hardcore Kahanist neofascist (based on the philosophy of the racist and ultra-zionist late Rabbi Meir Kahane)?
3. I agree, Jack Tame was underinformed in this context. Hopefully, we can have an interview with Palestinian solidarity movement leaders for some much needed rebuttal and reframing of this shameless propaganda effort. The Israeli Ambassador should be sent home and perhaps the Israeli Embassy should also be closed.
The Truth About the Destruction of Gaza
Michael Hudson •
https://www.unz.com/mhudson/the-truth-about-the-destruction-of-gaza/
@PerceivedREALITY999
9 days ago
75 year long apartheid, 16 year long blockade of Gaza and now committing genocide. Pure evil.
@mk4922
9 days ago
I’ve listened to so many hours describing how the genocide was planned, but nothing compares to the horror of Michael Hudson’s dispassionate depiction of Israel’s systematic destruction of a population.
Thank you Professor Hudson and thank you Ania.
@casteretpollux
9 days ago
Genocide is the descent up humanity to the moral sewer, for the purpose of land and resource theft. Thank you for discussing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNu_OGbqyWk