The feral anti vax lunatics scream the vaccine was made by a shadowy one world government child molesting Satanic cult who used 5G technology to weaken our immune systems.
Sure they did.
The truth is Jacinda and Labour’s political courage and Covid leadership saved 20 000 lives…
New Zealand’s Covid-19 response saved 20,000 lives – research
New Zealand’s restrictions during the pandemic saved the lives of about 20,000 people, according to new research.
The paper by 16 leading doctors and scientists, published in the New Zealand Medical Journal on Friday, is calling for all serious respiratory infections – including influenza and RSV – to be treated the same way.
…and it resulted in NZ bucking life expectancy trend during COVID-19…
NZ bucked life expectancy trend during COVID-19 – study
“These findings provide further evidence supporting the effectiveness of the elimination strategy for minimising mortality from the pandemic,” Otago University epidemiologist Professor Michael Baker told RNZ.
New Zealand has been praised for its elimination strategy in the early stages of the pandemic. It kept Covid numbers down until vaccines became widely available.
New Zealand in 2020 and 2021 also experienced very little influenza.
By the end of 2021, 90 percent of the eligible population had been double vaccinated.
It was not until 2022, after the government had relaxed pandemic controls, that the country had its first major outbreak, fueled by the highly transmissible Omicron variant.
In 2022, deaths in New Zealand were up 10.4 percent on the previous year – the biggest annual increase since 1918 (following the influenza pandemic).
There were two obvious contributors to the increase: the pandemic and the country’s ageing population, according to Statistics New Zealand.
In total, nearly 6000 New Zealanders have died with Covid, according to the latest Te Whatu Ora data.
But compared with other nations, New Zealand is said to have got off lightly.
“[The paper] reinforces other evidence that New Zealand’s response was extremely effective at minimising mortality during the pandemic,” Baker said.
…the feral anti vaxxers who have been tricked led and manipulated by Social Media Hate algorithms scream NZ has had excess mortality when that is just garage.
The facts remains that Jacinda and Labour saved us from a public health catastrophe over Covid and we repaid that courage by electing a hard right racist climate denying beneficiary bashing Government.
We are our own worst enemies in New Zealand.
You are so easily played you sleepy hobbits.
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When people stop ignoring the evidence that alcohol is a public health hazard I will believe that they are serious about being healthy.
Alcohol is not a social contagion that will end humanity, my love.
It hinders people’s ability to think rationally so it prevents them from being the best that they could be. All I see is that the opportunity to make a few dollars and get a buzz is considered more important than real health reform so I don’t expect any changes before the world ends.
Well according to common server to commentators, the 20,000 figure is “just a guess”. Sigh. Considering that an educated guess from ace scientist is probably as good as we are going to get, and considering that their hold bullshit anti-vax thing is based on wild speculation …….. enough said.
Wild speculation by the likes of Professor Angus Dalgliesh, the head of oncology at St Georges Hospital London, who has called for an immediate ban of MRNA vaccines due to the terrifying safety signals, linked too a rise in aggressive cancers (Peer reviewed paper out of Japan this week concurs). Or one of the worlds foremost cardiologists Assem Malhotra, who has made similar statements around the incidences of myocarditis. There are a number of highly credentialed people calling for extreme caution around MRNA vaccines. We live in an extremely dangerous world if credible dissent from the mainstream narrative is completely suppressed and aggressively attacked. Imagine if some of these dissenters are right?
Linked to a rise in aggressive cancers? Is that because people stopped seeing health professionals because the system was overloaded with COVID patients? How many UK patients received the traditional vaccine ( from AZ)?
“Specifically, our case report has been misinterpreted as evidence that Pfizer/BioNTech’s COVID-19 mRNA vaccine could cause a scientifically unrecognized phenomenon called ‘turbo-cancer,’”
Bullshit as usual.
Sadly Winston has given the river of filth a controlling interest in NZ along side the rich pricks .Jacinda saved the ferrals lives and the rich pricks fleeced as much free money as they could .And these are the same cunts that wanted to rape and murder her and her daughter and tried to imply her ,now husband was a major drug dealer .
Long live Jacinda
No doubt another more intelligent country will snap her up in the future .
The people most at risk were likely Labour voters anyway. They couldn’t vote twice.
WTF – where to you get your assessment from? My guess is directly from Q-anon or similar. Actually – most of National and Winston First voters are in the ‘older’ demographic NOT Labour and definitely not Green. The pig ignorance is astounding – you voted for ACT right?!
South Auckland votes Labour and Māori/Pacific we’re vulnerable. The older people you talk about were ordering Dom Perignon by courier or trading their shares. I didn’t vote ACT but you could do with keeping to the topic.
She ruined NZ’s firearms laws, so Labour is gone.
I think the C-19 crew within Labour, what ever that is, did a bloody good job without being the natzo trademark arrogant plus patronising plus fucked it up thus get in the bulldozers to bury the dead.
If the national, act, nz fir$t coalition had been the gubbimint during covid the cue’s wouldn’t be so long to get into the all bought and paid by sponsorship footy.
@ Eric. You wrote that out loud. You do realise that don’t you. Tell me? If a shotgun and a rifle mated would they have baby pistols? Here’s what you can do @ Erik Nordmeyer. Fly to Portugal, take an E then tell me if you can kill things.
Labour. Fuck labour. They’re rogers neo-liberal infection walking. Labour, or at least what was left of Labour after roger and his little diddle did their dirty work on it. Labour is the same [thing] as national. Let’s not forget that. It was the few good people within labour’s crooked camp that did the hard work. Labour simply funnelled our money into pfizer and generally couldn’t give a fuck either way as is evident in our crumbling societies and our tanking economy.
Labour did a good job regarding Covid-19, but only ACT will fix what they did to the firearms laws. Anything else ACT do is acceptable collateral damage.
Poor baby – gun possession was never a right in NZ – it’s a privilege.
Those that object to reasonable public safety regulation do not deserve that privilege.
We need legislation that actually focuses on public safety, not feels. What we have now, fails everyone.
I am totally satisfied with the current gun laws and if they prevent losers like you from getting the gun of your dreams that makes me even happier. While the current government might decide to change the availability of various weapons I suspect that the instability within society will have them regretting their actions when someone runs amuck. Going on your selfish comments it’s clear that you don’t care about the protection of other people so this is probably something that you won’t understand.
Under the current laws I can buy any firearm, ANY.
The current instability in our society sees gang members armed with all manner of firearms, people shooting at kids over a rugby game, road rage shootings etc. These are not committed by LFOs.
Goes right across government – not much better than tiger food, any of them.
touche’
Maybe ACT will deal with some of your “privileges”.
Is “free” food in schools a “privilege”?
What about your benefit, Stuart?
Given the amount of times you post, what you post and the different times of the day, I’d say you should be very grateful for your sickness benefit Erik.
Maybe this is my job, for which I am paid handsomely 😉
I work for a living you Trumpist gunnutjob far-right parasite.
Did I touch a nerve?
No – I just like to ping ignorant lying scum.
The fact that they have micropenises and need big guns to compensate is neither here nor there.
Funny, I enjoy baiting the idiots here.
Another word from Charlton Heston.
I thought it was Erik the Qanon Viking Shaman.
Nothing like an ad hominem attack to prove your point?
You have no point, that’s the trouble with you.
Jeez… you really LOVE guns don’t ya? Do you have a wee harem of rifles?
Just one of my many hobbies.
Yes Erik the police have you on their gun registry and also on their extremist registry.
Actually we have our eye on you Bert.
I always find it funny that you idiots are quite happy to cry & whine, accusing people, who put a lot of money & effort in to obeying laws (which are often stupid & misdirected), of being dangerous or extremists, while showing deference to people who deal drugs, commit serious violent crimes & even shoot at kids in a van over a school rugby game. Then you wonder why the country is a mess. Maybe this Government might fix something, probably not, but it is definitely a government you lot deserve. Enjoy.
We like to compare ourselves with Nordic countries even if we don’t perform as well as them usually.
With covid deaths let’s compare ourselves to Sweden, with roughly twice our population.
They’ve had nearly 27,000 deaths. If we halve that for us, that gives us over 13,000 deaths.
We’ve had just on 5,700 deaths.
By anyone’s standard we have done extremely well.
This was only possible thanks to the leadership of the Labour govt. A National govt. would have let it rip. Business comes first, no matter what.
With our quite vulnerable sections of the population who through everyday poor health and poor access to medical facilities, we would have far exceeded 13,000 possible deaths. 20,000 deaths might well have occurred.
That is a guess but it’s a logical one. Vulnerable populations wouldn’t have been the only groups dying. The loud, party types of all sorts, those who can’t stay home, have to throw themselves all over people including hose from the leafy suburbs would also have had high losses because they know best, as always. Rules and restrictions are only for plebs. They don’t apply to them, they know best!!!!
Businesses would, of course, have suffered anyway, whether they opened or not. The more who die, the fewer potential customers you have. But they know best!
It wouldn’t all have been old people who died. There’s be more orphans now and families decimated, in the leafy suburbs too.
I think the angry people who punished Labour for saving their lives just because they couldn’t go out for coffee or go skiing, need to look at themselves. Selfish and thoughtless. Thoughtless, as in, their brains are full of nothing, like Erik on here who hasn’t got beyond playing with guns. How old is he? 4?
So many NZders have forgotten how to live properly. Selfish, empty decisions rule their lives.
Nothing like an ad hominem attack. Maybe we are just sick of supporting the useless, degenerates & criminals that blight our society & add nothing to it, and so you have the Government you deserve.
degenerates, indeed.
Oh dear did we all touch a nerve?
Degenerate government?, yes indeed.
You love this Government, it’s just what you wanted.
Excess deaths in Sweden are the lowest in the OECD.
It depends on if the figure is adjusted for migration or not. If you adjust for the end of migration during those years, then the 20,000 saved drops right away to something that is about middle of the road for pandemic mortality.
Depends on whether your numbers are right.
What sort of shit do you eat. You spew plenty back out.
Adjust it for the end of humanity.
What?
Your assertion is incorrect. Please cite your reference.
The World Average (mortality) per 1M people was 90,413 deaths
USA 333985
France 612013
Germany 462891
South Korea 673523
Japan 269169
Italy 443445
UK 363666
Australia 454687
NZ 1163
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
The variance above cannot be explained by variations in migration.
If you are standing by your assertion – please show us how you came to it.
Right here:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00779954.2024.2314770
Taylor and Francis…
In 2016, Critical Reviews in Toxicology was accused by the Center for Public Integrity of being a “broker of junk science”.[44] Monsanto was found to have worked with an outside consulting firm to induce the journal to publish a biased review of the health effects of its product “Roundup”.[45]
Thank you Peter – I look forward to reading a peer reviewed perspective – might need to change my perspective even!
Bob, you’ve compared the total CASES per million population for USA, France etc with NZ’s DEATHS per million population. That’s stupid. I don’t know quite how dim you have to be to do that… but it probably means you should lay off calling other people thick for at least all eternity.
Jacinda received her covid management reward in 2020 with an absolute majority,
By 2023 Jacinda had done a runner leaving the hapless, hopless Hipkins in charge.
Labour received the “humpty dump” in 2023 because the heroine was gone, replaced by a ginger whinger, so any reward left due to heroine could not be spent.
The current Government won by default!
Clifford’s you are so right .The country said thank you and then Labour blew it .This constant whin that the voting public was hoodwinked to vote against Labourvis just so wrong .Voters saw an economy in free fall ,crime and gangs out of control ,a growing public service but no increase in satisfaction from results .Stupid last minute calls like GST off fruit and veg showed a lack of any real solutions .Add into this mix a popular leader doing a runner to be replaced by a reluctant weak leader and the outcome was inevitable.
At least the labour government knew that big tax cuts were unaffordable, not Nicola though, I guess when her role models were Joyce and English it is no surprise that she can’t count.
But printing a truckload of cash was awesome wasn’t it, keep complaining about supermarket prices. This is what you wanted ay. Stop blaming covid for what the govt did to you
No you idiot, it’s what you right wing wingers wanted to keep businesses alive!
Trevor you keep trumpeting the Luxon and Willis bullshit that the economy was/is in free fall? What are you talking about? The governments books? No by all accounts you are wrong? Slow down in exports to China? How is that a policy decision? Inflation? Hardly unique to NZ and already heading south before a change of government. Did they employ too many in the state sector? Guess we will find out, but was population growth over that period? Did Labour let too many in? Possibly, but that’s a National thing too except they cut services as population increases which is simply f’ing stupid.
Labour did lots wrong but the fiscal stuff is just, for the most part, Luxon BS. Now your mates are borrowing to fund tax cuts not infrastructure. Where is crime at?
Hipkins was much stronger and won all 3 debates during the election campaign… so what does that make Luxon?
An embarrassment to our country Grant.
The current government won’t last the 3 years due to the massive ‘differences’ between the 3 parties – especially WinstonFirst & ACT. National and ACT or National might be able to last the distance but the ‘issues’ between Winston & David “Rimmer” Seymour are far too intractable to resolve amicably. I predict that the current administration will dissolve within 2 years of starting.
Labour demonstrated very nicely they couldn’t deliver on any of their promises and spent billions doing it. Aspiration is not results
In the prent recession we needed competence. There was no other alternative
Anne, nothing like a bit of your bullshit and rhetoric for a good laugh. Tell me, what is the “prent recession”?
We got the biggest payrises and free prescriptions. Labour was making this country a better place.
If you were a gang member it was great
And that has changed how?
Inflation ate our pay rises with a quarter – nothing was achieved.
As opposed to between 1991 and 2017 where hardly anyone got payrises.
Not in my roll it didn’t Stuart, but sorry for you, however.
Pay rises at or below the rate of inflation? Looks big but is actually a pay cut.
As opposed to National freezing wages for 9 years and allowing rents to spiral out of control.
Incorrect as always Erik the viking keyboard warrior.
The effect of their policies needs to last longer than three months – it has to give workers respite through the long days of austerity and far right bullshit of succeeding governments.
Much of the problem lies with Labour naively conceiving property price inflation as a public good. It is anything but.
Borrow to fund tax cuts is “competence” Anne? Pull the other one, it’s got inflation protected cigarettes attached. Did Costello think Benson & Hedging?
They did more research on hypothetical lifesaving than on the vaccine itself! The vaccine should have been voluntary because coercing someone to take pharmaceuticals is creepy as fuck. And if someone comes back with the theory that you injected this product to protect others then either
1. It isn’t a vaccine by definition, or 2. If it is a vaccine then you should be protected, and someone else’s choice and health status is their business.
What about the long covid peeps. Jacindia didn’t save them.
Don’t be childish. M+B
Labour would have done well to remind us of their Covid record in the shape of one of the lowest death rates in the world if not the lowest, at around election time. Instead fear of the anti-vaccers turned covid into some sort of “that which will not be named” topic.
Might also have had the courage to talk about changing the structure of our regressive tax system but fear of their perceived middle income voters made them afraid of talking about that as well…..in fact Labour seemed scared of talking about any issue seriously around election time.
Well said Martyn. I really don’t blame the feral antivaxxer idiots – they’re brainwashed. I really don’t blame the Clown Seymour, because you can’t fix stupid. I DO blame Peters, who should have known better given his years as an MP. There’s no excuse for his aligning with the Qanon mob. He’s obviously suffering from dementia. I also DO blame Luxon, because COVID was not something he should have made political capital out of. That was despicable. Most of all, I blame the 40 something percent of NZ voters for not using their reason and logic and for being dumb enough not to see through the tactics. Christ, most of them have been through the lies and manipulation of Lange/Douglas, Bolger/Richardson and Key. There’s no excuse at all for being fooled again.
“Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me thrice, I should be disenfranchised.”
A friend got two of the clot shots. A year or so later she died of aggressive cancer in lung, spine and brain.
Coincidence?
You vax pushers are fuckwits.
Cindy Horseteeth saved her own life by getting out of politics and I respect her for doing that. You would have to be an idiot to remain a leader who attracted the avowed support of someone like Martyn.
Best comment
The most childish comment.
Yes. It was coincidence. Moron.
I had a flu shot and then crossed the road a year later hate a heart attack should I stop crossing the road
My father had two vaccines. He contracted lymphocitic leaukemia one year later. Coincidence?
No, he was 92 and died of old age!
You anti Vax pushers are fuckwits!
You antivaxxers are hypocrites of the first order. 90% of you are over 40. That means you’ve been vaccinated. I know this for a fact, because until 1989, it was compulsory and parents had to show their vaccination certificates before enrolling their child in school – and there was no such thing as home schooling before 1989. Face the facts: before 1910, one child in three died before turning one, and another before six, and a third before 16. From the stone Age until 1910, every society on the planet was used to loosing three out of four children. What changed? Hygiene, public health including vaccination, and compulsory food and sanitation standards. Within a decade the infant/child mortality rate had dropped from 75% to 10%, and within another, it dropped to 1%. Smallpox and a host of diseases, including polio, all but disappeared.
Yes there are vaccine intolerant, but they number one in 100,000. They absolutely depend completely upon everyone else being vaccinated. Antivaxxer selfishness endangers their lives. Shame in you.
Brilliant post Richard and not one person can dispute your facts.
The antivaxxers are the same people who believe Trump that the US election was stolen.
Not really, actually, Bert.
I should clarify, my comment above refers specifically to the mrna covid vax pushers/mandators.
Thank you for the clarification, you toothless, sister marrying, banjo twanging, toe tapping, antivax seer redneck. Your friend’s cancer probably had nothing to do with their 2 packets of cigarettes and one bottle of whiskey a day. Coincidence?
Richard is still 100% correct despite your wonderful portrayal that you have a friend, you anti vax fuckwit( to use your own words)
seer April 19, 2024 at 10:57 am
Not really, actually, Bert.