The question isn’t ‘can Chloe be the co-leader’, the question is ‘why would Chloe want to be the co leader”.
More about that later.
Let me begin by saying this.
There are genuinely few politicians in this country who excite my intellect and provide me with real optimism and hope.
Chloe is one of them.
Ever since she came third for the Auckland mayoralty, she has stood out as an intellectual and philosophical giant for the Left.
Her ability to articulate and promote progressive ideas and values is a once in a generation talent.
She’s the Jacinda we all wished Jacinda could have been.
Her power to persuade, her wit and her intelligence mark her out as the leader the NZ left have been begging for.
And that could spell political doom for Labour.
One of the take aways from the latest Roy Morgan Poll which saw the Right lose almost 7% was that barely any of that went to Labour.
Left wing voters have turned to the Greens, Māori Party and TOP.
ABL.
Anyone But Labour.
Labour’s fecklessness to be transformative burnt and poisoned many on the Left.
In working class Auckland, these voters stayed at home and didn’t vote.
In middle class Auckland, they voted Green.
Labour haemorrhaged working class left vote AND lost middle class left vote.
In the Auckland middle class electorates, the Greens were incredibly successful because the Green Wealth Tax won them over intellectually.
If Chloe becomes the co-Leader, she will rip Labour voters from the hapless Chippy as middle class AND working class voters dump Labour for political parties with actual political values and real solutions.
If Labour are not frightened by Chloe as co-Leader and the ramifications of what that will do to the Left vote, then they have become as delusional as their GST off your banana strategy was.
So, the question isn’t ‘can Chloe be the co-leader’, the question is ‘why would Chloe want to be the co leader”.
I’ll make my argument that this is the real issue for Chloe on Sunday.
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If she takes the job, how do we ensure she is not harassed and threatened by the right-wing dirty politics brigade and the crazies.
Grow a back bone. Win the economic argument in full don’t just whinge how it’s all to hard.
If only it was so easy. Economics is like religion in that no amount of evidence will convince someone who doesn’t want to change their world view. The only thing you can guarantee is that the hardcore supporters of a particular view will disagree in the most objectionable way possible with any politician who contradicts them, especially if they are a woman or someone else they consider less worthy that themself.
Just don’t talk to them and raise wage inflation anyway.
You’re playing the victim card already?
I think Chloe is ready for it because she pays attention because the vast majority of people just don’t pay attention because everything is hopeless and there is nothing anyone can do and that the duties and responsibilities of government is just to big to takle. I haven’t seen any polls but I’m willing to beat that a large portion of New Zealand question our involvement in the bombing campaign against Yemem and reckon that New Zealand is run by a bunch of homicidal maniacs. Yes Chloe as leader will have to contend with disadvantages like Stephanie Girl Power Rogers but there are obvious take over opportunities that Chloe can click into by leaning on her track record and political history. But she’ll have to have balls. Bibi got on the phone to Jacinda and threatened her life just for signing upto to a pro Palestinian stance so we have to understand you gotta have balls.
She will be great so long as she does not scream and rant like she did a while ago .She is impresive most of the time .The haters and anti female brigade will be disgusting .
Chloe and James should start there own green/ blue party and leave the other Co leader s
Stick to the environment and the economy and I might consider supporting them again. Their social engineering efforts have been enough to put me off them.
Yes Bonnie, me too. The Greens need pragmatic policies that will positively affect and appeal to 90% of NZ voters rather than pissing their energy against the woke wall.
Is she experienced and ruthless enough yet. No good running too early like popular prince Lange, not knowing how to use power and control his retinue, ending with a cup of tea and a lie down.
The Left is the Left is the Left…if Labour no longer wishes to, at the very least, pay lip service to the Left – to the people – then yeah, the floor is open for someone, anyone, that wants to serve the people, to serve our interests. The Left, the people, is not and should never be, binding to one entity. Let the most worthy, champion our cause.
The problem for Ms Swarbrick is that she appears to be a rational thinker in a party that embraces US identity politics. She would do better in Labour or even National. Just saying, could someone tell her that the ö should be ë. Putting accents on English names is silly enough without choosing the wrong vowel.
I once asked her why the umlaut is on the wrong letter – she told me that she had made the choice when too young to appreciate the incorrectness, and then decided to stick with her choice regardless.
Her choice, and fair enough.
In this house we kneel for Queen Emperor of Aoteatoa Swarbrick!
I think the Greens have little, if any real chance of forming a government without Labour, so if Labour crashes so do the Greens. The Greens, in my opinion appear to be a little flaky at times, many voters think they are a one trick pony, with a complicated constitution, which could be described as ” Woke”, like National and Labour they seemed to be lacking experienced and competent, dare I say it, politicians. Anyway, National coalition seems to have their hands full, with policy inconsistencies, dubious tax cut revenue gathering schemes, poor Internal and foreign affairs decisions, let alone the perceived racist policies, to be confident of being returned to the treasury benches at the next elections.
Shaw was the last politician, the rest are just shrill activists.
Socio-political and political participation is very important. You undertake this task in the best possible way. But we should evaluate far-left tendencies carefully. The element of balance is indispensable in politics.
She’s a smart choice, but the structural issues for the Greens are not trivial. Male and female co-leadership was smart, and let the Greens avoid a lot of internal wrangling. As that widened to include other criteria, especially identitarian ones, the value decreased.
The Greens need to replace Shaw too – but no worthy male contender remains.
She must be all right – the right loathe her. But when it comes down to it, the Greens are largely middle-class party. Still, their hearts are mainly in the right place.
guerilla surgeon:
> the Greens are largely middle-class party.
Please point me at a NZ political party who aren’t. Maybe TPM?
Labour in the 21st century are not only dominated by the Professional-Managerial Class, but about half of them are right-of-centre. By any measure that doesn’t arbitrarily move the centre line around willy-nilly, so it’s always just to the right of wherever Labour drifts to. National are exactly the same, but with capitalists and rentiers funding it instead of unions and centrist NGOs. TOP are pure PMC, as are ACT.
Winston First I’m not so sure about. But they squandered any chance of growing out of Dear Leader’s shadow between 2017 and 2020 and will sink without a trace once he retires, like the Anderton and Dunne parties before them.
So I ask again, is there any NZ political party that actively organises working class people and gives us leadership positions?
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