Wow.
Just.
Wow.
Debbie destroyed Shane Jones in an angry TVNZ debate where Shane attempted to justify the draconian and harsh Hard Right policy about to be implemented as ‘democracy bro’.
Firstly, let’s be very clear here.
Just because they won the election by using race baiting hateful and divisive slogans doesn’t justify implementing that spite once you’ve won!
What Shane is arguing for is majoritarianism, not Democracy!
Fuck majoritarianism – it’s the whip of the autocrat – just because you have the power to implement draconian legislation doesn’t justify doing it!
Where the debate went way off script is when Shane started up his claim that the Māori Party represented victimisation – Debbie flame roasted his condescendence, his anti-Māori sell out position and his divisiveness.
It was just jaw dropping in its total denomination of Shane Jones intellectually, philosophically and spiritually.
Please sweet Jesus get these two on every single week!
Debbie is not be be disrespected in this manner!
Like most Kiwis, I don’t watch TVNZ Breakfast now John Campbell has left, but to be honest, The AM Show has gotten way too full of itself and I can’t eat Breakfast to that level of self satisfaction in the morning, so I’m giving TVNZ Breakfast another go and wow, I was not expecting the best political interview of the year!
I like this TVNZ Breakfast.
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Yes …and another question for Shane Jones, when he talks about democracy, is where did N.Z First get their 4 million, Act get their 6 million plus free use of a jet, and National get their 10 million + from to run their election campaigns…
Answer ..rich white men over the age of 50..
Everyone knows that more money equals more votes, and while you have a certain cotere of people who have made easy money fortunes off the back of astronomical rises in property markets and inheritance money , when others will never ever get a foot in the door, the imbalance is a walk in the park to sustain the status quo!
Trouble is brewing, and Luxon, the man who knows nothing outside of corporate buzzz words, is well out of his depth..
White men over 50? You have substantial and verifiable proof that is where all party donations come from? Nothing from the Blue Dragons? And what’s the demographic of dairy owners/tobacco peddlers? Give me a break. Why is it racism only applies to white people?
A show pony and an old hack fight it out .Neither side come away with respect
Shane Jones along with his leader like to have a “bob” both ways. He has no real credibility with his people who he is distancing himself from. There is no mana in denying your very self. Didn’t Judas do that ??
Packer might be OTT to most of your Blue rinse brigade but she definitely has mana from her supporters – I’m fairly sure Shane Jones doesn’t have any – supporters, that is. Pompous twat. I mean – you’d have to be a narcissitic C-word to release that singing video he did. cringe mofo. and then there’s the hotel expenses. wanker.
Debbie represents the new gens–70% of Māori now under 40–and Shane the old.
Ms Ngarewa Packer has made it quite clear that Pākehā and other Tauiwi are welcome in the Te Pāti Māori tent. “Ngati Tiriti” as she describes them are those that recognise that if Māori do better so will the rest of us. People that recognise we are a Pacific Nation and are ok with O Te Tiriti being a guiding document.
And Luxon is already begging for mercy…
NZ will probably be downgraded for instability even before the failure of Gnat tax policy explodes the mirage of economic competence.
If only we had an opposition that had learned the hard lessons of defeat.
Yes Stuart…
How ironic that 7 houses Luxon, who, let’s face it, has bought 7 houses solely to make free money via capital gain off the back of a rapidly rising market, thus shutting most Maori out of home ownership forever, (not to mention many others), and whose party was gifted a 10 million dollar war chest by real estate agents and various other vested interest ‘business’ men donations, is now asking Maori to give him a fair go…
What a fucking baby !! ….Bwaahhh!..cry me a river Luxo…
He just doesn’t get it…..Is he a bit simple one must ask?
Shane Seymour from NZ ACT? Tell me politics hasn’t been completely hijacked by these smug haters, representing only themselves and not us.
..And both in on the back of big money and electorate manipulation…
Follow the money trail…
Interesting how this upstart, know nothing, greenhorn newbie -‘7 houses Luxon’, backed by huge money to gain power, condescendingly says he wants to help Maori …
Wow…that’s big of him!!
Well , i think his time at the wheel will be short and not so sweet..
Basic law of physics..
‘Every action has an equal and opposite reaction’ !!
Hi Jody. If you are non- Maori, do you think The Maori Party represents you?
Plenty of non-maori support Te Pati Maori and kaupapa to their message. They are all pretty much united on that message – crony capitalism, greed and avarice is fucked. Putting ones own comfort above those who are suffering is fucked. Having laws and a system of governence that protects the above is fucked.
TPM are the only ones saying it.
If you understand Maori kaupapa you do. You clearly don’t falafel.
Yeah, GRANT and notice people like Trevor don’t like to talk about the donating of 20 million to these right-wing parties by very wealthy donors. Wealthy donors who want something, they didn’t donate millions for nothing, they want paybacks in return.
Shame Jones said today’s protest was trampling on democracy (the election results) bloody hypocrite how come he didn’t care when his mate Winstone supported the march against the vaccinations and lockdowns implemented by a political party that had a majority.
Excellent point CIP.
Good point there covid is pa.
As I often say…Parliamentary politics is just one part of the political landscape…as much as the media channels try to present otherwise. There is a whole Māori world out there that many pākehā and tauiwi would not have a clue about.
The coalition agreements state clearly the intent by Winston and David to mount a full frontal attack on Māoridom, so TPM are doing what must be done.
Shame Jones said today’s protest was trampling on democracy
If he did – then he has a very corrupt view of democracy.
It’s good that people finally realize these big donors don’t do it out of the goodness of their hearts. It’s always been the case but now more people see that a reward will be expected. Their generosity is now very suss.
Luxon is trying to get the ball-rolling as quickly as he can, before more people realize why he’s really there.
Interesting that there already appears to be leaking of cabinet papers re FPAs. The PM tries to paper over this crack with his ‘full confidence’ in his ministers pep talk.
What was leaked paints a less than complimentary picture of how the new Minister of Workplace Relations is already ignoring advice from both Treasury and the Unions. She knows so much more than they do, with her VAST experience of governing, and felt consultation with ALL parties was not needed. Power has gone to her head already.
More importantly, she’s found a way to reward those donors.
Don’t know what interview you watched but Debbie Ngawera Pakeha came off looking exactly like what she is .. a deluded Maoist moron.. keep it up Debbie you are digging your own hole . Nga mihi! Bwahaha.
You clearly watched a different interview. When you see more rolling protests you will understand who dug a deep hole for themselves, not Debbie but Shane “porn” Jones.
Agree with ya gordon walker Seemore is happy for charter schools’ policy to be called Kura Hourua but all governments departments have to be called by their English name.
More double standards from our new government WHO ARE CHERRY PICKING.
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