Seymour checkmates Winston – how will the Alliance of Arseholes actually work?

DS: "I'm going to silently sit here and tolerate this clown because I intend to rob him of everything. CL: "I'm Barbie Girl, in a Barbie World..."

ACT categorically rules out working with Winston Peters and NZ First

After iteratively nudging the door shut to any potential coalition deal involving New Zealand First, ACT Leader David Seymour has finally slammed the door shut, turned the key, fastened the deadbolt and latched the door chain.

There’s no room for Winston Peters in any Cabinet shared with David Seymour.

When asked by Stuff if he categorically rules out working with Peters after the election, Seymour replied, “Yeah, look, it’s impossible to see us sitting around the Cabinet table.”

If Labour, Greens and Māori Party are the ‘Coalition of Chaos’, ACT, National and NZ First are the ‘Alliance of Arseholes’.

The danger with Winston ruling out Labour was if ACT played the same trick and David Seymour played that card yesterday by checkmating National and ruling NZ First out of any  role in any Right Wing Government.

This is a super smart play by ACT because National insiders are secretly wanting Winston in the mix as it only starts to dawn on National that ACT are no longer a protest vote and are an actual existential threat to National.

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Line up Labour policy to Green policy and it’s 90% the same.

Labour and National vote together 70% of the time.

National and ACT policy are a billion light years away from each other.

ACT are no longer a snide political protest gesture from those whose rage leaves them impotent – they are a bonafide Right Wing Values Party and its double digit polling shows an electorate incandescent with vengeance and ready to lay a terrible reckoning upon us with a policy platform that is to the right of Caligula.

ACT won political ammunition from the woke cancel culture tactics of middle class identity activists who idiotically attempted to strangle free speech.

In doing so to calm the hysteria of the snowflake triggered, the woke signed the Left up to a culture war there was no fucking way we could win because free speech is sacrosanct you millennial clowns and the political backlash your attempts to censor it for identity politics dogma is as alienating as a cup of cold sick.

Because social media is so ubiquitous in our lives, all our timelines are a never ending algorithmically driven addiction of outrage olympics all holding their wounds up as legitimacy in a cacophony of intersectionist competition for social hierarchy.

ACT have benefited from this and because National stand for nothing more than Corporate Farmers, Bankers, Chinese Business interests, Corporate Farmers, Socially Conservative Christians, property speculators and corporate farmers, the rest of the right wing have walked away from the Grand old Tent that Don Brash and John Key held in place, and are now an existential threat to National in the immediate term, the medium term and the long term.

In fact, if National doesn’t do something very shortly, they will be dead in a decade.

Part of this is a demographic issue, there are more Gen Xers and Millennials than Boomers as a numerical voting block and National voters are getting older and older.

Part of this is a gentrification of Auckland suburbs away from Grumpy Christianity.

Part of it is rural farmers feeling ripped off by the big boys in the industry, part of it is their weird fetish with guns, part of it is the fury many Aucklanders feel at being sacrificed for the good of the country during the last lockdown.

Part of this is the culture wars the woke activists have chained us to.

Part of this is a leader like David Seymour who is magnificent on the campaign trail, so much so, he will eclipse Luxon.

A lot of it is males who voted Labour in 2020, but have been angered by the Green Party war on cis white males and have literally no idea how extreme ACT Party policy actually is.

We will know if ACT really are flexing in Tamaki where Brooke has every chance of beating local God Botherer and National Party stooge whatshisface. Internals suggest they are neck and neck in the electorate which should wake National out of their complacency.

This all adds up to an existential threat to National.

Losing the white working poor farming vote and the suburban soccer dad is an incredible double blow for National.

Internal polling suggests 1 in 5 rural voters are considering voting ACT and one in 3 Auckland voters are considering voting ACT.

Those are numbers that rob National of authority and leaves it a hollowed out movement.

If voters on the Right sense Luxon can’t do it, there will be a late protest surge to ACT that will swell them beyond 15%, cannibalising enough National vote to rob them of a possible majority.

If National fail, Luxon will be removed and the internal fight over what National is will begin again, while ACT will start operating as the de facto opposition, (which they pretty much  do already).

While National staggers to define itself in any post election loss, ACT will ruthlessly exploit their weakness and look to actually over take the National vote in 2026, which will strip National out of the main cities and leave them a South Island Party pretending to be from Masterton.

By 2029 National would be relegated to the highlands of the South Island where the cream rises and become a weaponised Grey Power without the teeth.

The Chinese Business Interests that backed National will be disappointed with their return on investment while the Billionaire class will pile into ACT’s class war agenda with the gleeful abandon of billionaires in submarines.

Even if National and ACT win a majority and form a Government, Seymour is so much smarter than Luxon, he will get all of ACTs agenda through, and then some!

In power ACT would take even more energy off National.

National’s only counter strike that will preserve the status quo and at least buy some time to consider their next move is to give Shane Jones an Epsom cup of tea in Northland.

Dilute ACT by including a shot of Winston.

Luxon flips and flops on a good day. The pressure of a campaign is a unique moment and while there are a thousand reasons to hate Labour, they are still competitive and that’s astounding.

Because a National/ACT Government is so extreme, the middle have decided to vote Labour regardless of how many times Kiri Allan shouted at useless Bureaucrats.

Sure, Kiri was hunted down by Police dogs, but let’s not pretend ACT and National won’t inadvertently start a race war with a referendum that will enforce a new Treaty on Māori eh?

Yes, Kiri’s actions were silly and frustrating, but a hard Right Government forcing a new Treaty on Māori while cutting the Ministry’s of Youth, Ethnic Affairs, Māori, Women, Pacifica AND the Human Rights Commission???

Hold the fuck up.

You have every right to be pissed at Labour and the Greens and the stupid shit they waste time on and incompetently can’t seem to manage (even with a fucking majority) B-U-T that doesn’t justify allowing Darth Vader and his Dancing Christian Stormtroopers from taking over the day care eh?


If National and ACT get in, ACT dominate Luxon and take votes off National and over take them in 2026.

If National and ACT don’t get in, ACT attack National openly and over take them in 2026.

Checkmating Luxon by ruling NZ First out is ACTs first move in taking out National.

The ‘Coalition of Chaos’ can at least work together, the ‘Alliance of Arseholes’ on the other hand are already trying to slash each others throats!


A Meeting of Mines

A meeting of Mines

CL: “Hey champ, I’ve ordered us the soup broth. It’s delicious, do you like soup broth”?

DS: “Chris, I want to discuss core roles of the executive under any new ACT/National Government…”

CL: “I’ll get us the soup broth then, are you going to Taytay in Sydney? The kids want to go so I’ve hired a private jet. Hope it’s not a Tesla eh? (laughs loudly at own joke)

DS: “…..”

CL: “Chris Bishop is also going, he wanted to get a lift with us, but come on. He was a Tobacco lobbyist, he needs CEO money to ride with my crew (laughs loudly at own joke)

DS: “…..”

CL: “Do you like Taytay? I hate how everyone suddenly became a fan after her latest album, which is amazing, don’t get me wrong, but I was a fan from day one. All these newbies sucking up to her now, where was Chris Bishop when she released her first debut in 2006?

DS: “I believe he was 22”

CL: “Are you a Swiftie?”

DS: “…..”

CL: “I think we should have sponsored Taytay’s concert you know, it would win votes with the young female electorate Judith Collins tells me I need to win over. She’s become a great mate recently, hanging out a lot at my house when she turns up unannounced. She joked she was trying to catch me sleeping. I think it was a joke, you can never tell with Judith. Do you trust Judith?”

DS: “I think she’s a treacherous radioactive swamp witch who will always knife you in the back the first chance she gets, sorry, what did you say about the State subsidising a Taylor Swift concert?”

CL: “Yeah, I could get onstage and do a karaoke with her and my daughters will be like ‘Daaaaad’. I bet I can get on The Tictok with that! Are you on The Tictok?

DS: “…..”

CL: They say you will trick me into giving you everything ACT wants including a referendum that will start a race war, but you wouldn’t do that eh?”

DS: “I’ve specifically said I will make you do that”.

CL: “Yeah, but not really right”?

DS: “I’ve specifically said I will make you do that”.

CL: “Yes and I say things I have to walk back all the time too”.

DS: “I’ve specifically said I will make you do that, and have never walked it back. My last 3 press releases have been, “Why I will force this on Chris Luxon, How I will force this on Chris Luxon and When I will force this on Chris Luxon“.

CL: “You guys are so good at press releases, when I was at Air NZ we had a great press release person. Do you think your guys would run the press releases when we take over?

DS: “…..”

CL: “Oh here’s the soup. I love our weekly catch ups over lunch, it’s really helping me understand the man I’ll be working with”.

DS: “…..”



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  1. ACT a bona fide right-wing values party? Only if you synonymize “right-wing values” with globalist neoliberalism and unbridled individualism. And surely you’ve been around long enough to know there’s a lot more to the Right than that, Martyn. What would GK Chesterton think of the ACT party?

    • I would imagine any Trump supporters inside A.C.T. are trying to find a potential anti-globalist replacement for Seymour.

  2. Martyn – Politicians are politicians, meaning if they are kissing babies, they are stealing their lollypops…so, do not always believe what they say

  3. Seymour’s not that smart, he let an important vote go unchallenged because he was too busy inflating his ego at the media.

    • There is only a mythical Rubicon.

      There should only ever be one objective during an election campaign and that is to promote your political agenda and place your ideas in front of the voters.
      Once the voters have spoken you concern yourself with implementing your policies, however incremental that may turn out to be.

      Once elected you serve the people, all the people and you should never forget that. If the people vote and they get a green/act government then the greens and act must serve the people of NZ. All the people, all the time.

      But reality is…… once elected they often govern for their group, act in the best interest of their Rentseekers…..

  4. So given a choice between remaining in opposition and doing some sort of 3 way deal however unpalatable which option do you think they will choose? Obviously this tactic is meant to keep voters from voting NZF but if NACT get 49% then the circus will be well and truly in town!

  5. There is supposedly a Populist faction inside the A.C.T. Party. Who are its leaders?

    Does this situation mean Winston could end up going with Labour again, even though he said he wouldn’t?

    • Well no female leader this time, so who knows, Winston got really ticked off when the PM got pregnant–and it was none of his bloody business! And he tried to knife her on the way out in the lead up to the 2020 election with a letter drafted for the Governor General, so he may not be too popular with Labour either.

      NZF are an appalling lot, though Matt King’s Democracy NZ might siphon off the worst of them now. NZF did do us the service of the Provincial Growth Fund–PGF which is what Governments should be doing all the time anyway if they were not neo liberal.

      • Prithee tell Tiger, in what way are NZF an appalling lot? And are they more appalling than your murderous Marxist heroes?

      • Just looking at a leaflet for Democracy NZ. Who is his dentist? His teeth don’t seem the extra white I expect from the great humdingers entering politics. Ewe! Not good enough! Now where else do I look for election fodder for me in my woolly coat?

    • Winston said he wouldn’t work with people who had lied to him? Has Hipkins lied to him? Lots of wriggle room. Winston chooses his words carefully and when power and baubles are on the table he’ll do what’s best for Winston (and the country).

  6. No worse then the the Labour/Greens/TPM would work.
    IN fact i think that N/A/NZF would work better together.

  7. I see that Seymour had flipped a bit this morning and said he won’t rule out working with Peters. Doesn’t really want him in cabinet but hey if needs be???.
    Slippery prick.

  8. Once the votes are counted. I am sure David and Winston will be happy to talk.

    They both disagree with the Left more than they disagree each other.

  9. It simple – National/Act government with NZ in a confidence and supply arrangement (if needed) or the other way around. Maybe Peters as Foreign Minister outside of cabinet. Much will depend on the final wash up.

    Seymour alluded to this yesterday.

    It’s not hard, really.

    • Do you think Winston will do that? I think he may well want something else that could appease all.
      I hope he wants a legacy that is meaningful. Just what that may look like is beyond me. Baubles of office?? Come on Winston. You can do better.

  10. The National Party is a coalition of two sub-parties from way back in history at around the 1920’s and was formed to defeat and destroy the Farmers Union to then replace that Union with a limp-dick biscuit-nibblers and tea-sippers federation to simply exploit our farmers of the money that was rightfully theirs which was syphoned off to God only know’s where. Perhaps the 14 multi-billionaires, the 3118 multi-millionaires with individual wealth exceeding $50 million each and the four foreign owned banks stealing away with $180 a second in net profits made up of YOUR money could help to supply that kind of information. Perhaps so could Maori in prison, the homeless, the hungry kids, our suiciding farmers… you know the ones? The ones you hate because your stupid, now pass the sausages, carrots and potatoes.
    The National party, from that day forward, became our primary industry saboteurs and exploiters and to this day, nothing has changed. Look it up.
    The National Party could never, ever afford to have that become general knowledge once released to the designer moron-class they built to protect their fiefdoms and urban corporate cronies who, with all their easy money knew where the best brothels, coke and booze dens were. Why am I thinking of the Canterbury Club right now?
    The National Party’s designer parasite, roger douglas, was hidden in plain site inside the reformative Labour party being led into the 21st century by a defence lawyer named David Lange. Because there was a very real fear that old crimes and swindles would be laid bare in the process Lange had to go.
    Here comes roger swingin’ his little axe.
    douglas befriended his target then when the time was right, he stabbed Lange in the back after gaining support from his already lobbied caucus cronies. There are books and better writing on that subject than mine so look it up.
    ( Kirk. A titan defender of The People. Dead. Rod Donald Leader of The Green Party which was becoming pro farmer. Dead. David Lange. Pro Humanitarian and Labour Leader and Prime Minister. All dead in their prime. Funny that.)
    Douglas gathered about him what was to be to all intents and purposes a mafia, a gangster clan. And their job was to run protection rackets for the rich and to quell any dissent while the already rich urban cannibals feasted on our innocence and gullibilities aided and abetted by a now well oiled pro neo-liberal fascist clan of far right money, fetishist Vampires. Vote National and the Douglas-Sleazemore Petrie dish escapee Natzo-ACT clones and you’re a terminal fool.
    William S.Burroughs.
    Words of Advice for Young People.
    The funked up version which is beautiful.
    Words of Advice for Young People

    • A coalition that doesn’t include,the parties of chaos,is far superior on all fronts.
      A coalition of the chaotic Labour/Green/TPM is terrifying,its spine chilling.
      After 6 years of dereliction of duty there is no way anyone of sound mind could vote Labour/Green.

      • Bob blah, Bob blah, Bob blah.
        Bob want’s a return to a dictatorship government, just like Keys National government.

    • Country boy you have said what I have been afraid to say about David Lange and Rodger Douglas. We all wanted Muldoon gone but what a hollow victory that was. It took a few years to find out that Douglas, Prebble and co were like termites burrowing away until they got what they wanted , a very weakened true Labour caucus who now had been overtaken by ACT ideology.These traitors set the poorest in NZ on a fast track to abject poverty from which many families have never recovered. Unfortunately the chickens have all come home to roost. The many years of trickle down economics have done their worst. If this government changes in October any gains made will soon be lost once again on the experiment of a NACT government. 50 years of right wing theory needs more than 6 years to put right. It beggars belief that the farmers are voting ACT after all their subsidies were lost by ACT policies. It beggars belief that many young voters believe in a right wing policy of greed and alienation of the poorest . It also beggars belief that people are willing to risk cuts to social services for a measly tax cut. Ask yourself why both the teachers and nurses have accepted their pay raises, they know that with a NACT government there will be no pay raises. The rich will get richer and bugger the poor and bottom feeders.

      • Neo-liberalism will take more that six years to undo, especially when the Labour party is Neo-liberal to the core, little different from National.

  11. I agree Labour /Green are 90 percent the same and are both equally as bad for NZ if they get power again.
    Labour when run by Clark and her team were good until they became too controlling so it is not Labour at fault but these politicians that call themselves Labour like . Martyn has said this many times and I would agree .

  12. After the worst government of my lifetime, the coming backlash was obvious. NACT is going to happen whether you like it or not. “Let’s do this!” Oh wait. Erm, how about “Buckle up!”?

    • You haven’t been round long if you think this lot is bad. I can hark back to Muldoon when even without social media we knew the country was fucked and then it was followed by Act in drag followed by the mother of all budgets.

      • I remember Muldoon. His “Think Big” projects automatically make him better than this Labour government that achieved literally nothing of value.

        • Yes we would still have Marsden Point if the 80’s LINO government hadn’t privatized it, and if Ardern had moved to prevent its loss.

          • Privatisation is exactly what Nat Act would do and you know it. And they are so devoted to “.the market” that they would not have stepped in just like Ardern. Again you know this. I don’t care what they said in opposition. Luxon wants “the markets” to own it all . That includes roads

            • Very likely – that’s what neoliberal parties do! That’s their shtick. But left-wing parties are supposed to oppose and repeal such measures – that’s supposed to be their shtick. Or at least it used to be, before they ran away with radical identity politics.

        • All of his Think Big projects are desperately needed now. Electrification of the rail network, energy independence via C.T.L./G.T.L. synthetic gasoline, expanded domestic oil refining, additional electricity generation, increased steel/aluminium production, domestic fertiliser production, support for other import substitution etc.

          His mistake was using excessive government borrowing to fund it all. He should have sought direct private investment until the state had more funds.

      • And that just shows how bad the current government is. The Ardern-Hipkins kakistocracy is the culmination of 50 years of poor government.

  13. And how many voters have you and your fellow hoplophobes pushed into the arms of ACT? Own it, you did this!

  14. Pete Townshend, Rodger, what a violent,,he punched me, Rodger, is a violent man. Rodger, Pete, why did you throw your guitar at me.

  15. I expect short posts from you, so you lost me.

    Marama Davidson after being hit post Posie Parker was just straight truth. ‘Woke’ complicates the Left you say. I.e. minorities being persecuted? You say it’s the main thing for the Left. Among a section. If Sanders or Reich never address it why should we talk about ‘woke’. You’re talking about yourself. ‘Anti-woke’ complicates our apposite cause.

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