Poll: Country divided on race relations
It seems the country is divided on race relations with almost half the people surveyed in our latest 1News Verian poll saying the situation has got worse.
Parliament is known for the rough and tumble of politics but is also described at times as verging on race-baiting. Now, as the election campaign nears, it’s feared issues like co-governance will ramp up race politics.
“National’s position’s really clear, we don’t believe in the co-governance of public services, we believe we are one country,” National leader Christopher Luxon said.
“I’ve acknowledged this in the whole time that I’ve been Prime Minister, that we need to make sure we’re bringing people along with us,” Prime Minister Chris Hipkins said.
The question in the latest poll asked: “Do you believe race relations are getting worse or better or staying about the same in New Zealand?”
Only 14% say it’s getting better, 35% believe it’s about the same, and 47% say race relations are getting worse. The rest don’t know or refused to say.
That’s why this didn’t really help…
The Green Party is vowing to make sure all stolen land is returned to tangata whenua by introducing legislation including removing a historical claims deadline for breaches of Te Tiriti o Waitangi and establishing a process for private land.
…look, it’s a great policy (although I disagree with the changes to the Public Works Act), the economic backbone of this country is stealing Māori land and never paying it back, but the Greens inability to read the room just highlights the weird bubble world they live in.
People are screaming for solutions to the cost of living crisis, many pakeha feel that te reo has suddenly been foisted upon them, we are tearing each to pieces over bloody bilingual signs and here are the Greens trundling off down some cul-de-sac handing political ammunition to ACT because that’s all this does, hand ACT a cudgel with which to beat the bejesus out of the Greens while terrifying white folk the Greens are going to take all their land off them!
Syd Jackson would always say that Pakeha feared Māori doing to them what they did to Māori and that was why there was always such resistance to anything that enabled Māori.
The manner in which so many white NuZilnders (and recent migrants) view the Maori Party gaining 5% is hilarious.
They seem to think that ACT AND National can shit all over Māori and there be no political backlash to that!
There seems to have been a belief amongst some of our whiter friends that the 420 000 non voters (many of whom are Māori) were simply going to sit the next election out.
There seems to have been a belief that Māori should just allow ACT to generate a referendum that would renegotiate the Treaty and then just foist it upon them with no complaint whatsoever!
What about our 180 year history suggests to you Māori will accept that?
White Kiwis are treating Māori angry at years of abuse the way a parent who has beaten their children behaves at Christmas Dinner, with unforgivable rage that the beaten children are playing up at Christmas Dinner and not wanting to play nice for the occasion.
You can’t keep shitting on a people and get angry when they don’t want to be shat on any longer!
Let’s be very clear, ACTs call for a referendum to redefine the Treaty and then simply force that redefined Treaty upon Māori will start a race war.
Game it out:
- David Seymour cuts a deal with National in 2023 and launches its purge of every Maori political win since the Treaty was signed.
- Shutting down every co-governance arrangement would provoke absolute outrage within Māoridom and spark a vast number of immediate legal cases which would jam down any legislative process as every single decision made after Parliament passed the law ending co-governance would become challenged. Political protests would erupt around the country and local councils would find local resistance as Māori groups universally set up occupations of shared governance assets.
- Likewise, forcing a redefined Treaty using nothing more than a majority referendum will immediately provoke an enormous backlash.
- The New National/ACT Government would then attempt to find anyone within Māoridom who would willingly negotiate new Treaty ‘provisions’ with them. No one within Māoridom would willingly negotiate these and so the New National/ACT Government, while dealing with increasingly violent weekly protests in the street, would announce that they are universally negotiating these new provisions on behalf of Māoridom. The news that not only has the New National/ACT Government ended co-governance but are now redefining the entire Treaty by themselves inspires all out violent protest and the New National/ACT Government respond with increasing use of special terror laws and paramilitary Police Mark Mitchell promised would just be used against gangs to keep a lid on the escalating fury within Māoridom at the loss of their political rights.
- Increasingly global media attention is scathing towards the New National/ACT Government as NZ quickly becomes a pariah on the world stage.
- Donald Trump calls the New National/ACT Government ‘wise’.
- A vast and angry Hikoi makes its way to Wellington refusing the authority of Parliament to redefine the Treaty.
- Protestors refuse to disperse, the New National/ACT Government order Police to open fire on protestors.
- This sends issues spiralling out of control.
David can be as much of a smug intellectual as he likes, but selling raw meat racism to the angry whites with policy promises that would lead to a race war isn’t clever politics, it’s fucking dangerous and it’s fucking ugly.
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So Luxon doesn’t believe in co governance. There in lies the complete bullshit coming out of National. There were architects of co governance not that long ago and now want to race bait because they don’t really have anything else. Oh apart from literal rivers of shit in the country side.
Geniune question, how were National the archetect of co-governance?
Because they and ACT were! Genuine question, how the fuck don’t you know that?
Martyn, I am no wiser. But as a guess was it because John Key signed up to the indigenous rights UN treaty?
For ‘some State run services’. It would be interesting to know what ‘some’ means and what are not in the ‘some’.
I think the biggest problem is that the “Maori” answers don’t encompass and acknowledge the disquiet that the 85% have.
This latest Greens party policy is but the latest example.
With many generations of the 85% calling New Zealand home and consider themselves “born of this land”, the genie of separate racial entities based on a land occupation timeline is colonial thinking.
All New Zealand races needs to come together on common ground for you are right, there will be barricades, with police and local militia will stare down Maori militia. Where do our armed forces fit into this civil war?
If civil war does break out will any of the 5 eyes partners (or Fijian, Chinese, Indonesian, Taiwanese, etc.) land troops here under the UN peacekeeping mantle?
What will New Zealand look like after the civil war? One side vanquished like the Tamils or Armenians? Or a stronger and inclusive society for all races?
“Where do our armed forces fit into this civil war?” It might be relevant and worth thinking about that Maori make up a very large proportion of our armed services.
D J S
It’s largely a complete fantasy & will never happen. Maori aspirations best allies are the rule of law & lawyers, not terrorists & terrorism.
It’s because National and ACT voters think Maori have too much rights these days.
I want all citizens to have the same rights and responsibilities Millsy. How about you?
…why should they have any more than “the rights & privileges of British subjects” ?
Recall the popular slogan from the local civil rights movement: “The treaty is a fraud.”
Is there actually any evidence that black workers are at all interested in splitting the government in two along racial lines? The only real beneficiaries so far have been a tiny clique of tribal capitalists.
This supposed “race relations disaster” is thoroughly contrived from upon high. There is barely any animosity between ordinary people, and there hasn’t been for decades.
If the collapse in the living standards of all working people had been prevented, nobody would even be having this discussion. The pre-1940 settlements might have been the end of it, and probably should have been.
I agree with your observation … “This supposed “race relations disaster” is thoroughly contrived from upon high. There is barely any animosity between ordinary people, and there hasn’t been for decades.” Not sure about the rest.
Stephen I thought you lived in an old hut in the Ureweras? Have you moved back to town? Is this where you are meeting all these pakeha?
“David Seymour’ is a pakeha!! His appearance and narrative gives that away! Like the idiom “If it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck then it is a duck”
So it is all about peoples opinions as to whether they are Maori or not? DS has Maori blood and I understand one of his ancestors signed the treaty. I thought you woke types were all about accepting everyone’s self declared identity
Why is race relations so bad after nearly six years of Labour at the helm ?
I think the answer is Labour have been underhanded in their dealings in their policis that effect Maori. 3 Waters is a prime example where to keep their Maori caucus happy they try to take power from the general public and give it to an elite group of Maori. One problem is because they are so poorly lead they keep forget Maori in other dealing so they finish up upsetting both sides of the fence .Now they are upsetting their potential partners by doing the same think with wealth and tax which is making both sides unhappy .
If National /Act do get into power they will do what they have done before and deal with the leaders and let them take care of the trouble makers .
Labour/Greens are the very reason why race relations are at such a low point. When you choose to view everything through a racial lens, everything is racist. This Government is the most racist we’ve had in a very long time (no one talks more about race than the Left).
Aah Zelda….I think you might like to consider this fine land of the long white cloud already had a name long before some other boat people from a land half a world away decided, quite pompously in my opinion, to give it a new name, one that had little to do with the ‘new discovery’ (ha!) and something more to do with the land from whence they came a sailing.
I think National and ACT are more likely to halt race melt down.
Labour and Greens blinkered, eulogised, idealised and revisionist approaches to all things woke Maori and their propaganda across the public sector, dual health, 3 Waters, are creating division, and also amongst Maori themselves who are not all woke.
“Race relations in NZ are at their worst ….”
Now, I wonder why that is…?
Andrew some of the dumb naive comments on this site and you wonder why race relations are worse.
Perpetual leases are a racist and controlling the native’s policy, implemented by a colonial government.
Why is Māori land subjected to this policy when Pakeha land isn’t. who are the biggest thieves in NZ? the governments who stole and sold much of our land using the pen.
“forcing a redefined Treaty using nothing more than a majority referendum will immediately provoke an enormous backlash.”
Forcing the Māoriification of the country without a mandate will provoke an enormous backlash as well! It’s already started unfortunately, thanks to Ardern.
Meng Foon will calm everyone down. If he hasn’t already been fired.
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