Johns Hopkins Sparks Backlash by Defining Lesbians As ‘Non-Man’
Outrage has been expressed online at Johns Hopkins University over its non-binary-inclusive definition of “lesbian” in its glossary of LGBTQ+ terms.
The Baltimore-based university, a major hub of medical research in the U.S., maintains an extensive glossary of definitions for terms relevant to the broad LGBTQ+ community, which is updated as the subject of gender and sexual identity changes.
On Monday, the glossary’s new definition of “lesbian” came under attack as the university defined the term as “a non-man attracted to non-men.” The update is meant to be inclusive of non-binary individuals who might still identify as lesbians.
I thought initially that this was a very funny hoax, but apparently it’s real.
The new woke word conclave just erased lesbians.
They are now ‘non-men’.
Welcome to our Brave New World.
Has it occurred to anyone that lesbians liked being women and not non-men?
Isn’t the ability of men to demand we accept them as women the very definition of male privilege?
This is inclusion by exclusion, and Lesbians are the ones being excluded???
This entire Trans debate is officially unhinged.
Pure Trans Joy indeed.
If the DIAs new Ministry of Truth is built, it will create the bureaucratic infrastructure that will allow the woke to complain about any criticism of this type of culture war, so there’s that to look forward to.
Remember, if you have ANY issue with Lesbians being erased, the Disinformation Project will come after you!
Which brings me to NZ Pride Week in Schools this year.
I’m the most liberal human in the world, I fought for equality legislation and marriage in NZ for the Gay Community, I don’t care who you love as long as it is consensual and all power to you living your truth!
I do have deep misgivings about the way the Trans community and their woke fourth wave feminists and non-binary activists have advanced their cause with such cancel culture militancy because I think it provides ammunition to the far right and I have deep misgivings about the erasure of women to accomodate the Trans community, but I support their right to exist and have the same agency we all do in a democracy, but how the christ is this anything other than overt sexualisation…
I thought Pride Week at schools was celebrating diversity, I had no idea it had mutated into this???? Drag zoom panels???
Look, I’m fine with Drag Story Time, hell my own daughter has gone to those, but Drag panels over zoom with really over the top sexuality is bewildering to me.
This is state sponsored and in the schools via InsideOUT – I had no idea that was how extreme it was.
I’m not sure what the fuck is happening any longer.
I think the Education Minister has some explaining to do.
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Yep. It exposes the basic misogyny and homophobia (or is that lesbophobia?0 underlying the gender ID ideology and activism.
It’s not surprising that many of us who are gender critical feminists are lesbian.
Broadly speaking there are two types of woke. The Martyn Luther type and The Black Panther type. The aesthetic left reject entirely broad based political movements lifting up the poor. If you want to know about the woke just read Martyn’s Blogs which basically reads as the woke being the intellectuals Kiwis deserve.
The thing about politics by that I mean everyone that isn’t ACT has gone so far to the right that everyone to the left looks like the woke. Voting Allsorts of nonsense in. You got economically left basically running up the polls and everyone else into ideological nationalism and socialism.
Infact politics, education and institution are dominated by the right. Does that mean we stop voting for Labour, Green and Maori Party’s ? No! That’s crazy of course we give Labour unlimited power to progress taxation.
This is an opportunity for people to work and be free and to collaborate with others that we just don’t have anywhere else. I know it’s shit right now there’s nothing much we can do about John Hopkins University Hospital and trannies.
But what we have to understand about University and the corporate media is that they’re not leftwing at all. They are as privatised, as deregulated and financialised as humanly possible.
There’s a lot missing from university like your friends. A lot of the time students learn more from watching there friends than from a professor. Those interactions are gone when you have to speak as though you’re apart of a religious cult. And everyone bare ACT have been voting for gendered speech because fundamentally they are losing the economics war to the economic left. Pitty that huh.
It’s one thing to be lectured at about some suicide rate or domestic violence stat but it’s another thing to try and take over the states direct day to day interactions, not just when you’re monitoring things from Twitter but also when you’re sitting with friends having McDonald’s and talking.
More non-sense. The erasure of non-men is a feeble response to the erasure of non-women who think with their penises.
The patriarchy rolls on it seems…as sweaty, gross males everywhere always wanted.
To paraphrase comedian Ricky Gervais…“are you into old school women with uteruses or the trendy new ones with cocks and balls?…”
Politicised Lesbian women are some of the staunchest allies in class struggles I have ever met in a lengthy political activist career. This is blatant misogyny and misuse of language and meaning.
I support all exploited and oppressed people in our capitalist society on a class left basis. I defend the rights of trans people to live their lives unharrassed, and I also support the 50% of the population–women–having their own spaces and hard fought rights defended.
Trans activists are playing a classic divisive card here. Trans women are trans women as far as I am concerned, and are so regarded by medical science.
Trans women are men. I am done with lying to appease this crowd who refer to me as a non man
Isnt it interesting then that the political parties pushing gender woo (Labour, Green) are mainly supported by women and “sorry to be men” cuck males?
Who empowered the woke?
The left.
Conservatives don’t buy the alphabet soup, and mainly support Posie Parker in defending women’s rights.
How insane have the left submales become where their insipid fear of their own masculinity has become the misogyny they literally beat in to women.
Mental.
Kind of a weird comment. I supported the Greens, and still may, because if subsea methane clathrate deposits and the methane in Siberian / Canadian permafrost all methane burp at the same time, it’s game over. That’s a second Permian-Triassic extinction event, in our lifetimes. And the Greens were the only ones to even know what the fuck I was talking about. What does any of this matter on a dead planet? And every party in Parliament supports this misogynist homophobic bullshit. But sure. Cucks. Cool story bro.
It’s a shock to the left to realize this misogyny is them: urban, well groomed eunuchs like Shaw, with the best of intentions of course , and Tiger Mountains sweaty gross male working class bloke is nowhere to be seen or more likely to be backing the women.
The stats don’t lie on who backs Labour and the greens and hence their gender psycho babble : well off women, a small and diminishing number of frightened men and the young eg: not working class blokes.
No. Shaw gets the problem, as do plenty of others in the Greens. It’s just that he isn’t prepared to throw away everything he’s worked for for decades to respond to a stupid social trend that will be over in a few years and which has nothing to do with him. And he also understands that none of this matters on a dead planet. Basically he has priorities. You’re not required to agree with those priorities.
I don’t know why you’d refer to him as a “Eunuch”… you seem to have a weird fixation about that. I mean, he’s got a wife and kids.
It’s really not news that the Greens don’t attract working class people. It’s a problem.
Yes yes Shaw gets it so much he’s co leader of the party pushing identity politics as a white cis male who according to his co leader must be responsible for all violence.
At the end of the day you are still replying on men to win the day.
Relying*
Well we all chose our own priorities.
I have no control over the Siberian/Canadian methane in the permafrost and I am sure James doesn’t either.
I don’t trust politicians who have fallen for an insane ideology, that harms women and children and is authoritarian to boot.
Frankly I wouldn’t trust the Greens or Labour to run a bath.
I think it is reasonably well known James Shaw isn’t a eunuch btw.
I think all this woke female stuff victimises women of all kinds once more. They are always having to agitate for rights and now this divisive mood has them fighting each other as well as bland, sexist society. Somehow there are no winners here as there is a sort of compulsory gay-trans-colour puritanism.
I still maintain that there is only one way for genuine Progressives to deal with the bizarre Poststructuralist ideas of the centrist Liberal Particularists — and that is to refuse to be sucked into such absurd debates, which are ultimately just a grand distraction from the major issues (i.e. class issues).
Simply stating that your organisation believes in modern hard science — and outright rejects their attempts to abandon the scientific method, which they substitute for subjective idealism, and the anti-Enlightenment ‘chaos theory’ — is the start and the end of the debate. They were already roundly defeated in the ‘Science Wars’ of the 1990s, purely upon this basis.
It is standard dogma in the world at large that a lesbian is a woman who is both sexually and romantically, and often emotionally, attracted to other women
Sadly, could see that one coming a mile away.
In true ‘critical theory’ thinking, once your minority is accepted as mainstream you get punched up at by any minority under you. Sorry Lesbians, like women and now Gay men, your rights will be taken off of you henceforth. What a glorious rainbow world we live in.
Seriously, this year is the first time I have looked at pride month and thought what a self promoting, political crock of shite. The word ‘Pride’ is now an Oxymoron. What does the Community now have to be proud of?
The gorgeous Shaneel and various women beaters? Puberty blocked kids who wake up at 25 and discover their bodies or fertility has been mutilated? Women no longer safe in their own spaces? Men being put into women’s prisons? Yep, so much to be proud for just now. The Pride pioneers of the 70’s and 80’s must be so sad at this turn of events.
@Fantail, agree 100%
“What a glorious rainbow world we live in”
No longer, the modern pride flag’s symbolism is that of an insurgent triangle of intersectional grievances forcing it’s way into the old universalist rainbow.
Thanks Martyn
Women can no longer define themselves it seems
Only men can define themselves and women
Notice how the gay men are allowed to be men?
No non women for them
And also notice how the stunningly brave activists (our taonga ) come as a braying mob for women like J K Rowling, Julie Bindel and Kathleen Stock, while totally ignoring the likes of Douglas Murray and other gay guys who are equally scornful of gender ideology .If that’s not a straight out case of misogyny I don’t know what is
It’s not just JH and it’s happening here too.
https://theministryhasfallen.substack.com/p/update-gendering-gendering-gendering
“National Library blogged that they have adopted Homosaurus, an international LGBTQ+ Linked data vocabulary to use in special collections. Note this is not for all collections but still. Subject headings are the way in which material is catalogued or tagged with key words. While the blog suggests universal approval from the LGBTQ+ community, Homosaurus, in fact, presents an ideological set of definitions that are deep in denial about biological reality and exclusive same sex attraction1. Women and Lesbians are both defined as those who self-identify into those categories. Many women and lesbians are reporting they find such definitions dehumanising, misogynistic and homophobic. So deep runs the trench between Homosaurus and practically everyone in the world, the broader term for women (that is, the term that women is considered a subset of, is listed as gender identity, rather than say human or adults or female persons. According to Homosaurus, women is no longer a human but an idea.”
Credit to Garwhoungle who is the best writer on this topic in NZ right now.
It is not the trans debate that is unhinged Martyn, it is the trans rights activists.
Gender critical WOMEN are only asking to be known as women, mothers who breast feed and give birth. And some of these WOMEN are same sex attracted ie they like WOMEN.
Meanwhile one of the pure trans jou crowd got diversion for repeatly punching a 70 year old WOMAN in the head giving her a very black eye and a fractured eye socket.
Some of us WOMEN have had a guts full of this insane, authoritarian gender ideology movement
And btw, thanks for posting
@Anker agreed 100%
Trans activists are not only erasing lesbians, continuing the trend of erasing woman (breeders, womb-havers etc). They are also redefining ‘gay’ (see the second definition) who like lesbians, are SAME SEX ATTRACTED not same gender attracted.
This divisive and performative so called activism is misogyny and homophobia rebranded to be socially acceptable.
Further it is transphobic. According to the activists anyone can simply opt into being being trans by saying so. Imagine how patronising that is for genuine transsexuals. Transitioning is often long, painful and difficult on many levels. It is appropriate for only a tiny number of individuals yet there is now a flood of righteous pretenders into the ‘aesthetic of queerness’ seeking attention and social clout.
“ I am pretty happy with my definition of cat……not a dog”
This just has to Ardern’s fault, right Bob the First and Frank the Tank? Somehow someway she got to them
Wheel. While Ardern may have been complicit, for her own reasons, Greens seem to have initiated and led the gender onslaught impacting upon women, underscored by a petty irrational prejudice against white heterosexual men, to the point of craziness with innocent children being subjected to non-scientific potentially damaging dogma within the education system.
What does that have to do with a university in the US? My point was that there is a whole lot going on in the world in general that those doting on National and Act make out like it is all driven by Labour. Crime is up in loads of countries, housing is an issue in loads of countries, and absolutely stupid dumb arse people have far too much sway. Social change is being driven by the internet, with policy following behind, and economically capitalism seems to be a serfdom.
No Wheel, the definition of a cat is not not a dog.
The definition of a cat is a small domestic feline
I’m 100% for equal rights but this doesn’t feel like it does it.
I kind of feel like society are going back in time and are undermining women’s rights again.
People can describe themselves however they feel.
As long as I know what’s under the hood before i pay the restaurant bill.
It’s hard to believe people are seriously devoting their precious time and energy to defining/defending how they identify themselves for others. Wouldn’t people be better off if they spent the time and energy developing themselves? How specifically categorised does one want to be, and wouldn’t it be easier and more satisfying to simply feel a part of the whole while maintaining the integrity and confidence in your individuality?
Sounds sensible and eminently doable. Maybe we will come around to seeing our way through the fog of faux indignation and hyperbole to the deeper problems that face those involved in these movements particularly, and alleviate those, and before then as of right now, think of the way that human society is deteriorating under pressure from venture capitalists whose ventures look away from bountiful earth laid waste, for adventures in space. Have I rounded off your proposition Jkau? If you want to correct or add something please do. We need all practical, philosophical thought around.
Thank you Greywarbler for contributing further to the thought. More clarity in the fog is always welcome. We already have the opportunity to experience deeper adventures right here on earth.
Thanks Martyn for going through this discussion with examples so we understand this situation better. I find it frightening now it has been taken up by extremists who are unhappy about everything it seems. I have come across people against 5G and noticed that having taken a stance against that, which was not unreasonable, they seem to have enlarged their space for concern to include anyone who has the spiel of current emotional syndicates.
Looks like this has been taken down from the site with a note that it was ‘unauthorised’ and being ‘reviewed’
https://studentaffairs.jhu.edu/lgbtq/education/glossary/
Don’t worry. This madness is coming to an end as witnessed by the many jurisdictions, corporations and brave individuals who are standing up, shutting down, reversing, undoing and legislating against this dangerous and harmful delusion that seeks to overturn the hard fought rights of women, biology and the protection of children.
Lil on New Zealand is as always a tad behind everyone else who have come to their senses.
Hold the line.
And in the process, creating mass progroms against the LGBT community.
There is no community.
The L and the B don’t really have anything in common, no one trusts the B and the rest are just silly.
You’re just a religious Christian who believes LGBT is a sin because a dead Palestinian carpenter told you so.
Did you not read the article Millsy? An Iand D officer at John Hopkins University just described lesbians as non men. Do you see a problem with that? The person who describes lesbians as non men is a man. He presents as a women and calls himself a lesbian. Take that in, a man who declares himself to be a lesbian. He is a liar
Given that you are sounding more and more like Phyllis Schafly, Mary Whitehouse, and Patricia Bartlett every single, day, I couldnt give a fucking rats ass about your opinion.
I note a rejection of Pride amongst under 18s in my liberal circle. This is largely due to trans ideology being in conflict with same sex youth. A close family member was going down the trans path and instead of validation was presented with gentle information to alternatives such as being same sex. Anecdotally many of the previous trans cohort are now firmly rejecting the T and choosing LGB.
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