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Shaneel Lal: David Seymour backs freedom of speech – unless he disagrees
David Seymour claims to be a freedom of speech advocate but I question whether he believes that or if he is only interested in protecting speech that he agrees with.
There are several times the Act Party leader attempted to censor people he disagreed with.
…let’s make a compliment sandwich.
Let’s say something positive about Shaneel. Then a criticism and let’s finish it up with a another compliment, thus making it the compliment sandwich.
Let’s start with a compliment.
Shaneel Lal is 1000% right! As this Blog has gleefully pointed out many times, the extreme hypocrisy of ACT to champion free speech when it suits them has been on display several times and Lal righteously identifies those times.
On top of that was the time David vandalised a Māori health initiative during the pandemic for shits and giggles and once claimed the fact Christmas Day was a Statutory holiday was proof positive NZ lived in a totalitarian state.
Merry Christmas Mr Jackbooted Scrooge.
Add to that his race baiting conflict policies that will start a race war in this country, and there is much to gloriously roast Far Right ACT for.
However, where the living Christ does Shaneel Lal get off lecturing anyone on hypocrisy of free speech???
They led a mob that literally, figuratively and metaphorically ran a women from the town square after assaulting her.
They then claimed that mob violence was ‘Pure Trans Joy’ after claiming for weeks they were the victim and under threat.
They specifically used the ‘Thugs Veto’ to silence an opponent and then has the audacity to lecture others on free speech?
Fuck me backwards. That is an extraordinary position to attempt.
Now let’s end on a compliment, I like Lal’s reading glasses in their profile picture.
That was the compliment vegan sandwich with no bread.
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Seymour is a legend and soon to be deputy prime minister.
A legend? Is he? He hasn’t done anything much at all with the exception of the right to die stuff which granted was positive. Gifted a seat by National, somehow immune to the “ hasn’t had a real job” bs, and an absolute dick for large parts of COVID. I think the jury is well and truly still out.
While I tend to agree I have some doubts about the right-to-die stuff. From what I have seen it seems to be working well though although I suspect the motive was more about boomers wanting to get an early inheritance than concern for people’s dignity at the end of life. Maybe that shows my total lack of trust in him which is not an unreasonable view to hold.
Couldn’t agree more Wheel . Anyone thinking he’s the next deputy PM is retarded.
Don’t forget that ACT gets a lot of support from the gun lobby, so if the Nats get back in, they will invariably need ACT, and ACT will invariably be beholding to the gun lobby, so what will the bottom line be, in coalition negotiations? A slight tweak to the rules perhaps, just to make everything fair and efficient, and then hey presto, you will once again, be able to legally hoard a stockpile of machine guns and military style weapons to your hearts content. Weapons designed for war, with the sole purpose of kiling people quickly and efficiently. This is just so sensible.. what could possibly go wrong.. happy days.. bring on the comet..
I wouldn’t be voting for ACT, but for their firearms policies.
Don’t hassle Shaneel, they’re a hero for standing up against a bunch of Nazis!
They were not Nazis and Parker should have been able to speak and the trans-gender movement just should have backed off.
I am for free speech. But it now appears the the trans-gender movement regards their rights as superior to women wanting to hear Posie Parker.
I am not and have never been against trans people. I simply want to be able to be in a women’s only meeting without anyone with a penis, is there anything wrong with this?
This however I think is a fashion of sorts – and it isn’t that some young people feel they belong in another gender, but hang on let that happen later in life.
https://plainsight.nz/young-new-zealanders-are-being-rushed-into-medical-gender-transition/
Sorry Kim but Lal and co are the Nazi’s in this instance.
You don’t know what Nazism is, do you? Don’t you know the Nazis had a policy of exterminating all gender & sexually diverse people?
The far right MUST be fought!
What does Nazis have to do with taking the word “woman” out of government policy and language? Seriously what should anyone do about Nazis.
Nazi need to told they’re not welcome in society. That’s what, Sam.
Career advice for young people. Abuse anyone online who disagrees with you, rally a mob against a group of women and you too can have a citizen award and nzherald column.
Yep Tui that is about it.
I can’t remember any examples myself of Seymour opposing free speech or attempting to silence or remove the ability for expression of a viewpoint or opinion. Certainly if he disagreed with it he would say so and even better likely and concisely and coherently explain why. But yes couldn’t agree more with your summation of the bat-shit crazy scenes that were almost celebrated by our mainstream media as a moral victory to be highlighted and shown to the world – the ultimate virtue signal to rule them all with the ‘thug veto’. Great phrase and so accurately emotive of what happened – here. And would have happened all round the country had they had their way – they even turned out around the country when the subject of their violence did not! How does this square with Jeremy Clarksons recent boil over when he suggested something similar be done to Megan Markle? Then they went out and did it to a woman anyway and celebrated the pure joy it gave them. Is coz she’s white it’s ok? I just don’t know how they can’t see the hypocrisy and lack of critical thinking. I also can’t believe that the juice thrower can seriously plead not guilty. If you’re so proud of yourself and so sure of your actions, then own it at least. And stand up for it in the docks
Blair everything you say just illustrates your right wing leanings. It started by you not hearing Seymour slagging others free speech and then got worse from there. Convincing yourself otherwise borders on delusional.
Seymour and the free speech union iirc opposed letting Chelsea Manning into NZ , I remember this because it was a few weeks after those Canadians Lauren or someone got shut down
“The Democratic Party likes to say that they are the party of the working class, of racial minorities, and of immigrants. Yet those are the exact same demographics that oppose gender ideology the most. As progressive activists gain further control of the party, their views on gender will increasingly be out of touch with the people they claim to represent.
The “big tent” cannot hold. Sooner or later, Democrats will have to make a choice between supporting the views of the affluent mostly-White progressive activists that make up most of their leadership—or the views of the working-class people of color that make up the bulk of their votes. It’s going to get real awkward when most support will come from affluent White liberals, who deem themselves oppressors, and most opposition will come from working-class people of color, who are usually deemed oppressed by the same people that deem themselves oppressors.
Perhaps we need to hold an Oppression Olympics to sort this all out. Although progressives have developed one easy trick to win the women’s division of those Olympics.”
https://societystandpoint.substack.com/p/what-progressives-dont-want-to-admit
The brahmin left/ PMC/ wellington woke twitterati are going to destroy the left. Freedom of speech should be bread and butter liberalism. The left is all about tolerance of their parades and public displays of pornography in the name of ‘freedom’, but nobody else is allowed to say ***anything*** at all.
Roblogic. Yes. But their messing around with children’s minds and genitalia is worse.
Seymour is more of Kiwi then they will ever be, so there is that.
Push back of woke ideology
Mana Wāhine Kōrero Response to (now deleted) Stuff article Vs. Sean Plunket
https://plainsight.nz/mana-wahine-korero-response-to-now-deleted-stuff-article-vs-sean-plunket/
extract
“The arrogance required to take another’s history and claim intimate knowledge is quite staggering. Ahi Wi-Hongi presumes to speak for all Māori, but this cannot be done. No one Māori person speaks for all Māori. Certainly ‘Gender Minorities Aotearoa’ does not – they are not even an Iwi; they are merely a well-funded and questionable outfit sending damaging breast binders to Kiwi teenage girls and inventing new words in Te Reo to describe ‘gender’ – a wholly colonial concept if ever there was one. They are doing this at the same time that they are pretending concepts such as ‘gender affirmation’ have always existed in Te Ao Māori. This is obviously contradictory; if these ideas had existed, there would already be words for them.”
Her views on woke Te reo
“This linguistic appropriation is damaging our language. Modern Māori language is colloquially referred to as ‘fruit salad Māori’. My elders do not understand this new form it has taken; modern Te Reo is unintelligible to them. It is unnatural in Te Reo to disregard wāhine as gender ideologues do. Wāhine were respected and had distinct roles and functions within the whanau. There are many whakatauki to wāhine. It is well known that several chiefs were wāhine.”
Kiwibank NZ of the year, who is facing 2 charges of assault.
Kiwibank not exactly customer centric, and seems to be full woke at the expense of it’s customer service.
I’ve been embarrassed to be a Kiwibank customer – here’s why
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/opinion-i-m-fumbling-through-my-pocket-why-i-ve-been-embarrassed-to-be-a-kiwibank-customer/ar-AA19Upqm
Kiwibank needs less woke marketing and more understanding of keeping up with customer service, being non political, getting people who know what they are doing in IT and running their bank in the 21 century.
You feel that NZ banks like Kiwibank have got away from banking fundamentals and in their own little bubble – bit like SVB.
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