Bread and Butter Knuckle Politics – the 501 decision an enormous political victory for Labour

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Chippy has made it clear he is redirecting Labour from social justice to economic justice with his Bread and Butter politics.

We saw it yesterday with the extension of half priced public transport and the 25cent fuel subsidy cut.

The economic recession post Covid has left everyone economically anxious and identity politics simply exacerbates those anxieties so refocusing on the cost of living crisis is a means of generating solidarity and solutions without alienating voters.

Expect a lot more universalism from Chippy.

The difference politically for the Right between Chippy and Jacinda is that Chippy will throw a punch. Jacinda killed them with kindness, but Chippy is more than happy to attack the Right directly.

Call it Bread and Butter Knuckle Politics.

The news this week that Australia has agreed to take into account the history and length of time in Australia of their 501s rather than immediately deport them to us is an enormous victory for New Zealand and the Labour Party.

The policy has seen an explosion of professional criminals with a level of sophistication and violence that has utterly ruptured the domestic gang landscape.

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Allowing more and more and more of them to be renditioned against their will to New Zealand simply because they were born here (despite living their entire lives in Australia), has contributed to a destabilisation of NZ society that has caused enormous damage.

Shutting this tap off was the first thing we needed to do.

This now allows the NZ Police to focus on those who are already here and limit their empire building.

This is the first piece of good news in the gang turf war and an enormous political victory for Labour.

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29 COMMENTS

  1. Mr Chipkins is doing well so far, keep it up Chippy. The public transport and gas prices were pretty obvious moves to assist us ordinary folks, and he kept the measures in place rather than try and be a swot like Grant–always trying to out tory the tories.

  2. “We saw it yesterday with the extension of half priced public transport and the 25cent fuel subsidy cut.”

    was done also by Jacinda Ardern and then by Grant Robertson. This is the second extention. So nothing new in the west here.
    In saying that it would have been absolutly beyond dumb to not extend these two items specially in auckland were a whole lot of cars were just destroyed and i would venture a guess with many of them not insured as people don’t have the money for that. Ditto for household contents insurance. So that was he best they could do to keep the town somewhat moving.
    Still eons away from free public transport. They simply can’t as their ideology will now allow for it.

    ‘The news this week that Australia has agreed to take into account the history and length of time in Australia of their 501s rather than immediately deport them to us is an enormous victory for New Zealand and the Labour Party.’

    that is something that will be proven first before it is considered a success. If this is by individual assesment we will still get anyone OZ does not want, while we would never ever repay their kindness in kind.

    “This now allows the NZ Police to focus on those who are already here and limit their empire building.”

    Nah, the police will do no such thing as they can’t. Early release in NZ is adding to crime, not locking people up in the first place but putting them on home d or community work is adding to crime, Gangs being embolden by the govenrment under Jacinda Ardern will not pretend to be meek under Chippie. Nor will they fear Stuart Nash as Police Minister under Chippy anymore then they feared him as Police Minister under Jacinda Ardern. We have had overdoses on Fenantyl in NZ. No one is prepared for that misery of that drug when it truly starts trickling down. https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/national/2022/12/new-zealand-grossly-underprepared-for-fentanyl-outbreak.html
    The gang(sters) that bring misery to this country fly in on a commercial ticket, legally and when they are done finishing their setting up of infrastructure, supply networks and the likes, they simply leave. And these guys we will never encounter. The 501 dumped by OZ on us are an issue but there are not that issue. And our police is no longer able to properly police and has not been able to do so for a while. And that is an issue that is baked in, no matter if the country is run by a pumpkin in blue or red.

  3. While I don’t have much confidence in the 501 change- the left-uniparty in Australia are particularly dodgy (witness their failure to support Julian Assange, their war against whistleblowers who revealed crimes by the Australian military and intelligence services, and the current campaign to deport an Australian citizen to the US DIRECTLY FROM AUSTRALIA because he gave flight training in Cessna’s to some Chinese guys)- it’s good that the fuel subsidy and public transport subsidy are being extended.

    Of course, if you want to avoid those just being subsidies to industry, you would need to seize the refinery that ‘Refining NZ’ are currently conspiring to destroy, and take over public transport to ensure sensible fees. It’d be nice to think that Hitchens has the courage to do that, but yeah, probably not.

      • To the extent the refinery has been demolished, the money to rebuild it must be taken by force from Shell, the other parties in Refining NZ, their directors, their employees, and any contractors who assisted the destruction.

  4. bratty it’s not is fuel subsidy and public transport an extension but is it a good policy…

    answers on a postcard to the usual address

    • Not sure what you are saying but the subsidies came in under Jacinda in March 2022 to ‘soften’ the blow of higher gasoline prices, were extended by another 6 month under Grant Robertson, and have now been extended by Chippy.

      from Roberston himself
      ” Finance Minister Grant Robertson is defending the decision to extend the fuel tax subsidy.

      Chris Hipkins has announced the 25 cent fuel tax cuts, and half-price public transport will now run until the end of June.

      Robertson said in December running it past the original March date wasn’t sustainable, but that changed with Hipkins’ succession.

      He told Mike Hosking Hipkins wanting the cost of living at the top of the agenda was one of those factors.

      Robertson says the policy has worked and therefore that was the policy they chose to extend to keep their cost of living focus front and centre. ”

      https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/grant-robertson-finance-minister-defends-decision-to-extend-the-fuel-tax-subsidy-until-march/
      so what ever.

  5. This 501 Gang shit/thing has got under my skin for the past 5-10 years. If Chipkins is going to do something about it, it will swing the voting 5-10% to Labour. Handling these guys with kid gloves will not work. They are basically scum, and that’s being polite.

    These guys are out of control and have no boundaries, they would kill their own grandmother’s if there was a $ in it for them.

  6. Chippy hardly attacked the right directly. He actually made their life easier by keep the fuel subsidies. Helps the rich but not poor. Go Labour…love ya!

    • The Kraut Went Wild,

      How does a fuel subsidy help the rich but not the poor? Obviously a punter that puts $150 fuel into their Merc will save more than the person who puts $50 into their Mitsubishi but context is important.

      • TM. Because the wealthy drive more for recreation. They fill two vehicles, the one that tows the boat and the family vehicle. The poor put enough in to commute to work if they have a second hand vehicle. A good perk for the wealthy. Labour made the huge green burp by stopping Taranaki gas and the refinery. Having to back track because the cost of living is out of control must be a huge embarrassment. But hey because labour people drive as much as righties we need to keep onside with the voters. This decision was the politically RIGHT thing to do. The problem is Robertson was needing that petrol tax money to help fund other stuff and cut down on debt. Funny how the burning planet isn’t so important now.

          • N. The point is when National talk of tax cuts across the board to put more cash in everyones pockets, you Lefties put the boot in and accuse them of giving money to their rich mates. This extension to not continuing with with the proposed petrol TAX is no different. The wealthy will proportionately do better than the poor, simply because they can afford the increased fuel Tax.

      • Thinking about it Thinking Man, you’ve just defeated your own argument because the Mitsubishi will chew more fuel that the high tech hybrid Merc, that’s for sure. Also, don’t I think I’d rather believe every economist who has commented on it and called it dumb economic policy based on ideology. But you can think whatever you want, that’s why you are the Thinking Man. read this – it’s the actual truth because it’s by one half of the ‘all-important merger’ in the interest of quality journalism as often mentioned by Martyn:
        https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/483481/government-s-fuel-subsidy-extension-extremely-dumb-economic-policy

      • It was another idiotic comment by Kraut.
        If petrol is cheaper and the poor buy petrol they are better off .
        Kraut is not the brightest.

  7. “Chippy has made it clear he is redirecting Labour from social justice to economic justice”

    A couple of tweaks to economic policy and the demotion of Nanaia doesn’t mean he’s moving away from the identitarian agenda. Recent appointments show the government is pressing on with Three Waters https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/three-waters-chief-executives-appointed-but-search-continues-for-one-more/X2TLVL42EZAF3HUWFLHLBH452A/

    Different ringmaster, same circus. We still have a wokist government, not a social democrat government. Have a listen to Chippy’s interview with Kathryn Ryan this morning: https://www.rnz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=2018876115

  8. Good summation Martyn. But would Hipkiss arrange to distribute some gobstoppers to the peeps in need now and then, just to show that though he isn’t santa claus he is cognisant of the real problems that lack of backbone and practical morality, by our so-called governments, has wrought on good people in NZ, and people who would have been good given half a chance to make some personal achievements which benefitted their lives, rather than being rogered (NZ universal style) by the beneficiary cult set up by the wowsers and malevolent in government welfare. Then I will call Chris H by his real surname, because I am afraid at the moment that his image if just that of an avatar. What a Doubting Thomas I am.

  9. Chris Hipkins is making waves already albeit exciting ones! He needed to, as the price of petrol has been concerning for two years now. My interest is in whether he will adequately address the high grocery prices, and if he will reinstate some government funding to food agencies.

    • You are not wrong CB.

      But what will peoples reactions be? In the provinces where I am we have rain water tanks, catch fish, grow vegetables, use local markets, share stuff, but it could quickly turn to custard in Auckland.

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