Aloha Luxon threatens the rod against rams raiders but not Uffindell?

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National leader Christopher Luxon calls for greater accountability for persistent youth offenders amid a crime spree

National Party leader Christopher Luxon is calling for greater accountability for persistent youth offenders following a halving of prosecutions of young people.

Speaking today at a dairy in Auckland that has been burgled three times in the past three months, Luxon said the young owner was doing everything right, working incredibly hard and incredibly stressed and in fear about receiving the next call.

“Labour just hasn’t got the balance right … the primary job of Government is to protect its citizens.

“We just clearly haven’t got the appropriate consequences in place for serious offending,” said Luxon.

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Aloha Luxon wants to use the rod on ram raiders while conveniently forgetting about his own delinquent youth MP.

Uffindell’s maiden speech is explicit – and I quote “underlying generational social problems. We need friends, family, and, in particular, parents, to step up and show what is right. Ultimately, though, the State must hold people accountable” – did the State hold Sam accountable?

The problem here optics for Luxon, he wants to be tough on crime while protecting a basher toff in his Caucus?

Harsher penalties for ram raiding teens, cutting young disabled people off welfare, punching gang members in the balls – Luxon’s approach to every issue is the crack of the whip – is that enough to win the 2023 election?

I don’t think it is, I think wider society appreciates that the ram raids are a symptom of a deeper malaise in society post Covid and don’t believe the bash will make things better.

The wider community are calling for solutions, all Luxon is promising is the bash (except when it comes to his candidates).
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  1. I think wider society cannot believe the crime wave going unchecked. Day in day out.

    A 17 year old killer, whilst high on meth and drunk, crashes his car killing his passenger and injuring another. Did the Youth Court judge care about the deceased or the injured party? No, not really, not at all, just ak htgeir families. But this failure of a judge was so impressed by this young man getting a job he came down from the bench and shook his hand. Job done youth court! Thanks for coming. He didn’t even get the wet bus ticket. He should do it all again!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129670937/mother-of-teen-killed-in-crash-heartbroken-after-drivers-charges-wiped

    Wider society cannot believe there is no accountability in our dysfunctional justice system or that the police cannot cope or even want to deal with it under Labour. None of us have seen it so bad.

    Guess that’s a spin off of a deliberate government policy of reducing offending and reoffending rates by simply pretending it doesn’t hapoen if you do nothing about it.

    Luxon is right and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see it. Labour are a fucking disaster with law and order.

    • X-ray. It was Bill English who did his utmost to make New Zealand employers averse to investing in our young guys by portraying them all as unemployable drug addicts at a time when our youth suicide rates were sky rocketing. It was that shyster Key who screamed in Parliament to get some guts and send other people’s kids off to fight in other people’s wars, when their six sons lived lives of privilege and choice beyond the ken of even their own dimwit supporters. National were no better here than Labour, and more ruthlessly damaging at personal levels without ever pretending otherwise.

      • I think holding Bill English responsible for last nights ram raids is a bridge too far, even in Bert’s world!

        • Gosh, thanks Xray, your whole post was a fucking disaster!
          It’s as if Jacinda was driving the stolen vehicle herself…
          Bahahahahaha!

        • You are right x-ray. But who is responsible. I feel it’s down to the people who are buying the stolen jewelry, clothing cigarettes etc. Sure some of these young buggers are only doing it for fun but there is a heck of a lot doing to make a easy buck.
          I don’t believe its necessarily a problem caused by a particular political party but is a manifestation of the years of treating the underprivileged like shit.
          You reap what you sow.

          • In NZ the receiver always get a harsher sentence but what about white collar crime like tax evasion many get of scot free.

        • and holding Labour responsible for them is just as ridiculous.

          ram raids aren’t anything new in this country, the “hole in the wall gang” were active in the 90’s, so should we blame Jenny Shipley?

          the reason that ram raids are crimes de jour, is because it is easier to steal a car, than it to get a gun.

          also, the police aren’t really being smart about investigating this stuff. its obvious that a lot of ram raids are highly targeted robberies. that means that these jobs are being cased and organised by career criminals who have recruited youngsters. because i not seen an upsurge in hoodrats wearing Micheal Hill Jewellery engagement rings, one can surmise that these products are getting shipped overseas. want to cut down ram raids? find the guys organising them.

    • https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/New-Zealand/Singapore/Crime

      (acknowledgement to Wayne Senior Fairbrother, comment on Bob Jones “Nopunchespulled”)

      “Singapore, like NZ, was colonised by the British, but for a longer time, and much more harshly. Yet despite that, Singapore’s population don’t seem to use colonisation as an excuse for, and a license to commit crimes? So why is NZ so different? Food for thought. Some interesting statistics from about 10 years ago: NZ versus Singapore. With similar population size. NZ has: 58 times more serious assaults. 57 times more assaults. 57 times more burglaries. 45 times more gun crime. 31 times more drug-related crime. 27 times more vehicle theft. 11 times more drug trafficking offences. 10 times more rapes. 3 times more murders. We are crime central compared to Singapore. However, Singapore has 38 times more Police Officers than NZ”

  2. It’s a nice attempt at a Jedi mind trick there. The 2 issues are unrelated. If the ram raiders end up like Big Sam in 20 years then you would argue that is success. At the moment they are on a trajectory of being a gang member and a life in prison.

    In New Zimbabwe we have a major problem with then and now.

    If Big Sam was a dead horse the left would have flogged all the meat off the bones.

  3. Bloody idiot, just like the others. His focus should be on the social circumstances which precipitate this sort of behaviour, but that’s too hard for brainless politicians of all ilk.

    Chris needs to go back to Bill the Dipstick, and confer with Bill about his grand plan in publicly designating all our young males useless druggies and dumping them on the rubbish heap so as to replace them with el cheapo Asian imports. Bill was a social investor – ho ho ho – and Chris says that he is too without a clue what to do about this terrible waste of youth, energy and potential.

  4. Just for the rabid purveyors of the big bash persuasion, just take a look at The Standard report, Mark Mitchell is Kim Hilled on National Radio. YOUTH CRIME IS DOWN except in Auckland! Wonder why?
    As for your comment Xray, it reeks of assumptions made by those who are ignorant of how the Justice System can work with young offenders. However, if you intention is to inflame the problems created by past failures based on your own self-entitlement, go for it! You will inevitably pay the price!

  5. I do not think the two cases cannot be seen as the same . The ram raids are a product of poor parenting the wealth gap and a breakdown of education due partly to covid .
    Uffindell is an employment issue so needs to be handled with due care .It is a historical case and there are 2 sides to the arguement and if it is found he was not truthful or light on detail will reflect his character and suitability as a representative of the people of Tauranga.

      • This could be the case .Being rich does not make you a good parent just as being poor does not make you a bad parent. As a parent you need to care and be there for them when they stuff up

  6. Well according to Mark Mitchell Uffindell has turned his life around and so should these kids. Yes Sam managed to escape the trauma of been brought up in the 5% of wealthiest households in this country, a spell at Kings College, and a university education where he overcame living in filth, to rise above all that and become a fine upstanding liar, investment banker and politician. Well you can’t argue that National aren’t the party of opportunity.

  7. Arrrr the good Doctor not! he’s a fucken idiot and unsuitable but we have to be careful taking the moral high ground cause our dear country is fill of bullies like our roads are fill of pot holes.

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