They’ve fucking done it, Trump’s true legacy of malice has been exposed, American Right Wing Christian Scum have won, and Abortion has just been banned by the Republican rigged Supreme Court!
Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade
“Women will die”: Chicago health care worker describes concern about illegal abortions
Ann Marie Staff, a 59-year-old registered nurse from outside Chicago, got news of the court’s decision on her walk from a New York City hotel to Washington Square Park.
Sitting on a park bench amid vendors, other tourists and students from nearby New York University, she quietly described the moment as “overwhelming.”
I have to hand on heart tell you I never believed Liberals who claimed Roe vs Wade could ever be overturned!
I thought it was something we told our daughters as a scary joke while tucking them into bed at night, ‘You go to sleep right now or the Republicans will sneak in and take away your basic human rights!”
Make no mistake this is a far right Christian attack on the rights of women backed by a lunatic fringe of 30% dictating to the other 70% something as intrinsic as basic health services.
This is the true legacy of spite Trump planted and its toxic harvest will literally kill.
That’s why, after watching all those right wing Christian judges make false promises to never tamper with abortion rights, we urgently require the issue to be put back to Luxon and get a clear agreement that ACT will quit any Government that attempts to restrict abortion rights and Nicola Willis will quit as Deputy of National.
On such a day of horror, we must pledge to fight that we can NEVER allow this dynamic to ever have this power in NZ!
No one is safe if the State claims this autonomy over any one of our bodies, women have every right to expect a free abortion with wrap around counselling services if required.
End of story.
Luxon can do the 45 second CEO soundbite but he has zero intellectual curiosity, he is a devout evangelical Christian whom believes his wealth is proof positive that Jesus loves him. His policies will make things far far far worse in this country in terms of housing, inequality and poverty so don’t pretend voting against Jacinda for him makes you radical or edgy, it makes you a fuckwit, especially if he has some devout desire to burn abortionists.
Some will argue I’m being unfair to Chris who has stated that it isn’t an issue, but he agreed abortion is murder and I’m sick of being surprised when right wing Christians promise one thing and then do another when they are in power.
I’m totally over that!
Weep for America, weep for the Home of the Land of the Free, weep as these Scum molest women’s rights by stealing abortion from them.
What a tragedy. What a chilling terrible tragedy.
Our deepest condolences to all rational citizens of the planet, today is a dark one where the spite of religion blots the sun of reason from our sight. We must live in its shadow of gleeful ignorance and it is an abomination.
Weep dear friends, today the American Right Wing Christian Scum won a majority battle in their war against our collective human rights. Mourn your grief but plot our vengeance.
Our daughters, our mothers, our aunties, our lovers, our wife’s, our girlfriends, our friends, our sisters, our fellow citizens, all our people deserve far better than the damage of today.
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I agree Martyn that it is a totally appalling state of affairs and that the Supreme court was stacked to the gills with republican nutjobs by Trump in an unprecedented and in the end, barely legal manner. I was so hoping Ruth G could last out just a few months longer.
But I disagree with you as to motivation. I read something recently by a constitutional lawyer that said the issue was a Republican and in particular, libertarian bugbear. Sure there are plenty of fundamentalists who are anti abortion but for many, the issue was state over reach.
I dont pretend to understand the workings of the US system but the issue is in large part about what is seen as the States’ right to decide. At the time of Wade vs Roe it seemed like a large slap for democracy (from their perspective) that the judiciary could unilaterally decide what was seen as a constitutional? issue.
I think it was a bit like having Co Governance just decided and enacted by the government without reference to the people. No doubt it was a democracy vs Human Rights issue and that won out and apparently the animosity has existed for 1/2 a century.
Doesnt make it right but I am just saying, you cant lay it all at Christianity’s door. Though I would agree, it would be nice to be reassured that any religious leaning PM would be clear about where they stand. I think that saying Abortion is not for me is a long way away from it’s continuation – and I think Abortion should not be for you either. So clarity before the election would be nice.
If you don’t use contraception and get pregnant and don’t notice that you’ve missed your period for a few months in Waikaretu, you might need to take a bus to get to Middlemore Hospital.
If you don’t use contraception and get pregnant and don’t notice that you’ve missed your period for a few months in Texas, you might need to take a bus to get to New Mexico.
There was once a law where runaway slaves were returned to slave states on the grounds of property rights.
A GOP controlled Congress could easily pass laws on the matter and a GOP state could pass laws making such travel plans a crime (even confine pregnant women to their state).
Remembering of course that the Democrats were the slave owners party SPC.
How uncomfortable for your upside down world that Abe Lincoln was a republican.
FFS that was how long ago Keepcalm? What was LBJ…….southern democrat. He did more for the black people than the Republicans
Lincoln fought to stop the Southern states leaving the union. His primary motive was not about “those poor slaves”
In any case it’s a bit like saying (of the Republicans) Anakin Skywalker was once a Jedi. Didn’t stop him becoming Darth Vader.
Star Wars is a made up story Wheel. Sorry.
And if the “progressive” left want to cancel the say of white people over the sins of their fathers because “colonialism”, then the progressive left might not like what that means for the slave owner roots of the “progressive” Democratic Party.
I love me a good “progressive” hipocritical morality paradox.
Gee I had no idea about Star Wars.
Who is canceling anything?
Both parties underwent a polar shift during the mid-20th Century which is well document both online and in historical texts. Blacks voted for the Republicans up to the 1930’s when they slowly moved to the Democrats following the New Deal programs. The Republicans realised that they could snare conservative whites who wernt keen on blacks getting rights by using the “Southern Strategy”.
Yup won’t those wanting an abortion simply drive over the border to the state next door in which abortion is legal?
An incovenience yes but really is this much more than that?
i think you will find that texas and other “red” states are making doing exactly that illegal.
How?
That’s the thing with these judges that got appointed under Trump. It’s easy to be a liar or completely disingenuous when your whole value system is based on a myth/fairytale. Truth is just what you want to make it. A bit like ditching testaments when they don’t suit the ideas of those in control at the time.
This is the same bunch that just ruled it was unconstitutional in New York to require people to show just cause to carry weapons in public. But it’s ok to remove a woman’s control over her own body. They are just f’ing insane.
Agree, whatever their motivations, they are extremists. No wonder a recent poll showed only 25% support for the Supreme Court. Had been declining for some years but that is much lower than the previously low of about 35%?
……..Make no mistake this is a far right Christian attack on the rights of women backed by a lunatic fringe of 30% dictating to the other 70%……Yes quite righteous, how can 30% of the population dictate to the other 70%….. in any country around the world on what to do!
For some time there has been a campaign to secure power in the USA to the minority – it required control of the Supreme Court and then its sanction for states rights to determine election law (Jim Crow era like laws not just restored but expanded to GOP states nationwide).
The capacity of smaller more conservative states to win a majority in the Senate – which appoints people to the Supreme Court – was of a design to enable the land owners of these states to dominate government over the urban migrant working class.
What becomes of the unwanted birthings ?
lol absolutely nothing. ‘Planned Parenthood’ and other abortion groups will raise heaps of money off this and use a small fraction of it to transport women in states where their abortion would be illegal, to get abortions in other states.
Most states will implement laws similar to those of Sweden and other civilized countries, where abortion is legal up until 18 weeks.
Lined up n shot by NRA enthusiasts?
This will ensure a Trump re-election in 24. If he is still wanting it.
Watch the US mid terms in a few months, they will be very polarised, the arch conservatives basking in sucesss, America as it should be, verses the screaming rabid liberals who are seeing America as they want it to be with all there gains being lost.
The election will be a big test of what is the US today, morally liberal or conservative.
i think de santis will defeat trump in the primaries.
Standalonecomplex.
You may well be correct. Whoever the Republicans put up they will face a rabid liberal Democrat who is totally preoccupied with this judgement, with little regard to any other issue.
The Democrat will be soundly defeated. It sometime since I was back in rhe US but my observation is that for every liberal that is dismayed by this judgement there will at least two core conservatives rejoycing in it
i dunno, this whole abortion thing will make this next election a lot closer than we think. even with all the gerry mandering and voting restrictions, i thinka lot of republican women will secretly vote democrat. the mid terms will be interesting.
Agree Standalone. De Santis is an absolute wanker, but without the awkward Trump history of nailing and paying porn stars.
It may get worse. Justice Alito said this decision applied only to abortion yet from the NY Times;
“But Justice Thomas, a member of the majority, issued a concurring opinion that sent a different message. He wrote that it was strictly true that the majority opinion addressed only abortion, but he said that its logic required the court to reconsider decisions about contraception, gay sex and same-sex marriage.”
The poisonous politics of the US is their citizens real enemy!
We had a chance to do something with our super majority, the right was just extra about doing something of there own. Pity.
This is the ultimate test for Americans–women and supporters should not give one vote to Republicans in the mid terms.
What amounts to forced carrying to term, and birth, is Handmaids Tale for real. Margaret Attwood might have a grim satisfaction in “told you so” when a minority of would be theocrats can get away with this attack on all women.
A lot will be written yet but as many have said…essentially forced birth…in the US that has
•no universal healthcare
•high rate of maternal mortality for a developed country
•no universal paid parental leave
•no universal sick leave
•expensive childcare & early child hood education
The woke fail to understand that they caused this by pushing way too far and turning everyone who is not them into a supposed evil aggressor. The faux empathy princess has created a monster here in NZ too that will not be easy to contain. Class/race/sex/age wars coming to NZ 2024.
what the hell does the supreme court of america overturning roe vs wade, have to do with wokism? are you suggesting that even though 70% of americans, who are pro choice created a backlash from the 30% who are anti abortion? and that is somehow got something to do with woke identity politics?
your logic is deeply flawed, and your mathmatical knowledge is non existant.
On the button standalonecomplex , nailed it.
Why did Trump get in and why is the Supreme court as it is today? Joint the fucking dots and don’t be an fanboy idiot like Berty Boy.
Slobber cock, Trump like you is deranged!!!
trump fanboy slobber cock!
“an fanboy”, or good English, like “a fanboy?” Another illiterate!
Poor Berty are twiggered.
slobbery Dan, by you?. Nay, you don’t have the intellect.
please explain obamas woke agenda. this should be compelling reading…
I told everyone that this was going to happen, but no one believed me.
The USA is headed towards a Christian theocracy with white supremacist characteristics. I thought Biden winning the presidency would stop that slide, but it seems to have sped it up.
Christians will stop at nothing to impose their faith on others. In some cases at gunpoint.
Though I don’t believe that Luxon will try and ban abortion. National have always believed in the Gospel of Profit, and will impose that, first and foremost.
These nutters care so much for the unborn American but when they are born they couldn’t care less about them. America should overturn the right for these nutters to dictate their religious gibberish to the country.
The US fundamentalist right wing label abortion murder, so now the US supreme court deny American women the constitutional right to a safe termination should it be required, while at the same time passionately defending the right to bear arms!!! WTF!
If Trump and his ilk call this move a step forward, then it’s a guaranteed retrograde step affecting human rights. I dread to think what’s next on the Republican agenda?
With this extremely serious issue in mind, the conservative fundamentalist Christian man of seven houses and leader of the Opposition Christopher Luxon, needs to clarify his and National’s position on abortion rights in NZ with no BS attached, before next year’s election.
And America has the nerve to suggest they are liberating women all around the world with their invasions!
Te Reo will never over turn abortion laws here. Different demographic and different non conservative politics.
As for the ruling meh. Individual states can apply there own laws ala democracy. Don’t like it – move to California or New York.
US right wing christian fascists have been spending big on this fight for decades. Some of those funds had already found their way into NZ evangelical churches and pressure groups.
Now their battle is won in the USA expect more of those funds to be directed outside the US to places like NZ.
So don’t be surprised when the topic of abortion, largely put to bed in the 1980s, will within the next few years again rear its head in NZ .
Good point Richard C I think these people are fanatical and under it is a distaste for women having autonomy. What a cheek that we big bruisers, or slim slippery eels can’t be in charge and women dare to look us in the eye and speak their truths and feelings.
Time to send NATO into America and free the women Jacinda? Fight for their bodily autonomy like you did against the fanatic Covidians? Oh wait…
Or have the Tories just written a line in the sand to the Whigs and dared them to cross it in protest action as a distraction to the Jan6 riot investigation despite no one watching it to gain some sort of greater moral stance?
If that makes sense,
I would have thought “abortion” would have been a general referendum decision. It would be in the most democratic countries of the world – eg Switzerland.
Well yes, that’s why in a very democratic country like Switzerland the law allows abortions… up to 12 weeks (slightly lower than most European countries, but not an absolute free for all as politicians decided in NZ).
All good in the US (sarcasm), in NZ they are working on bringing back GMO, political extradition and nukes with a Labeen government worrying more about Gib and the endless task forces, than human rights.
Sadly when the lefties go woke and pro globalism (jobs to the cheapest country with free trade deals, low wages, more competition for jobs, yeah go lefties!), the backlash brings back the right and the result is division.
Sadly human rights and policy worked hard for being overturned as the new lefties pursue their own agendas and create unexpected and backwards backlashes.
Abortion is murder! Its great day for America thankyou Mr Trump for making America great again!
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