Wow, this was a train wreck interview by Luxon!
Why on earth did Luxon’s handlers think he was ready for Jack?
This interview was a brutal take down of National’s bullshit claim that Labour are causing inflation, Jack kept pushing him on what exactly he would cut in terms of spending and as he did, Jack kept adding that total up and pointed out it’s a few percentage points of total spending!
This is less an interview and more a homicide – Luxon is good at the spin and talking points & hopeless at details!
He stumbles poorly with the tax cuts issue.
The problem with the rights tax cut argument is the pittance given to the poor always looks pathetic when you see how much they are getting! Average wage earners will gain $800 per year while Luxon will get $18000 each year!
Why haven’t Luxon’s handlers given him the answer to the tax issue which is Luxon should offer to donate his tax cut to a charity.
Luxon refutes the premise of Jack’s question while Jack is grilling Luxon on National’s Covid response suggestions and Luxon fails appallingly
All Luxon has are ZB talking points! He has no solutions whatsoever- moving tax brackets should be a vote winner but he has tripped himself up on all the other contradictions – he can’t do a serious interview with a baller like Jack and not look stupid.
This was a tragic decision to put Luxon on with Jack.
No one can look at that interview and feel confidence in Luxon. He’s great at the spin and good at the sale pitch but as soon as he starts getting grilled it all falls over.
Dare I say he has David Shearer disease?
Wow that was bad.
Willie on the other hand shone.
Finally on the show after the funerals of his Mother and Uncle and after being struck down by Covid, he’s back and came out swinging on co-governance.
Willie remains one of Labour’s best communicators and Ministers. He has class, he has wit and he has the answers.
He’s a Woking class bloke who started on the floors of the Freezing Works and has cut his political teeth using blunt language.
He unfolds the co-governance issue and explains that there is no Māori take over and that it is a partnership that pakeha doesn’t have to fear.
There is vigorous debate over the values of democracy, Willie points out it isn’t superiority Māori are looking for, it’s equality.
Jack pushes back and it’s a great exchange of ideas.
The difference between the Willie interview and the Luxon interview is that Jack is hard on both of them, but Willie is the one with the actual answers.
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Luxon appeared, that’ll be enough.
One mention of “Three Waters,” one reference to He Puapua will wipe 700 bad appearances from Luxon in terms of making an electoral difference.
I don’t think there’s any “fear” involved other than as ratepayers and taxpayers we’re going to be charged more for a lower quality of service from an unnecessary and inefficient additional layer of parasitic bureaucrats and “elites” from indigenous political pressure groups. It’s extremely rare that adding bureaucracy results in a better service at a lower cost.
But you would hand over control of water to multinational corporations.
I didn’t say that. I think the current regional councils should already be doing anything that Three Waters is proposing to “fix”.
100% fredonas
It’s just politics fredonas. It’s the party line, for whatever party wants to undercut, undermine, kvetsch, moan, grizzle, whinge. Its adversarial politics 101, blue party, dark blue party, yellow party, green party, red party, pink party, black and white party, sensible party, whites only party, rainbow party… …
It’s a talking point, “14,000 more bureaucrats”…w@nk w@nk.
It’s like ACT’s “tax the rich less and the money will trickle-down to the poor”
It’s like ACT’s “Flat tax rate!”
It’s like National’s “The reality is…: (mentioned many times by Chris Luxon in the Jack Tame interview) …
Luxon was so bad, Willie looked good.
But if you listened carefully to his arguments and what he didnt say after being asked a few times. It was clear, he wasnt being honest and wouldnt answer the questions. It was the same old answer “People dont need to be scared of co governance” rather than addressing the heart of the issue.
Maori should have more representation of 3 Waters as they bring more to the table? Really? Democracy is still democracy but its a new democracy – you get to vote and in his new democracy, your vote wont be equal to ours.
Also all the argumentum ad hominem against Seymour – another political manoeuvre to distract away from what he doesnt want to talk about. Tame was great but he could have gone harder on Jackson, like Jackson’s BS claim that there are no Maori on Rotorua Council as there are 2 that I know of. And letting him get away with the “but we live 7 years less than you” as a justification for a move away from equal suffrage. If white people live 6 years less than Asians then does that mean an Asian voter should have their vote be worth 1/4 of that of a Maori??
There was a lot of BS and obfuscation in that interview and Jack Tame should have gone harder. But Kudos to Tame for having the fortitude to address our latest taboo subject, Why we should abandon equal suffrage and what we get instead.
Finally, if anyone then switched over to 3 and caught Nicola Willis, you will be asking yourself why Willis is not leading National. The contrast between her and Luxon couldnt have been greater.
Willis for PM, when (not if) Chris Luxon is rolled! Thanks Fantail.
You’ll know Nicola’s coup is coming when you hear the phrase “I have every/100% confidence in our leader of the National party…..”
Waiting for the next Dirty Politics gaffe. Dirty politics, the gift that keeps on giving…
Obviously the take on this interview is in the beholder. I thought Luxon came across as a regular person not a polished politician with bland answers drawn from years of experience at saying a lot and achieving nothing . He makes mistakes and then owes up to them few politicians do that. CEO are in the role because they can make desicions he just needs to take some breaths before he speaks . On the other hand Willie Jackson was entertaining but I would not trust him to give the same answers tomorrow.
Perhaps Luxon would have not won any swinging voters over but doubt if he would have lost any. Willie would not have made those worried about the threat of a Maori takeover
So Trevor if the mistake is thinking that government spending is driving inflation, when it’s not, his solution is presumably to cut spending then once again infrastructure issues get kicked down the road and social services become even more inadequate. The cherry on top being more fuel on housing price fire when Luxon cuts the bright line test etc.
Except it’s not a mistake at all. Luxon is just saying things that he hopes people will fall for, rather than actually believing his solutions will do anything but enrich himself and others similar. He’s not stupid and he’s not “regular”. In my book he is a con artist ( which probably makes him a reasonably polished politician)
There is one unfortunate aspect of the interview. Nowhere near enough people watched the interview. Luxon has been fluff since he became National Party leader. He’s done one thing superbly well. He’s hidden who and what he is. I said early on the three reasons Luxon was raising National in the polls.
1) Ardern had tanked in her popularity.
2) Luxon was not the despicable Judith Collins.
3) Luxon was doing a superb job of disguising who and what he is.
Here is why Luxon will never be PM.
1) The ill feeling as a result of Covid toward Ardern is calming down.
2) Ardern has 18 months until the election to turn things around. She’s highly motivated but up until now has been way too busy to run an extended campaign. Luxon on the other hand has had ample time on his hands and has until now been gifted a free pass by our media.
3) Luxon can’t hide his true self for another 18 months. The more people learn who and what he is, the more they will recoil. Courtesy of Jack Tame, that process is now under way.
TM – you have under estimated the ability of the NATZ dirty politics team to manipulate the right wing media, jounalists, tory talk ZB, tory times herald, bloggers and make a mountain out of a mole hill eg last Tuesday MIQ report. If I was in the afore-mentioned group I would make sure I didn’t feature in Nicky Harga’s next dirty politics book.
Nikorima,
On the money brother.
I didn’t watch the Q&A interview with Jack Tame and Chris Luxon. To me Luxon is a Walking Talking Human Contradiction.
He, like many leaders before him, haven’t learnt lessons from the past and that is Constantly Beating the Now Out-Dated NZ National Mantra Drum of Blaming others and not the faces staring back at them in the mirror of their lives has way passed its Best Before Date(s).
Luxon in his pure stupidity blames this government for ALL the WOES in the world eg inflation. He makes comparisons of other countries with bigger populations and compares those bigger countries with little Olde NZ.
He will probably harp on yet again of having once ran an airline even though THAT very airline was bailed out by the NZ taxpayers a number of times over the years especially by a National government.
I, like many low income NZers, are way below the Average Wage. And so whilst $800.00 seems alot to us low income workers(the bottom feeders as Luxon calls us) I am sure we low income workers would have to suffice with an extra say $80.00 a year under a National government.
Therefore I don’t National have yet again made a good choice in Luxon. Maybe because he has the backing of John Key is reason why Luxon got to being leader. But he just isn’t good enough. He is a reflection of John Key and that puts me off ever wanting to trust the guy.
Key had an amazing ability to lie and break promises and I get the feeling Luxon would do the same thing. But then National hardly have any honest politicians that haven’t resorted to lying when it suits them.
The interview was typical Wall of Sound Willie – blarney, bluster, bull dust and bumf. He slid off all questions and explained and justified nothing. Where is Geoffrey Palmer when Labour needs some constitutional rigour?
Looks like Do Nothing National haven’t changed. Still with a charlatan leader with no clue thinking they can smile and bullshit New Zealanders blind.
Willie? you jest!
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