I like how Nicola Willis has to explain who she is, because no one does.
National State of Denial is being live-streamed and this is Luxon’s chance to stamp the tone of who he is and what National stands for.
Nicola Willis claims Luxon has entered NZ politics to serve, which when you consider the romper stomper hard right bash the poor speech he’s about to give you wonder who exactly is he serving.
“Personal Responsibility” is part of todays National Party Bingo.
Luxon attacked Labour MPs for being socialist – he’s critiquing socialism and then links to running Air NZ without acknowledging Air NZ had to be bought out by the Government.
Luxon arguing his corporate rule of Air NZ is why he should run the country which is a bit like a Pilot asking to run Air NZ after a year flying.
Luxon is claiming the difficulties we are under going is all because of the Government, no, it’s the pandemic that did that plus the near decade of National DOING NOTHING on those issues of housing, poverty and inequality.
Luxon champions free market mythology mixed with migrant hard work ethos. It’s small business morality for corporate interest.
He’s now into welfare.
Bashing beneficiaries is just such basic basement bullshit – National are the ones who built the cruelty into WINZ and MSD. His ‘goal’ is the usual stick before carrot crap.
He is proposing more of the neoliberal welfare experiments of Orange Tamariki as his ‘solution’ Jesus wept, it’s just the worst welfare policy.
Luxon is pointing out how awful Labour have been on poverty, inequality and housing, which is totally justified, but Luxon’s solutions will make those issues FAR WORSE.
Luxon is now – surprise, surprise – going to give the rich tax cuts – so it’s bash beneficiaries with more Oranga Tamariki style Frankenstein social welfare policy while giving the rich tax cuts???? It’s like a cheap 1984 with more cushions.
I agree with him on the tax bracket creep – Simon Bridges is right about that.
‘World Leading’ – more National Party bingo.
Claims NZ needs a change of ‘mindset’. Like he’s selling a TV advertorial for right wing mindfulness. Each ‘mindset’ change gets a massage chair.
Thank God Christian Lex Luthor is politically tone deaf.
His romper stomper hard right speech is a horrifying regurgitation of every part of right wing reactionary policy that has been relentlessly exposed as making things worse.
Labour’s pathetic tax increases that National will overturn were virtue signals in the first place so National’s cancelling them is equally political pantomime.
Labour have refused point blank to do something meaningful on tax like a CGT or a Financial Transaction Tax, so National’s tantrum is equally farcical.
The new focus on bashing beneficiaries while giving the rich a tax cut is such basic bitch right wing policy it’s insulting that they’ve taken 5 leaders to work up to this.
Luxon is a slick commercial for a house you can never afford preaching a toxic hot mess of selfishness and openly attacking the poor.
We just lived through a once in a century pandemic, people rushed to the State for protection, they don’t want to hear that National will take a chainsaw to that State.
This speech and its naked aggression for selfishness and benny bashing will help solidify the Right. Luxon avoids all the heat of Judith’s spiteful language by wrapping the policy up with KPI optimism and CEO authority.
This allows urban male right wing voters to get their tax cut with an electorate vote to National while giving their Party vote to ACT for their ideological urges.
I think this dynamic of urban right males electorate voting National and Party voting ACT will create an MMP overhang.
The left has done little meaningfully transformative over the last 4 years for the poorest amongst us, National are promising to give them even less.
For the poor, they get vacant promises from Jacinda to do something while they get vague threats from National that something will be done.

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It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know National is the same old shit, practically the same bucket, self serving pander to the rich wanks they’ve always been. They are as original and as inspiring as reheated week old porridge.
But…
What the fuck is Labour?
Talked the big talk. Pretended to care. Failed to achieve Jack Shit.
I think it is crystal clear our student politicians and old hack senior civil servants (like Poto) masquerading as a government are in it to be in government. End of story. There definitely appears to be no bottom line. They are so hands off that their vague urges that double as Labour Party policy, are given over to the ministries to deal with, unchecked. There appears to be no passion about Labours reason for being! An example surely would be the entire Covid management has been entirely left to the deeply bureaucratic MOH, (hence the God awful RAT debacle). This very day they have NO idea how bad the Omicron outbreak is.
The most involvement we get is that the PR to sell the message left to the politicians. Hence the never ever think ahead that has replayed over and over.
And in all the hands off-ness Labours most unforgivable example is the appalling track record of setting new unaffordable house price records, month on month, year on year, the worst ever of any government ever and a growing pool of destitute left in these records wake. All roads to the damage done in society lead back to housing. Labour are just far too indifferent and clueless to notice or care about the very people these charlatans pretended to care about. Has a Labour MP ventured into those squalid motels where the collateral damage of Labours housing failures are hidden away in? A resounding NO.
So do they deserve to be re-elected? No. Because although they’re not National, they are barely different in reality. And so what is the point?
Great summary….so…abstain from voting?
I’m liking TOP’s manifesto.
Martyn, thanks for taking one for the team.
No way I was going to listen to him.
can you please, please, please stop calling the labour/greens government ‘the left’.
They are simply slightly less right/authoritarian than the current National Party position.
Oh yes yes yes.
There is no one on the left in parliament.
They have that programme on Monday morning at 11am on Nat Radio supposedly one from the right and one from the left, the latter wouldn’t know left if they fell over it.
I want some polling.
I can’t believe that this shallow little burke Luxon, can be the best that National can buy. National the party that is disloyal to its name, and its country. Fancy settling for that lower taxes stuff – it shows the empty heads of these right-wingers; National not a new idea since when? Perhaps 1951 and that idea wasn’t a good one. I think it is that slick idea that generic managers are good for the future. THERE IS ONE WAY to manage, One Ring will rule them all – the bull-ring that is, everything will be fine tomorrows for right-wingers. Fairy tales for the masses, jam tomorrow, and hard dewfinite contractual under-the-table dealings for the Managers and the Politicians are just managers as Luxon was.
The money-mad will persevere to the end just for unromantic figures on a screen, not working hard to find bright gold as in this song about real hard workers mostly New Zealanders.
https://folksong.org.nz/fwltgold/ Derek Metser’s song and a bit about it – Farewell to the Gold.
This from a great Maori New Zealander, among many but all superior to Luxon in integrity, but Inia Te Wiata is best for now:
I Got Plenty of Nuttin from Porgy and Bess.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYPuxNGOi-8&list=PLNkA-iAm6kyhAwK-2forfDt7HqnurTgld
I think this is the easypeasy attitude that Luxon and National want to take with us. But Porgy was a brave character determined to make what he could from his hard life, bloody but unbowed one could say. Bess has said she loves him and he, with no legs past his knees is determined to hold onto bits of good fortune as they fall. But that’s no way to have to be and people can’t stand more of what both Parties are dishing out to us.
And we will have a declining education standard offered to us in the lower classes, worse than now. Watch out, Porgy ajd Bess is the scenario for our future tucked behind the gateway to the right-wing mind.
Porgy and Bess, Act II, Scene 1: I Got Plenty o’ Nuttin’
George Gershwin
Oh, I got plenty o’ nuttin’ And nuttin’s plenty for me
I got no car, got no mule I got no misery
De folks wid plenty o’ plenty
Got a lock on de door ‘Fraid somebody’s a-goin’ to rob ’em While dey’s out a-makin’ more
What for?
I got no lock on de door Dat’s no way to be Dey kin steal de rug fom de floor
Dat’s okeh wid me
‘Cause de things dat I prize Like de stars in de skies All are free…
Oh, I got plenty o’ nuttin’ And nuttin’s plenty for me
I got the sun, got the moon Got the deep blue sea
De foks wid plenty o’ plenty Got to pray all de day
Seems wid plenty you sure got to worry How to keep the debbel away
Away
I ain’t frettin ’bout hell ‘Till de time arrive
Never worry long as I’m well
Never one to strive
To be good, to be bad What the hell
I is glad I’s alive
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/ellafitzgerald/igotplentyonuttin.html
Greywarbler. With respect, “ Burke” is spelt “ Berk”, an abbreviation of ‘The Berkshire Hunt,’ and is rhyming slang for the Marama word. Funnily enough, she has been replaced by Mallard as my least favourite MP, whereas Luxon vies with B. Tamaki as the sort of male who makes my skin crawl – a gut sort of thing.
I want a
NO CONFIDENCE
option on the ballot paper!
If a voter spoils the ballot paper, does it show up under the ‘informal’ category. ie does it get counted as an invalid vote?
What will a “NO CONFIDENCE” vote do?
If someone hasn’t got confidence in anyone else to do (what they see as) the right thing, should they step up themselves and see if people have confidence in what they would do?
Silly comment
the right thing, should they step up themselves and see if people have confidence in what they would do?
a No confidence vote would be useful and specifically show that we think that none of the parties in parliament are catering for those who are truly on the margins nor are any of them dealing with climate change.
Can we have another vote to legalise Marijauna please, otherwise why even register to vote.
Personal Responsibility. If this was in place child poverty could be cut education levels could improve and those in work would feel the pride it brings .. If this happened benefits could be increased to support those that genuinely fall on hard times and that can happen to anyone.
Personal Responsibility – so true Trevor – it’s been out of fashion for decades. Great comment.
It’s extraordinary that people in New Zealand are quick to blame their woes on the Government. My family and friends struggled a lot over the last 30 years but it is ludicrous to blame our own (often poor) personal decisions in life on either a National or Labour Government.
This is often seen in the business sector where there is an almost pathological hatred of any State assistance to the Poor and Neglected.
Regards
Sid
If personal responsibility meant anything…you would not have had the never ending bail outs for Wall St over the last 13 years.
It really doesn’t matter how dim the future looks I love being able to come onto TDB and have a rare good, hearty chuckle at some of the comments, insights and humour.
It makes existence barable. Well done to all involved.
UBR Your pseudo and ‘barable’. go together. Was that a typo or your own contribution to the chuckle?
Yes indeed. Thank you for pointing out my mistooks and eras. And even noticing.
We should all proof read them before pressing send to eliminate such silly things getting throughin future. Especially after the 4th beer of the afternoon and distractions like the cat.
What’s to get excited about? It’s a bog standard National Party Wishlist for the privileged. It will undercut ACT but that’s about it.
Labour despite the dearth of ability in it’s Ministerial ranks will clean up in the next election. Luxon went with the scum – “there are good people….” Middle New Zealand will remember that and vote no….
Trumpian gobsh!te. There are good people on both sides.
Except in Charlottesville
“Speaking in the lobby of Trump Tower at what had been billed as a statement on infrastructure, a combative Trump defended his slowness to condemn white nationalists and neo-Nazis after the melee in central Virginia, which ended in the death of one woman and injuries to dozens of others, and compared the tearing down of Confederate monuments to the hypothetical removal of monuments to the Founding Fathers. He also said that counterprotesters deserve an equal amount of blame for the violence.
“What about the alt-left that came charging at, as you say, at the alt-right?” Trump said. “Do they have any semblance of guilt?”
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/trump-defends-white-nationalist-protesters-some-very-fine-people-on-both-sides/537012/
Trump supporter and MAGA-hat collector Todd Mueller, must be writing Luxon’s speeches?
So let me get this straight. Luxon agrees that Arps is one of the “good people” and Arps should have the right to go and witness public executions of politicians, Maori and Polynesian leaders, health experts and media?
FFS, New Zealand will be the 53 state of the US if Trump and Luxon and his cabal get elected. At least Todd Muller would be great as US ambassador to a Trump US, he already has the hat!
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/trump-defends-white-nationalist-protesters-some-very-fine-people-on-both-sides/537012/
Don’t vote in NZ, vote in Oz. Labour and National are evil.
He should do ok as long as long as Mallard is paraded around Parliament like a little tin god.
I remember an NZ, where most of us were happy and hard working. Where there was a large degree of national unity. Where we were described by overseas analysts as a “rock star” economy and where there actually was a ‘team of 5million’.
What happened?
What the hell are you on about Andrew! There would have been plenty of people that did not feel part of any team of 5 million I would think. If it was so utopian National would still be in government.
The reality is that the rockstar economy didn’t take into account people having to live under bridges and in cars nor did it take into account years of stagnant wage increases, so hardly surprising that overseas we looked to have a rockstar economy when in truth it was completely the opposite. People were so unhappy and Winston new the truth.
Agree it will take 20 years to build through the middle of Auckland, Michael Woods tram set is not a good idea however I have not seen the Cost vs Benefit Analysis. Could be a white elephant.
Agree it will take 20 years to build through the middle of Auckland, Michael Woods tram set is not a good idea however I have not seen the Cost vs Benefit Analysis. Could be a another white elephant.
I felt what Katie Bradford said about Luxon on the TVNZ news spoke volumes.
She said it was more of the same National Party stuff you’d expect BUT…..if Luxon wanted to win over Kiwi’s, he’d have to show them who he is. That’s where the trouble starts. Luxon is at pains to avoid showing his true self as he’s smart enough to know his true self will result in kiwi’s recoiling in droves.
Anti abortion. Anti euthanasia, Anti minimum wage increases. He’s leading the National Party so most people recognize a list of other things he’s anti. The significance of religion in his life is huge but he falls over himself playing that down to voters but it will dominate decisions he makes every day. He owns multiple investment properties and was totally unaware one of those properties resulted in a forty two thousand dollar gain to him for 52 weeks in a row. Oh yes, he can relate to kiwis. Yea right! The other one plays jingle bells.
The time for a highly religious extremely wealthy white National Party leader has been and gone. His biggest positive is the fact he’s not Judith Collins but that’s hardly a recommendation.
He will go for massive immigration National have always done this and then they wonder why we don’t have enough suitable houses and we have run down infrastructure. And who actually benefits the most from massive immigration and who does it actually hurt that is what NZers need to ask.
Bang on Covid is Pa. Overpopulate the country and worry about things later. National fucked the country, end of story.
Indexing the tax brackets is a good thing, so is being able to keep more of what you earn. Luxon is right, you do not have to cut core spending, when simply reigning in wasteful spending and bureaucracy can add up to billions of dollars.
“you do not have to cut core spending, when simply reigning in wasteful spending and bureaucracy”
When has that ever happened in the last forty years? C’mon, we are all grown ups here, we know that when politicians utter these words, all they ever do, is cut or freeze funding to education, health, and conservation.
You mean like failed flag referendums or referendums on electricity SOEs sell offs that you ignored completely, that wasteful spending?
The Dome Headed One has spoken. And you might as well join Biden in staring out of the window, as you ponder what separates him from Key… Don’t waste your time… Nothing.
Tax cuts, nudge nudge, wink wink as if we are too stupid to know.
This man has the political instincts of a goldfish. Ms Ar dern must be laughing up the sleeves of her voluminous green shift.
But at least he has saved us the trouble of mental anguish as to who to vote for.
Nationals tax cuts equate to f…k all. I worked it out to be enough money for a block of cheesed bread, butter and milk money for most people. Putting two dollars and fifteen cents extra a week in the pockets of those that earn 45k and those earning slightly more wont even get $20 extra a week not exactly ground breaking or shifting people from poverty.
At least the Tories tell you they are going to screw the poor – Labour just do nothing but worry about pro nouns and all the other politically correct crap.
@ Fuman Are you and Danny Boy (aka Denny Paoa) related?
He/she has that same LGBTQIA-phobic comments and a hereditary red glow around the back of your necks.
You shouldn’t type these sorts of comments with your back to a mirror in front of your laptop camera.
Aaron Gilmore whom screwed even his parents over. Good ole Tories, it’s all about the money baby!
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