We have just set the date when MIQ restrictions will lift and people stupid enough to travel during a pandemic and got locked out of the country ARE STILL COMPLAINING!
Hospitalization rates are low and mortality rates incredibly low, yet Maori academics are still claiming racism.
The reality is that this transition from Delta has been stressful on everyone of us but the hatred spat at Jacinda and Labour for protecting us so successfully is heartbreaking!
The Woke are screaming that Labour’s policy this is a ‘modern genocide’ against Maori.
Public health academics drunk in their own sense of power are angry Jacinda is taking into account other issues than just their prophecies.
The Bishop Brian Tamaki mob scream Jacinda is the antiChrist.
The Crystal Karen’s scream Jacinda is raping Gaia.
The Qanon lunatics scream Jacinda is Adolf Hitler.
The Death Cult Capitalists scream Jacinda isn’t willing enough to kill her own citizens for the economy.
Grumpy farmers scream Jacinda won’t let them steal and pollute water with cow shit and piss like they used to.
Small Business scream they are on the verge of collapse.
The double vaxxed scream why are they still under house arrest for all these antiVaxx nutters.
We are hitting 90% double vaxxed, our sickness and death rates are minuscule compared to the rest of the planet and Labour’s navigation of this plague will see us celebrate Christmas with Whānau.
Lockdown hasn’t been easy but Labour’s leadership through this crisis despite the tsunami of criticism deserves your vote in 2023.
It really is as simple as that.
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Didn’t Hendy have us hitting 3000 cases a day if we didn’t get 95% vaxed?
It just shows how politically motivated and overblown his modeling was.
Good to see you moving on Frank. I trust you’re well this morning?
If the Govt had ordered the vaccines when originally asked by Pfizer 6 weeks earlier instead of sitting on their hands we would have thanked them. MIQ management has been a disgrace to our country’s egalitarian ethos..
The lockdowns have achieved two things:
1. They have allowed us to lift our vaccination rate, although belatedly. If the vaccination rollout had been handled competently we would have been at 90% six months ago.
2. It’s just postponed the inevitable. Do you *really* think we’ve gotten away with this thing? LOL
At this point it would be in my best interests to get infected, because if I behave like a good boy by masking up and staying home I will catch it in a few months time when the hospitals will be overflowing and the bodies piled high.
Winter is coming…
Gee do you have to be so pessimistic Andrew what a sad sac you are.
A pessimist is what an optimist calls a realist 😉
No. An optimist calls a pessimist, a pessimist. A pessimist with delusions of grandeur, calls himself a realist.
Covid 19 is not seasonal.
Hence why Brazil India have the 2nd and 3rd highest numbers year round.
Covid 19 is not seasonal .
These modellers are the economists of the medical world. We should view their proclamations through that lens. Elements of what is said by them are correct, most of it is wild conjecture and all of it serves the vested interests of power…
”Probably in 2023 when we vote in an ACT lead Government & end this communist dictatorship.’
Bob if Labour really is a dictatorship there would not be any election in 2023 – or ever.
Bob if Labour really is a dictatorship the bullet riddled bodies of ACT members would now be lying by a wall.
Bob if Labour really is a dictatorship Brian Tamaki, Mike Hoskings and Cameron Slater would all now have signed confessions admitting to being the paid agents of foreign powers and begging Jacinda for forgiveness( not to interrogators; if people must sign confessions leave the hands and fingers alone)
Bob if Labour really is a dictatorship anti-vax protests would disperse in panic when Security Forces start shooting.
Bob if Labour really is a dictatorship at around 4.00 am tomorrow people will come to your door and take you away for an early and unexpected Christmas Celebrations.
Get some fucking perspective!
This comment should be laminated and placed on every power pole in N.Z.
Throwing the word ” dictatorship ” around without any understanding of the word is simply ignorant.
Agree 🙂
I agree Da Zhong Tui.
We can speak freely here, especially in regards to any Covid related matter. Misinformation, disinformation, these terms hold no place in our country. And this in of itself is greatly helped by our equally free (of government influence) media. Thank goodness for our government. Thank goodness for our media!
We have freedom of movement, freedom of association, the odd, very, very infrequent lockdown aside. And most importantly, we are free to ignore or accept any government Covid measure that is suggested to us, with zero, absolutely zero consequence to the choice we freely make.
We are free. A dictatorship is the absolute opposite of what we are…..
I agree Frank. The starters gun has not fired yet, that will be Dec 15, and the virus will be out.
I doubt it will take until June before it turns to custard. I hope I’m wrong.
However Bomber is correct we have been very well managed so far.
Unfortunately neither the tribal left or tribal right are able to judge good government subjectively.
Or objectively as it were 🙂
Perhaps we should thank Labour for turning the health department into the GCSB: https://www.health.govt.nz/about-ministry/leadership-ministry/executive-leadership-team
So three of them are Dr’s/Gp’s. The rest are admistrators or spies.
No wonder Big Pharma are making off like bandits.
How much bigger are their pensions as the are dutifully ‘just following orders’?
I agree they deserve praise for their Covid-19 response, but let’s face it, the response was only a success because of our compliance. To suggest that the Covid-19 response alone deserves to get them re-elected is a fallacy in my opinion. You cannot turn your eyes away from all their other failures, even though many in the party will be hoping we all do. That’s the trouble with many on the left though isn’t it, don’t care about the pile of crap the diamond is sitting in, we are just mesmerized by that glistening gem…
Is the at you Mickey Hosking? Attack, attack, attack!!
It NEVER is as ‘simple as that’.
And there are many untold stories and ‘cock up’s’ by this Govt. The ‘fat lady hasn’t even stood up yet, let alone stopped singing’…..my variation on Al Capones great quote.
Well done making the 50/50 call Jacinda, against alot of pressure. But as someone has already said; ….that’s what we pay her for.
Why has there been piss-poor preparation since the lockdown of March 2020? Either we suck as a nation, our poli’s suck or our infrastructure is third world. Or maybe all three?
Why did we open up to Aussie, whilst we were in such a disorganised mess, and ALLOWED, ney invited via a red-carpet’ band playing carnival, Delta to enter?
How we’ve handled every thing post March 202 lockdown is anything to go by, we’re in for a hell-of-a-ride. So maybe hold off with all the back slapping, beer raising, red neck bravado.
I feel very thankful.
If we had had any of the “Open the Gates!” mob in power, some of us would possibly not be here today, some who are here now reading these comments. Others would have lost loved ones without a chance to say goodbye. Yet others would be living with some variant of Long Covid, which can be crippling. The decades old decrepit Health System would be overflowing, so if you had needed urgent hospital care for an unrelated health matter, that would have been jeopardised.
And to those who say that it “just hasn’t arrived yet”, that the worst trauma is still ahead, – to some extent that may be so, I don’t know, but as the hordes of claustrophobic Jafas are about to descend on vulnerable communities it is likely to get worse before it gets better. However, we have been given time to prepare, time to improve our health and resilience, time to understand what is happening and why, and time to take whatever possible precautions. And that makes all the difference.
Thank you Jacinda for ramming through fundamental and constitutional legislation changes under urgency when you’ve had almost two years to tell the public you were going to place your jackboot on their head. Thank you for dividing the country by weaponising health status. Thank you for shutting down debate and censoring all media which doesn’t suit your narrative. Thanks but no thanks.
PS: Neve isn’t welcome in society because she is an unvaccinated potential disease vector. Oh wait on, WE ALL ARE!
Well said
Please. Covid is not deadly. The Delta variant is not deadly. No more than flu anyway. Yes, the vulnerable may die, equally the vaccinated may die. It’s all about power and control. The jab is not effective until you’ve had two shots, and not until two weeks later, and not after six months, oh, now that’s four months… Get a grip folks. Have you ever heard of such an ineffective vaccine, that means you still have to mask up, socially distance, avoid the unjabbed like the plague?? Fear and loathing at it’s vilest towards those who won’t take an experimental gene therapy that doesn’t even work?
Because the vaxxed can still get and transmit Covid. Gibraltar 100% vaxxed is having a big surge of cases.
Crazy stuff. Ivermectin has proven to be a very cheap, very safe and very effective treatment and preventative in the countries that have used it, but it is banned now in many countries. Why? Because that is part of the contract signed between those countries and the vax pedlars. Pure evil.
Are you for real, asshole?
The best way to prove her false, N Spur was to attack her claims with verifiable scientific proof. The fact that you didn’t actually lends weight to her claims…..
Why is Gibraltar having high cases it is because a large chunk of the workforce crosses the border to spain which is highly unvaxed. You anti vaxers always only tell half the story as usual.
Yes vaxed people can spread it but for a shorter time and the chances of them getting it in the first place are vastly reduced.
So stop telling half truths.
C’mon Geoff, just pony up with the verifiable scientific evidence that disproves her claims, and really put the nail in her coffin by providing the verifiable scientific proof behind your claims also. You want to speak the truth, you want to call other people out for their (lack of) truthfulness – then rove them wrong!
Why is it that far too many people in this place are like you Geoff – big on claims – empty on verifiable scientific evidence!
Clearly, this place exists to serve the ruling elites, the rich and powerful because their “controlling” measures are championed here rather than critiqued!
What a place…..
If Govts CHOOSE to give out meaningless data, then you can’t complain when others choose to interpret it they way they interpret it.
But it is hardly a ringing endorsement supporting the vax’ers HOPE.
The figure was 118% I recall, so fair to guess more than 90% of those actually living in Gibralar are vaxxed. And yet they still have a BIG problem.
Latest research (Out of the UK and Sweden) says both vaxxed and unvaxxed have the EXACT same chance of catching and spreading Covid.
Possibly the vaxxed have a 2-3-4 month advantage of less severe (though NOT known to what level) covid IF they catch it, BUT after that they are MORE likely to catch covid and their immune system is buggered against Covid UNLESS they perpetually take boosters.
So an expensive jab, with more side effects than ANY OTHER vaccine ever recorded, NEEDED every3-6 months or you’re highly likely to catch covid.
On a risk reward basis that sounds like a crap option-outcome for those without SERIOUS comorbidities or being ‘very old’.
They have got a lot of monkeys on Gibraltar. We don’t have monkeys here so therefore you can’t compare our Covid rates. /sarc
You forgot about the bleach.
Strawman argument
Hear hear. But how on earth did you get this past the ‘big fat controller’?
I say way less and am seemingly banned with almost ALL of my posts.
Blah blah I know how Greta feels though it is another sphere. A duel at dawn – my expert is better than yours.
What is better than an expert?
For a term that could be used to describe someone more skilled than expert denotes, there’s virtuoso and also maven (although the latter may not have the right feel; I’d be unlikely to use it myself, to be honest). … Alternatively, skilled, accomplished, talented, proficient, or gifted.
More emphatic term for “Expert”? – English Stack Exchange
I think Karen is a virtuoso.
Old song, Anything you can do, I can do better ….
Which of these is better?
Ethel Merman and partner Middleton? in the original – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn8PSd_6bq4
Or Howard Keel and Betty Hutton in colourful spirits – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO23WBji_Z0
One extra plus with the mandates is those of us who are sane will not have to share the same space with nut cases like you Sue Grey Brian Tamaki . The only time we do have to share space could be in hospital but or stay will be much shorter than yours.
Get vaccinated have a life
‘Karen’ is far too good a name for you. You really should change channels. Far too many theories emanate from sources which were discredited months ago. NZ hasn’t experienced COVID in the way so many other countries have. In addition to that, using deaths as a barometer is shortsighted. Do you know how many millions will never fully recover? Do you know anyone who has died or was intubated and survived, only to spend months and possibly years in rehabilitation? Do you? I highly doubt you know anything at all.
What rubbish, living in a country larger than the uk with only 5m people at the bottom of the South Pacific is what has saved us, nothing to do with Jacinta, my 5 year old could have done that. I would argue that if borders were closed earlier than less people would have died, so no, geography saved us not Jacinda lets be honest with ourselves.
Hopefully she will fix, housing or the really poor child poverty, mental health or inflation issues and what this means for our economy, fix this and she will get my support not holding my breath, Luxon is our only option to fix our major economic issues
Groucho Marx had something to say about 5 year olds like you Alan.
Actually the age is going down – as the young are getting feistier and the old are getting mordant.
Why a four-year-old child could understand this report. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can’t make head nor tail out of it. Groucho Marx
Read more at https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/groucho_marx_141793
(This is followed by a really bright adult Marie Curie’s salient, sapient words.)
Nothing in life is to be feared, it is only to be understood. Now is the time to understand more, so that we may fear less. Share this Quote Marie Curie
If you check you will see that Winston Churchill was voted out after the war despite his great leadership during it .
When covid arrived most agree Labour did a great job . This is agreed by most no matter your political leaning . However now when we look to recovery sharp business minds are needed to plot the path back to some sort of normal . This will be a balancing act that will need unpopular decisions to be made and sold to the public . Idiology has to be forgotten as there is no rules for this situation and I do not have much faith in Labour if the last 3 months indicate their reaction time to a fast changing situation.
The question that should really be asked and debated amongst the left is if they didn’t have the Covid-19, would they deserve re-election?
Seems a bit hypocritical of you there Mickeytwoblueeyes. Aren’t you always spouting off about not bringing up the past, John Key being the example. Wouldacouldashouda and all that.
I’m talking about the current government you utter donut. God you’re thick, stop embarrassing yourself.
Oh Mickeytwoblueeyes, all a bit too much for you?
Speaking of being thick, we have got Covid-19, duh!
Alas, she has even kept dissenters like you alive.
Yes, exactly.
….. and so on …..
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