Law and order: Act Party wants checks on gang members’ benefits
The Act party wants electronic income checks for gang members to prevent them from spending any welfare money on alcohol, gambling or tobacco.
Reviews of similar schemes in Australia and New Zealand – where it applies only to young people – are split on how effective they are.
The policy is part of a raft of proposals Act is releasing today in its law and order policy document.
Thank Christ for that.
With all his defence of the individual against the state, freedom of speech and anti big brother over reach, David Seymour was starting to sound barely acceptable, thankfully the frustration of National stealing all ACTs attack lines has goaded ACT in reminding everyone what a pack of dead eyes fascists we always knew they were.
ACT are demanding an electronic Purity test that bypasses the rights of the individual for an online Big Brother who will punish the individual for private choice vices?
Who the fuck are they? The heel clicking nanny state who punishes like a self flagellating mother superior on meth?
That’s who ACT are becoming and appealing to is it?
The infantizisation of adults requiring the mass surveillance state staring over them like the lidless eye of a Puritan God scorching the individual in a sacrificial ceremony to civil rights all for the bloodlust of the lynch mob!
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW DAMIEN GRANT!
Thank the little baby Jesus that David’s intellectual decency has finally been pierced by the fang glinting little Nu Zilind stormtroopers who lurk under his List position.
To expand the power of the State so enormously over the individual, no matter how bad they are supposed to be for some red neck tough on crime virtue signal is a reminder of how hypercritical ACTs ideology is becoming as they roll in the mud with Judith for the most reactionary right wing votes.
How ugly.
Who else will ACT demand should face mass surveillance scrutiny from the Orwellian state they claim to champion against?
Goose stepping never looked so schizophrenic.
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Act is a waste of space. Seymour is a jumped up twit that reeks of white privilege.
Seymour is of Nga Puhi descent on his mother’s side.
Check your racist assumptions.
I notice his ACT site bio mentions nothing of Nga Puhi. It does get trotted out for political purposes but I have yet to see Seymour come out with anything in support of gang member rehabilitation other than punative measures. I wonder what his new policies on white collar crime or abusive landlords may be, electronic monitoring?
The fascist solution to poverty caused by the greedies?
Favourite observation, the policy was announced from an outlet of NZ’s most destructive drug! The ACT dickwits didn’t even make an association with the name ‘Danger Danger Bar”!
A gong show of a policy with enough holes that you could steer the mv evergreen through it.
I expected better however it does highlight the issue that we have a feck load (and growing) of people on benefits. At some stage someone is going to get a coherent policy to contrast the current “give them cake” benefit strategy. Not this time though – D+ at best.
National has hit the lead on highlighting the soft standards with respect to gangs – Seymour unusually missed a beat and is now struggling to keep up.
For 9 years National relied on the ponzi scheme that is immigration for a false economy. Now we are reaping the rewards of an overgrown population of over a million in 10 years. Frankie our beneficiaries have increased pro rata. National missed a massive opportunity to stop the importation of aussie gangs because their pushback by Key was essential soft.
National are an oxymoron on the gang pushback.
Clark and Cullen started this and prior to covid Grunter and the Blairite continued this. It’s not just a National phenomenon although Key did master the strategy. Bertie – our welfare dependents haven’t increased pro-rate since covid – they have increased despite effective full employment!!!
The soft, soft approach to gangs over the last 5 years has resulted in more gang members, more guns and more violence. Your mob owns this and given this will only get worse while this treatment is applied. The opposition will quite rightly ride this all the way to the election.
“they have increased despite effective full employment!!!”
Which gives even more credibility to your lots ponzi scheme. Imagine if XKeyscore stood up to Dutton and showed some guts, we almost certainly would not have the gang population now. My lot, as you put it, are left to diffuse gang issues daily. Good luck with the next election, no chance with the swamp Kauri log or Fred Astaire in charge, none at all.
Simeon will sort these gangs out, don’t you worry about that.
We are developing crypto currencies and 2nd layer solutions like the ‘Lightening Network’ [BOLT Standards].
This is just backwards thinking from ACT. #FreeBritney !!
ACT policy 2020 was the electronic card for Job Seekers after one month (for Sole parents after any child born while on a benefit).
That would be as close to an instant great depression as possible. There’s only one way of raising GDP growth above inflation during a public health crises – raise government borrowing to match the fiscal stimulus required.
All political parties in NZ are fascist, Martyn -promoting the interests banks, corporations and the military- but some are more overtly fascistic than others.
The best way to stop gangs is to cut off the source of their membership This would mean more spending on the parents and children at the bottom of the social ladder and less on them when they commit crime.
A child born into poverty is like new meat to to gangs as they can provide the wealth and support that is missing . No amount of control will stop them once they become a gang member as the more they offend the greater their mana .
All children born should be loved wanted and provided for if these are not there it would be better for the parents to be persuaded to not have children until they are better prepared.
At last someone with an intelligent and mature comment. The ambulance at the top of the cliff.
Right-wing Radio was lauding Richard Prebble’s article in the Herald today, which apparently savaged the Government for trying to help gang members beat meth addiction. I haven’t read the article as I won’t spend money to support that publication.
The Dominionpost also ran an opinion article on the same subject this morning by from Ian Hutson who, from his work, obviously knows a lot more about working with drug addicts than Prebble ever will.
It’s well worth a read:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/125805986/dont-write-off-gang-drug-rehab-programme
Also: https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018804883/former-national-party-minister-no-fan-of-act-gang-policy.
Good to see discover informed commentary instead of having to be deluged with the usual ‘red meat’ bullshit.
Prebble was never really good at anything. Married 3 times and
his colleagues of his time in the Labour party described him as petulant.
He was responsible for the starting of the sell off of state owned enterprises, much to the chagrin of the public of the time.
When in Government Muldoon famously said “we never knew what he was going to come up with next.”
So nothing has changed with Prebble. He is a petulant bitter man who I have no idea why is still on the gray train. His ideas are outdated and he is simply wrong.
Prebble was a wombat in his previous life, doesn’t have a nice thing to say about anyone, way out of his depth on most issues.
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