Labour and the Greens continue to quietly ram through law changes while you aren’t noticing that will gerrymander the current sexual violence laws to ensure anyone accused gets found guilty as part of Labour & the Greens woke mantra as law policy.
The new changes you aren’t hearing about will remove any defence for rape to ensure guilt is found because Labour & the Greens believe the current system isn’t finding all men guilty.
It’s part of a new woke faith based legal system where you must believe women and removes any defence from anyone accused so that 10 innocent men go to jail rather than allow one guilty man to go free.
If a man thought he had consent based on previous sexual history, too bad, he’s a rapist.
It’s the Spinoff threshold of guilt.
Last night Labour argued that it’s the same as borrowing a vacuum cleaner in the past and thinking you can use that vacuum cleaner again.
Unbelievable.
Labour and the Greens are ramming this through as quickly as possible so that the general public don’t know what’s happening.
To specifically construct a legal process to ensure guilt isn’t a justice system, it’s a woke marsupial court.
As far as Labour and the Greens are concerned, due process is a heteronormative white cis male privilege so undermining right to silence and removing contextualisation and intent to ensure guilt is perfectly acceptable.
The woke philosophy at play here is that every single man is a dirty filthy lying rapist, where as every woman is a pure angel who would never lie.
The only difference between a woke lynch mob and a Sensible Sentencing lynch mob is that the woke use sustainable hemp rope.
You know what would be neat? If Labour and the Greens could put as much effort into the housing crisis as they are to ensuring anyone accused of sexual assault is found guilty.
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‘You know what would be neat? If Labour and the Greens could put as much effort into the housing crisis as they are to ensuring anyone accused of sexual assault is found guilty.’
Yep.
Or put some effort into reducing the pace of Planetary Meltdown and preparing NZ for the consequences of not dealing with it long ago.
Not looking at all good:
https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
..but that would require the Wage Slave Labour and No Zealand Groanz parties to be left-wing, and no neo-liberal virtue-signallers…
Advance the video to 1:50 for the grimmest analogy since sexism began. I don’t know that comparing women to a vacuum cleaner is all that intelligent or enlightened. I mean, if inanimate objects was the rule, could she have not picked borrowing a car? People love their cars at least. A vacuum cleaner? Jesus H fucking christ.
Somewhere in Mt. Eden a polished floor home owner is thinking, “I use a broom and a mop. HOly shit they’re trying to make me a polygamist this shall not stand!” I can only assume it’s full moon.
SHUT UP LABOUR PLEASE.
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A little reminder to you borderline misogynists…https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/unresolved-kiwi-victims-of-sexual-violence-deserve-better/DUUZQ3Q2KMWPCBQ2ZRG45K6DCQ/
There’s history here. Heaps of history.
“For every 100 sexual violence incidents reported to police, only 31 made it to court, 11 resulted in a conviction and six in imprisonment.
That puts the unresolved rate at at least 60 per cent – among the lowest resolution rates for any type of crime. Compare, for example, other types of physical assault – where only 24 per cent of offences were unresolved.”
And then when the miracle happens and a case actually gets to court the violence continues.
I get that men feel threatened over this, the rapists amoungst you have got away with too much for too long, and those of you who are outraged at the idea that the playing field…in an attempt to level it…might then disadvantage your brothers need to come up with alternatives to these reforms. Alternatives that acknowledge that men have been getting away with this shit for waay too long.
On the contrary Rosemary 100% of male rape victims never get any justice because if they were to go to the police they would be laughed at.
And if you think males cannot be victims of rape, you are a borderline misandrist.
“100% of male rape victims never get any justice”
Citation please. You can’t go around quoting statistics without some reference to back it up.
Else folks will think you’re just making shit up.
+1
@Rosemary Mcdonald
“Else folks will think youβre just making shit up”
Yeah just like a false rape allegation.
How can there be statistics if 100% of men who aren’t in jail don’t bother reporting rape?
Yes a lot of cases never get to court. And even more never even get to police.
The concern here appears to be the extension of sexual history of the women (now largely accepted) to sexual history of the couple (in dispute), as to court evidence.
The Swedes have a wide range of categorisation of unlawful behaviour related to sexual consent – that they find useful for consent disputation that may apply within relationships.
If we brought in some of their categories – then the couples sexual history would be relevant to some categories of offence (and so juries would be morte likely to find guilty on such charges).
The law used to allow wife rape and wife assault. Now that we charge men for rape and assault on wives, it’s no great move to include legal sanction on sexual activity without consent within relationships.
The issue comes down to a simple rule, past consent does not include sanction of future action. So no means no whenever.
The challenge is of course to the male presumption of possession, that he has rights greater than hers, “as she is his ‘weaker subordinate half/partner”.
Degrees of offence (and thus more convictions) would assist in that process.
http://www.peterellis.org – was a unbelievably massive archive about the CCC Childcare Centre case and literature surrounding it, including the issue of false accusations of sexual misconduct. It hosted a large section listing false allegations and court reports of rape cases that made it to court in the decade post circa 1998. Most of these cases cited were found to a result of a malicious or vexatious complaint.
The point is, false allegations occur. This is a fact.
No crime should be prosecuted as crimen exceptum.
Don’t allow those with a gender political agenda erode centuries-old safeguards of fair trial.
[www.peterellis.org is currently off-line while the case is before the Supreme Court.]
βFor every 100 sexual violence incidents reported to police, only 31 made it to court, 11 resulted in a conviction and six in imprisonment.
That puts the unresolved rate at at least 60 per cent β among the lowest resolution rates for any type of crime. Compare, for example, other types of physical assault β where only 24 per cent of offences were unresolved.β
And then when the miracle happens and a case actually gets to court the violence continues.”
That’s the reality of court. Don’t like it? Don’t go to court.
What’s that? “But- but- but!”
Courts are not magical places there to make you feel better – they’re there to draw legal conclusions and enforce laws.
Sexual assault can be an especially heinous crime – the worst of the worst. But it can also be a misunderstanding between partners that are regularly in dysfunctional relationship with one another. It’s the latter case that presents a serious danger with the new law.
The solution isn’t unbalancing the court to ensure an increase in successful prosecutions, but providing more resources to victims to obtain safety, recover from their experiences, and support their efforts for justice as they need to.
The fact of the matter is, justice for any category of crime *rarely* takes place in the legal system, especially one as serious and traumatic as sexual assault.
Again, the statistics that Jan Logie presented are misleading: unbalancing a court does not result in more justice, it results in less – it just makes the legal system less robust, and more likely false positives would arise.
Because we live in a clown world, we have clowns making clown laws. When clown laws are based on a person’s feelings, yesterday it felt good, today it feels like rape, all rational thinking people will walk off the dating and relationship plantation. With the toxic cess pool of stds and casual hookups that is tinder, polygamy, the modern dating scene, and hypergamy, it already is happening. The #metoo era has also highlighted to men that flirting maybe interrupted as harassment if she doesn’t fancy you so why bother risking not only rejection but also an allegation that could destroy one’s reputation and career.
The problem with woke sjws making laws that deter people from forming genuine relationships, is that there will be a dating apocalypse. The ‘man drought’ of the past will be nothing compared to the thirst of the masses of single women looking for a ‘nice guy’ or a ‘good man’.
Birthrates are already well below replacement level, this isn’t going to change under current settings.
To date and be seen as an attractive prospect in this modern climate as an eligible bachelor, is to have multi millionaire status, a property portfolio, and be prepared to pay a lawyer a large fee to draw up consent contract for sex, and be prepared to go to court when she wants to get some more money out of you.
Now for all the guys who don’t have this status, masturbation, porn and hookers are a realistic alternative without the risk of rape accusations.
With vacuous television programs such as married at first sight and the ridiculous standards men are held to these days, it’s better being single as a man. In fact if you value your freedom, sanity, and wealth it’s the best option.
Sigh. Women insist that “no means no” and they are blamed for all of the ills of modern society.
“Birthrates are already well below replacement level..” …and we’re also to blame for the end of the species?
Men. (Rolls eyes, beats head on desk) You really need to evolve. Control denied… what you have written is largely garbage. Spoiled- brat toddler shit with a smattering of adolescent entitleitis.
(Oh. Is that you, Leo?)
Rosemary when you are wrong, resorting to insults doesn’t prove you are right. Whose acting like an adolescent then?
Men have evolved, as we allways have, to overcome the many challenges we have faced throughout history. Take a look around you, who invented and built most of the stuff you see? Who took us out of the dark Ages? The renaissance men such as Davinci and Galileo. Who figured out how to harness electricity? Tesla and Edison. Who figured out how to beat Hitler? Churchill and Stalin.
Whose trying to lead us into the future on multiple fronts?
Elon Musk.
Look up the term neomasculinity. It may enlighten you.
Men, men, meh (two and half men)
100% Martyn
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