BREAKING: TVNZ Poll – Cannabis referendum 35% yes 53% no

1. I would rather give my money to the people I like who sell weed than to the government.

   • You need to look at the bigger picture, I am against drug use but can see that overall the country will be better off with cannabis reform since the current situation only punishes poor & colored people while assisting gangs. If prohibition was such a good idea it would have stayed on alcohol but we know what happened when that was tried.

2. I absolutely support your argument Bomber, if people could have cannabis freely available they wouldn’t want to kill themselves. A few brave people have posted stories of their lives being saved by the pain reducing qualities of cannabis, thanks to them. There has been a strong move by these nopers to amalgamate any drug not available at the pharmacy under the heading “drugs”, appealing to the self righteous and under educated, thus causing a great deal of harm to ordinary/natural peoples. One has to wonder, what is their vested interest??

   • Jane – As a long time supporter of End of Life Choice, I see it as different from suicide, and far from being simple matter of ending pain.

     Medical science has extended people’s lives well beyond what many want, or could cope with. There are some who go to bed at night, hoping not to wake up in the morning. The quality of life can be grim; not everyone wants to spend their end times wearing incontinence nappies, demented, and having little control over it.

     I visited an elderly lady in care, very upset because a doctor had photographed her genital area without her knowledge or consent, apparently because she had thrush. It is not necessary to photograph thrush. She told the home operators; they seem to have done nothing; it is a case for the Health and Disability Commissioner, but that’s too much for an unwell old person to cope with. She gave me the guy’s name, I’ve searched, and been unable to find any medical practitioner with that name. I suggested she see a social worker about another matter, and perhaps she should on this;I need more advice myself.

     The care home and pharmaceutical industries are lucrative big businesses both dependent on extending the terms of people’s lives, which doesn’t suit everybody. Some people’s objection to legalising marijuana is that control will be captured by Pharmac, another controversial govt entity.

     I’m fairly comfortable with the idea of legalising and freeing police to go after meths dealers , assuming that cops are able to road test pot heads who create a very real danger for other drivers – but that is not in the interests of the meths dealers some of whom also seem to originate off shore.

     • “I see it as different from suicide, and far from being simple matter of ending pain”
       I totally agree.
       Bomber’s habitual tying the issue exclusively to pain is asinine.
       And he ignores a person’s right to the control their own body. He’s no better in these respects to religious fundamentalists who want to dictate people’s sexual practises and ban abortions.

3. Maybe many young people are not as revolutionary and such wastrels as some wish for?

   • Marc: “Maybe many young people are not as revolutionary….”

     Some of them, certainly. Being an old lefty, I’ve always been pro-legalisation. But it’s been younger family who have changed my mind. Until recently, I still wasn’t sure which way I’d vote.

   • Gen Z is actually quite libertarian from all the studies I’ve read they hate bigotry but they hate censorship where as millennials are Uber left wing the following generation seems to quite the opposite.

     Not consersative mind you.

     It does make sense that the next generation rebels against the ideals of the previous generation.

     Wait til gen z hits 30 and I think the right will have a strong new voting block

4. I embrace the poll result which is in my not so humble opinion, completely misleading and virtually irrelevant. It’s a wake-up call for the pro-legalization supporters to make sure they get out and vote. I believe older conservative voters against legalization are highly motivated by the referendum and will not miss the opportunity to vote. Younger voters are less likely to be so motivated. This poll result now takes care of that important aspect.

   Then look at the demographic most likely to favour legalization. Younger people. Reports suggest there are high numbers of younger people registering to vote in this election. Not only will the majority of these voters vote for Jacinda, they will also vote in favour of legalizing cannabis.

   Anecdotal evidence. I have three sons and three daughters. My sons are aged 18,20 and 21. This is the first election all three will vote for. All three will vote in favour of legalization. When the topic is discussed with their mates, the result is always the same regardless of gender. 100% will vote in favour of legalization. My older daughters are all the same way inclined.

   The end result of the referendum will be at least 55-45 in favour of legalization. Take that to the bank.

   • You are a Jacinda Fan, are you representative of ALL NZ?

     • Marc,

       I represent me. Where did I say I represent all of NZ? Seriously lame question.

       You claim to know how young people feel about the subject. Your ignorant statements highlight the fact you wouldn’t know if your arse was on fire.

5. Well who would expect anything else from the mostly severely conditioned, small minded lot that are the majority in this country? Information is gathered from biased peers or selected social media sites, rather than from qualified sources. Listen to some talk back hosts on Magic Talk – they are living in another world, same as their listeners. Rationale is an alien concept for them.

6. Not surprised. New Zealand (like Australia) is actually a fairly conservative country. Then you have “influencers” like Mike Hosking barking on about how bad it is every day, and you have a recipe for this outcome. Let’s make sure cannabis stays associated only with the “criminal underclass” (i.e Maori) where it belongs while we continue to enjoy our far more destructive alcohol habit. Slow clap New Zealand.

7. I think this is misleading. Not everyone watches TV and especially this particular channel. I trust the proper avenue is to vote along with the election papers. Hopefully this question will be in the election paper. Otherwise this is not an accurate measure of the public.

   • Why go to the effort to mislead?

     If so, then one of the reasons may be that it is close either way.

   • +100 Ahmed Asgher ….re “I think this is misleading. Not everyone watches TV and especially this particular channel. “

8. Boomers ..
   .
   Research has shown that THC and CBD can alter the body’s inflammatory response and help avert inflammatory damage being done to tissues and organs. In fact, cannabinoids regulate the exact same inflammatory proteins responsible for some of the damage occurring in COVID-19 cases.

   True Story

9. Or it could just be that 65% of NZ just don’t like cannabis and whatever the argument (even if it’s logical) will fall on deaf ears. There in lies the issue with the Greens/Angry Andy’s approach. Rather than take a softly, softly approach going down the decriminalisation avenue first with necessary controls to push back they decided to go whole hog after talking endlessly with themselves in echo chambers.

10. It’s a democracy, suck it up. We dont always get what we want.

11. Really upsetting poll.

    I’m 77 and a strong YES for cannabis. Even the worst claim – that it will cause psychosis – is disputed by US research. It’s great for our physical and mental health. I want the price for medicinal cannabis reduced so I can afford it.

    I’m definitely NO for euthanasia. I think disabled folk like me (with MS) will be pressured to kark it, particularly when there are weak safeguards to stop this happening.

    Keep up your pressure Bomber

12. At least one of the results is cause for celebration.

13. Not the mood at all where I am in the country. Maybe they only surveyed landlines or something because if anything the vote should be minimum 60% in favor

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