The mighty Trolls Troll no understand…
…like all other members of the Wellington Twitteratti coven (hilariously you all know who they are), Dave is sad and confused.
It’s like the woke middle class identity politics mummy blogger trans ally Green Party cancel culture militant cyclist humourless vegan micro aggression policing activists are incapable of understanding how their behaviour over the last 3 years on social media has done nothing other than alienate voters to the point the Greens are now in danger of sinking beneath 5%.
It’s a process of proxification that the rise of social media has created.
Most people are on social media and most people have a woke middle class identity politics mummy blogger trans ally Green Party cancel culture militant cyclist humourless vegan micro aggression policing activist in their social media feed screaming they are racist, sexist, transphobic etc etc etc, whatever the daily virtue signal is. Now the woke middle class identity politics mummy blogger trans ally Green Party cancel culture militant cyclist humourless vegan micro aggression policing activist certainly thinks they are speaking truth to power by endlessly calling people out for breaches of woke mantra, but to everyone else they are simply toxic.
People stop seeing the political party and only see the activist and in the end proxification means the activist becomes the proxy representation of the Party, and seeing as people have negative feelings towards the proxy, they turn from the Party.
Because the Greens live and die on Twitter the Party are held hostage by their woke middle class identity politics mummy blogger trans ally Green Party cancel culture militant cyclist humourless vegan micro aggression policing activists so anyone attempting to move beyond pure temple politics to broadchurch politics is immediately lynched in the resulting cancellation call out.
Without solidarity, there is no movement.
Remember the Pride Parade and how it imploded after the Woke hijacked it? That’s the Greens now.
Moving forward maybe two possible ideas could be considered.
Asking all woke middle class identity politics mummy blogger trans ally Green Party cancel culture militant cyclist humourless vegan micro aggression policing activists to remove any reference whatsoever to being Green Party supporters so the proxification process doesn’t happen or maybe a separating of the Party itself?
You could have the Identitarian Greens who call out, Action Station Petition and cancel any micro aggression breaches of woke mantra and the Socialist Greens who focus on radical climate change adaptation and neoliberal economic hegemony dismantling.
That way the Identitarian Greens can continue alienating voters and the Socialist Greens could ignore the middle class virtue signalling and actually move on with preparing for Climate Change and dismantling the oppression of neoliberal economics.
When you are class left, the demarkation of power in society is between the richest 1% and their 9% enablers vs the 90% rest of us, that’s how we win the democratic majority, but when you are a woke Identity Politics activist, all men are rapists, all white people are racist and anyone supporting free speech is an actual uniform wearing Nazi.
The identity politics activists are incapable of seeing how their woke purges have pushed away Green voters.
The Right look for recruits, the Left look for traitors.
I say all this as someone who has voted Greens all my life and I’ve only been pointing this trend of proxification out for 3 years now.
The last hope for Green representation in Parliament post this next election is Chloe winning Auckland Central.
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The saddest thing is that now, more than ever, ever before, we NEED A TRUE GREEN PARTY!
but…
well…
y’know…
…we just have to find one first?
(Okay, just half kidding.) Seriously though, look at what’s happening in the US! The West Coast of America is going up in flames. Aus burnt down and burnt out a few months ago. etc. etc.
Jays You are so innocently hopeful – next time we’ll get it right! Keeping trying is what counts, there is always tomorrow. Keep it up and shine it out, it will keep other people from sinking into despair and lethargy.
Don’t we get sick of those ‘teacher like people’ eh?
Chloe is never ever going to win Auckland central. Get real!
Well, three years ago many people were saying that about a young woman who was running for NZ P.M.
The results were other than expected 🙂
Perhaps the problem is that the Greens – like Labour before them – have been captured by establishment liberalism, which is dragging them towards the centre-right?
“Through a series of unfortunate but certainly understandable distortions of political terminology, the [modern American] liberal position has come to be known as a left-wing position. Actually, it lies right alongside the conservative tradition, down toward the middle of the line, but decidedly, I think, to the right of its center. Liberals believe in concentrated power — in the hands of liberals, the supposedly educated and genteel elite.”
– Karl Hess, 1975
If this is what participation in Parlourmint politics inevitably does to left-wing movements (Labour, the Alliance, Maori Party, and now the Greens), perhaps the logical conclusion is that electioneering is not an effective way to progress left political goals? Could it be that the anarchists were right all along?
Yep Danyl 100% correct there. GP needs an overhaul as Green Party “have been captured by establishment liberalism, which is dragging them towards the centre-right”? you asked.
Winston saw this firstly that’s why he was unwilling to go along with most of their policies..
That’s a great question Dave. Indeed why would anyone on the left vote for a bunch who either support the status quo or openly demonstrate they can’t stick to their own policies on the environment and climate change?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/09/jacinda-ardern-megan-woods-explains-why-mining-on-conservation-land-continues-despite-promise-to-end-it.html
http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2020/09/labour-on-energy-business-as-usual.html
The Great ‘woke middle class identity politics mummy blogger trans ally Green Party cancel culture militant cyclist humourless vegan micro aggression policing activist’ !
Except back in my day we used to just call em ‘do gooders’.
But its been around for a lot of years, now, Martyn, and before that it was called ‘woke’ it was called ‘politically correct’. Or, if we were honest, – Stalinism. But that’s just another generations way of saying the same thing.
So the last great hope for the Green party is a candidate who was courted by both Labour and the Greens after her failed mayoralty bid and only went with the Green party because a top fifty list ranking under little looked implausible and a top ten ranking under the Greens three years ago looked rock solid. Oy.
I’m going to party vote Green, if the Greens want my electorate vote they better release some electorate polling that says she has a chance and if she does I will…
However having the Luke Mijohns of the world and the faux Marxists who think that throwing money at winz will solve the welfare problem (it won’t you’ll need to purge the staff otherwise they’ll just keep denying people the money to begin with and that involves taking on the PSA) that alternate between abusing,guilt tripping, begging labour voters to vote for them and the sjw wing who thinks that anyone who doesn’t vote green is an actual Nazi I’m not sure I want them back. Like. I’ll vote for them, but a term out of parliament might do the world of good.
They need to get back the young male voters who ditched them for top every young male lefty was a greenie six years ago now … Honestly … I think young male Lefty’s are just disinterested in politics altogether after being blamed for all the world’s problems for five years. The left needs to fix it’s inability to talk to young men. I’d prefer the Maori party got back in and the greens sit this term out at this rate.
I’ve never read such a blatant load of blithering bullshit on the usually reliable and very readable Daily Blog. This is pigeon-holing and stereotyping of the worst kind. And some of the comments from the supposed left wing anonymous opinionatti (as well as the odd right wing ones) is just mindblowingly mindless to say the least. ‘Politically correct’ is Stalinism? I mean, really? That’s a pretty big stretch. I don’t think calling out the use of offensive language, for example the ‘N’ word, (to take a most obvious example of what is understood by the term ‘politically correct’) is in any way comparable to murdering hundreds of thousands of your political opponents, or placing entire racial groups into re-education internment camps, as our most current Stalinist/capitalist regime does.
As a passionate environmentalist and animal rights campaigner I’m as disappointed in the current incarnation of Green politicians as anybody, mainly for their dropping of the ball on some key issues that should be at the core of their philosophy, but I do believe that it doesn’t help any of us to employ Black American terminology of street awareness to denigrate those professing to fight for the rights and recognition of minorities. After all, at the heart of any sense of justice, environmental or social, are the rights of the disadvantaged, the disavowed and the alienated. Let’s look at some of these free-form terms of abuse. Middle class. Hmmm, that just says ‘educated’ to me. I’m not sure if we really have much of a middle class left to speak of. We have a gutted middle class due to the ravages of neoliberalism, the displacements of technology and other postmodern diseases. Militant cyclist. Well, car culture has really got Auckland moving fast into the future hasn’t it? Not. Humourless vegan. I think the main reason vegans may be seen as humourless is that everywhere they look in this violent culture they see the propaganda of animal flesh and animal body fluids marketed as natural goodness and vital to human survival whilst glossing over in the most slippery evil ways the impact it all has on climate disruption, water pollution, the human propensity to hold out against heart disease, diabetes and colon cancers, and also the gross exploitation, cruelty and suffering our entire culture is based on.
VJM publishing’s latest essay explains the move away from the class war to the woke race war.
I think Bomber had more fun hitting cut and paste than I did reading said cut and pastes. But yeah, people don’t like being lectured.
This next Greens policy release sounds good, — Can it go further? It will need more funding/ investing than they’ve allowed for so far: Greens Fund for Farms
This, combined with their Poverty Action Plan is causing me a deeper re-think, and it is drawing me back. I’m thinking I’ll go Green after all (despite the crappola that was being churned out along the way) .
The Greens Poverty Action Plan is one main part of the change that is needed if we’re to survive the times ahead. It looks better every time I read it.
(And, Sepuloni’s “Overhaul” / wink-wink nudge-nudge b.s. released today, just gives the finger to any thought of such change from within Labour.)
Thank you for highlighting the absolute tragedy the Greens have become- when, as Californian climate change fires burn, we need them more than ever.
Ms Davidson has deliberately cut off potential white male voters because she says we are not wanted- even though I could name 18, myself included, who have voted Greens for the past few elections and would have this time.
She says because we are white, male, stale, rapists and racist – as if we are gun-carrying Trump supporters- we are not welcome into the Green camp.
So we will vote Labour.
The woke activists post-election defeat will blame James Shaw-a man after all, and the party will disappear.
Thanks Martyn for at least trying to show them the disaster they have triggered. You reap what you sow.
A white male writes. As a daughter, mother, sister and wife of white males, I do sympathise with you. You’ve all been dreadfully demonised, and undeservedly so.
I’m not a great adorer of men per se, but there’s not a lot of gender choices for heterosexual women, and we’re very much on the outer also. Lesbian women sometimes seem to regard us as traitors, but gay men are okay with us- my best male friends are gay.
But Greens have designated all of us racist – which is nuts – and seriously unfunny when it is so socially destructive and divisive. That was a whack in the guts for me. Worse, I’ve had Maori relatives, friends, and colleagues for years, all interacting in the usual ways, and suddenly these so-called politicians are assuming we’re polarised. Not true. They are.
Most women, including me, have had bad experiences with men, but this is not a rational basis for writing them all off. Stuff happens. Stuff happens to many people. But there’s a vogue among the contemporary power hungry to elicit our sympathy and lever off that, to try and lecture us. Prince Harry — “ My mother died” – is one of the worst; a politician with a kiddy-fiddler uncle, has no need to share that information with country.
We all have our own shadows, we carry them as best we can, and there are times we carry others’.
Robert Frost:
“ Beware of coming too much to the surface,
And using for apparel what was meant
To be the curtain of the inmost soul.”
I feel sorry for our young guys having this constant pus dripping down from the Greens on top of Bill English’s consigning them all to the rubbish heap, and very much hope that they realise they are not the problem. The problem is people in Parliament who may just be too emotionally immature to be there, and too dumb to realise the damage they’re doing – or have other agendas.
Kia kaha.
Read the policies and vote on what you believe in. Denigrating a whole party for the perceived actions of a few doe not invalidate the policy.
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