3 thoughts on this over the top gun raid on a far right gun nut.
1 – I’ve had the Police breach my civil rights & seen the nonexistent checks and balances and won’t tolerate it happening to anyone else regardless of their political opinions.
2 – Over the top actions like this for a gun part that didn’t exist only radicalises paranoid gun nuts, it doesn’t keep us safer.
3 – Watching the woke cheer abuse of police power on social media is nothing more than tribal wank.
Watching Woke Twitter cheering armed NZ Police wrongfully kicking down doors for a part to a replica 1890s gun that wasn’t even there is the Woke at their most ethically redundant.
Let’s be clear, I have no time for gun nuts but even less for a Police force out of control.
It’s like the Woke and the NZ Police are hell bent on ensuring ACT get 3%!
If this raid represents police intelligence we are in more danger than I imagined – over the top police responses for gun parts that don’t exist based on nothing more than online bragging????
I’ve read the ‘April blog’ where Dieuwe de Boer is supposedly ‘bragging’ about a replica gun he has and unless I’ve missed something – while he’s a disagreeable prick with some terribly damaged views, sending in this kind of over the top response by police only makes him a martyr – this is dumb policing!
Look, I have no time for gun nuts & I support the new gun laws (I don’t support the new expansion of search powers which seem incredibly easy to abuse) but a Police abuse of power to make examples of people is something no one on the Left, Right or Centre should ever tolerate or want in New Zealand.
This reeks of a fishing expedition to find examples to punish publicly.
The same people cheering Police for this ridiculously over the top gun raid were screaming when it was the Ureweras but the greatest hypocrisy is the statement by Simon Bridges that he is suddenly worried about the ‘politicisation’ of the Police…
Simon Bridges fears ‘politicisation’ of police after raid of right-wing activist’s home
Simon Bridges fears the police are being influenced by politicians and is urging the Police Commissioner to “guard against politicisation” of the police force.
The leader of the Opposition was responding to news that a right-wing activist’s Auckland home was raided last week by half a dozen police officers over suspicion he held an illegal firearm.
“What has happened is plain wrong,” Bridges told Magic Talk’s Peter Williams. “This guy on the face of it has done nothing wrong… There are gangs and real extremists in this country.”
…with all due respect, while I certainly do think this is a politicisation of the Police and they were desperately trying to find a gun owner to make a public example of, for Simon Bridges of all people to suddenly be concerned about this is grotesquely outrageous.
Remember Nicky Hager? Remember how the Police suddenly raided his home illegally in the wake of Dirty Politics? Why is Police ‘politicisation’ suddenly a problem when it’s aimed at a petty far right gun nut with deplorable opinions? Why wasn’t it a problem when the leading investigative journalist in NZ was illegally raided after exposing terrible political abuses of power?
The Woke might be unbelievably tribal and intellectually short sighted in their championing of the Police action, but Simon’s sudden concern is appallingly hypocritical.
The ‘woke twitter’ types control the Left now. The state of NZ politics is only going to get worse, and they will be driving a lot of it.
No way. Woke Twitter controls the lavatories. Woke Twitter blooms when debating and ideas retreat.
Sure looks that way Sean doesn’t it.
Read the comments on the related articles on fb, it’s shocking how many people cheerlead the loss of others civil liberties and basic rights out of blind ideology and hate of the “other”.
In war time various names have been given to such people, it is a mentality that allows the worst abuses of civil liberties by authority.
Worth dwelling on for Martyn too with his constant “gun nut” smear for those he doesn’t understand.
Good government is for all of a population, not just those you agree with.
The woke are well on their way to seeing their team is a one term government and most of them won’t see it coming such is their self righteous denial of reality.
A who-knows-how-sketchy survey by new conservatives reckons 46 percent of gun owners who replied, are changing their votes over the gun law debacle. That’s about 120000 votes looking for a home and I’ll tell you where that home isn’t.
From that linked page (main article):
Simon Bridges fears the police are being influenced by politicians and is urging the Police Commissioner to “guard against politicisation” of the police force.
“Police being influenced by politicians…” That rings a bell.
13th August 2014 Nicky Hager’s book, ‘Dirty Politics’, was released. That book contained sufficient evidence of corruption against then Minister of Justice, Ms Collins, that by the end of the month she resigned.
Barely a month later, in the first days of October, Nicky Hager’s home was raided. Five police officers arrived and spent ten hours searching his house. They took “a large collection of papers and electronic equipment belonging to my family, including computers, drives, phones, CDs, an iPod and a camera,” he wrote on his website at the time.
Standard practice in a search for evidence of hacking? Yet no such raid was carried out on National Party staffer Jason Ede, who had been directly accused of hacking (into the Labour Party website).
Simon crying “Politicisation of the police force…”
Yeah. Right.
And, to understand the import of that, think of all the info you keep on your computer and phone, and any backups. Think what it would mean for your day to day life to have all that suddenly removed. For Nicky it was worse. This was his livelihood, his life in effect. They may as well have cut off his arms and legs, in terms of the crippling effect that must have had on his life at that time.
The gun buy back was a disaster for Labour the cause was correct but they tried to do it on the cheap and did not get those they needed to win over on side. Now the police are the enemy to otherwise law abiding citizens. Gun crime continues so we know there are many weapons out there and the only one pounced on is a right wing blogger. I listen to the National station news and the basis of this police swoop was question on 2 occasions and then it vanished. I thought this was going to be the most open government yet.
Trevor,
The gun buy back was most definitely not a disaster for Labour. You’ve been reading far too many of Bridges “hit jobs” and water on a stone trolling from Nat Party cheerleaders. From the moment the Me Me Me Latrine Rodent were sent packing, the narrative has been the same. The Coalition Government won’t last six months. The Sky is falling in. Everything they do is a disaster. They won’t last a year. They will only be a one term Government bla bla bla.
How National can ever criticize the efforts of another Government in the area of housing is beyond me. Their indifference toward an unfolding housing crisis was absolutely staggering. They should be the very last people in our beautiful country to bleat about the subject.
The Gun lobby have been wielding their political power year in year out. How dare anyone challenge the status quo. That amounts to the same audacity for any party in NZ to ever think they could Govern NZ. Only National of course are worthy of Governing.
Ardern had to do something when the massacre unfolded in Christchurch. We are all sick to death of the same fucking bullshit narrative that gets spouted out by Trump every time there is yet another massacre of innocent young people in the States. “Our thoughts and prayers” go out to the family and loved ones of all the innocent young people slaughtered in their prime by those who routinely exploit the second amendment to the United States Constitution ….you know, that’s the amendment regarding the right to bear arms. Unfortunately, back in 1791 the founding fathers were talking about a completely different arms to bear than what we have now. A revolutionary era soldier for example could fire off three musket shots in 60 seconds. A modern AR-15 can fire off 100 rounds in ten seconds. They are light years apart in the damage they can cause yet both fall under the same right to bear arms amendment. Ardern had to act and she needed to do so quickly. We all appreciate the gun lobby would have preferred they just stick to the tired old useless “thoughts and prayers” horse shit. Anything else to them is a disaster. The saddest part of all this is the gun lobby being the ones with the loudest voice when that should be the families who’ve had to endure the pointless execution of their treasured family member by some shitheel and his / her rights.
When they were debating the law change the estimate was 150000 guns and buy back could cost in the range of $2 billion. The figures so far are 56000 guns handed in at a cost of $64m so there are a lot of guns still out there. The ones handed in would be from those who cannot risk getting on the wrong side of the law but many of those would be angry at Labour for the imposition .
Its not all about you Ben you vote act you vote for the rich pricks anyway cause that is all the one man party cares about. see-more is happy for low income people to languish on low wages and insecure work at a time when housing costs are at an all time high and act supported selling off two thousand state homes. Homelessness was exacerbated by acts and nationals’ policies two policies that attributed to homelessness and more inequalities are more immigrants (for cheap labour and selling of assets) now isn’t that interfering with the market and isn’t the market suppose to provide through competition driving down costs. Did this happen to our power nah! it keeps going up.
Carryon wrote January 16, 2020 at 3:32 pm
Deer hunters. They are called deer hunters in NZ.
Sounds like you are all over it
Ahh – We can call them what we like, mate. And no, I’m not going to give you specific directions to the farm/ station I’m on, which you seem to be angling for. Enough!
PS: There’s a few choice words that I would like to call some of them around here… Am exercising considerable restraint in not doing so.
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