When I heard ‘Sir’ Ron Brierley had been arrested for child pornography, my immediate thought was ‘He must have A LOT of child porn for a rich architect of neoliberalism to get arrested’.
He is alleged to have had 207 000 images & 500 videos!!!
Jesus wept that’s so much evil in one place.
‘Sir’ Ron was a corporate raider in the era of the Greed is Good deregulated 1980s. He brought enormous wealth to his echelon of social vampires all keen to suck the blood of whatever business ‘Sir’ Ron had guttered for the gods of neoliberalism.
IF these hideous allegations of child pornography are proven and anything less than evidence of his computer hacked and these images inserted offered up, he must be stripped of his knighthood immediately.
He gained his knighthood for devouring the weak and spreading that bloody harvest to others who shared the same ethical values of your average South American Drug Cartel. If he has descended beyond selfish malignancy for riches to outright evil, let those weak he devoured be the reason his knighthood is stripped from him before he dies so the grave can promise no respite.
That would be justice most high.
Looks like he’ll have to kill himself.
He was always an oddball. One of my neighbour friends went to work for him straight out of uni, became a rich and high profile NZ’er, serialised with trollops, aggrieved when his wife dumped him.
I am opposed to death penalties – except for pedophiles. Or dump them in dungeons where they can’t top themselves.
The Queen’s Knighthood needs to be recognised for what it now is, the badge of dishonour for the disreputable who revel in their own and each other’s slipperiness. They should have to wear it in public so that we know them for what they are.
Only kiddie toucher I knew went to church 2 times a week.
Apart of me wants to deprive other inmates of killing him slowly while on suicide watch.
Given our attitudes towards pedophilia they really do get forced into a corner and we do force them to do something.
Taking away this guys worldly possessions and having him live under a bridge wouldn’t be beneficial either because that just increases the likeliness of reoffending.
… ‘ The Queen’s Knighthood needs to be recognised for what it now is, the badge of dishonour for the disreputable who revel in their own and each other’s slipperiness. They should have to wear it in public so that we know them for what they are’….
Indeed.
it want just be him pandoras box has been opened
Interesting how wealthy and powerful people abusing there power are finally getting caught out doing this sort of shit when in fact many have been carrying on with this behaviour for ages. He probably won’t even go to jail he probably will get a wet bus ticket. Same old shit the rich and powerful get away with this bullshit. How are we suppose to have any faith in the justice system. Where is hoskings he should be calling for his knighthood he runs down everyone especially the poor, the brown and downtrodden. Oh that right hosking is selective.
Michelle: “….when in fact many have been carrying on with this behaviour for ages.”
Oh really. And you know this: how, exactly?
“He probably won’t even go to jail he probably will get a wet bus ticket. Same old shit the rich and powerful get away with this bullshit.”
I doubt it. He’ll be tried by the Oz judicial system, which isn’t known for its hearts-and-flowers approach to such matters. Remember that not long ago, Cardinal Pell got a jail term for paedophilia. In any event, the damage to Brierley’s reputation has been catastrophic already: that’s what happens to those with a high profile.
“Where is hoskings…”
Who?
It puzzles me that you’d take any notice at all of a two-bit radio jock who loves the sound of his own voice. The rest of us don’t.
Here’s what Martyn’s link says about Brierley’s arrest:
” The 82-year-old was arrested at Sydney airport as he was about to board a plane to Fiji and charged with six counts of possessing child abuse material, according to a police statement.
The arrest followed a five-month police investigation, reportedly sparked by an anonymous phone call to Crime Stoppers in August.”
Note that he is also reported to have made frequent visits to Thailand, and to have had a predilection for teenage prostitutes. In Thailand, the age of consent is 15. So: while we might consider it creepy of an old man to have sex with teenagers, unless they were under 15, it was perfectly legal for him to do that.
Regarding paedophilia, it’s unfortunately a part of the human condition; mostly, but not exclusively, a male problem. The literature suggests that rehabilitation is difficult at best, impossible at worst; that’s to a considerable extent because paedophiles don’t see anything exceptionable in their behaviour, and use all sorts of excuses to justify it.
“…especially the poor, the brown and downtrodden.”
Oh, enough with the woe-is-me stuff already! It’s tiresome.
And in respect of paedophilia, the DIA has in recent times put considerable effort into catching paedophiles who go online. Those caught have tended to be better-off and white; as you’d know if you paid any attention at all to the crime reports.
This doesn’t in any way mean that poor brown (and white) men aren’t also paedophiles; they are. But it’s a bit less likely that they’ll be caught online. In such cases, the judicial system is rather more dependent upon victims coming forward to “out” their abuser.
D’Esterre- ” Oh, enough with the woe-is-me stuff already! It’s tiresome.”
This may be tiresome to you, but that dismisses the reality of children whose lives are impacted by the corrupt and the debauched.
Just because pedophilia may have long been “part of the human condition” is no reason to accept it any more than we should accept murder, warfare, poverty, or torture or anything which harms others – in this case, small, often pre-pubertal others. This is not the Place de Pigalle, or even the hookers of Naples.
Do not imagine that everyone who sells their body for sex enjoys it – many here in NZ do drugs just to cope.
The children of Asia supplying the lucrative sex and porn industry are not necessarily willing participants.
They may be inveigled into it, and sold into it, sometimes by their own parents, sometimes in payment of debts, sometimes believing recruiters who visit villages promising a promising future which can help to support an impoverished family.
They may think that they are going to be trained in a trade or service, and the trade or service turns out to be sex, nearly always for men – maybe dirty old men, or drunken louts, or perhaps a visiting sports team, or conference participants let loose into the night.
Some children are kept as actual slaves. Many are drugged. They can service numerous men a day. They are often filmed, and provide the images such as the 207 Brierley had, and the 500 videos which make big bucks on the dark internet.
Off camera, directors direct, and they direct very explicitly.
If you think that these victims are necessarily capable of coming forward to “out” their abuser, then that’s a bigger ask than of the two-thirds of our own adult domestic violence victims conditioned into learned helplessness, and remaining silent.
Further, why should a 6 or 7 or 8 or 9 or 10 or 11 or 12 year old come forward to out their abuser, when they do not know that they are being abused ?
This is the reality created for them by people like Brierley. Their future is anybody’s guess.
Applewood: I think that you’ve misinterpreted my entire comment.
Best not to attribute to it meanings that just aren’t there.
Thx for typing all of that out AppleW.
To sell sex in Thailand must be over 18 https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1139107-karaoke-sting-nabs-thai-woman-offering-underage-girls-for-sex/
Bruce: “To sell sex in Thailand must be over 18…”
The link you’ve provided doesn’t actually say that. The girl was simply described as 17 and under age. That could mean the age is 20: no way of knowing from that piece.
I had to go to this one to find that out:
https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/weekly-column/2006/05/the-age-of-consent-in-thailand/
“So what is the age of consent in Thailand? Thai law states that the age of consent is 15 years of age. But to confuse matters a little, when it comes to commercial sex, that is prostitution, the age of consent is not 15, but 18. To really confuse matters even further, there are laws that state that those under 20 are not allowed to enter certain establishments, although this is not an age of consent issue as such, but a law related to alcohol consumption.”
It may be the latter that was meant in that link you posted: the girl in question was under age to be in a bar, not just under age for sex.
Michelle “Where is hoskings he should be calling for his knighthood he runs down everyone especially the poor, the brown and downtrodden. Oh that right hosking is selective.”
I don’t know why you’re calling out Hosking here. It is giving him a recognition and importance that he does not deserve.He has no standing in this matter, and he has zero standing in the community.
Hosking is simply a media entertainer paid to entertain the dumb masses, that’s all.But every time someone like you acknowledges him, and reacts to him, it helps to secure him in his job.
@michelle – you are onto it.
There would have been signs all along. People in his past are now recalling little signals they now recognise as a mark of a predator.
Now that having a knighthood seems to be about how much money and political connections you cultivate, no surprises he’s been arrested for child porn.
As well as being a drugs narco paradise in the pacific, apparently foreign child abuse is rife ever since they started profiling pedo’s going to Asia countries.
Will the Aussies export him to NZ in handcuffs after he’s served time like other New Zealanders? Perhaps a year or two at Manus Island first.
No they can’t he is now an Aussie.
Yeah, probably. Unless it causes them to miss out on taxes or some such.
Some schadenfreude here — linger on that — but that’s not enough. The prima facie evidence is pretty telling, that this Knight of the Realm is, whether directly or indirectly, a child abuser. That is to say, the lowest of the low. That being so, Applewood’s preference for the death penalty is very appropriate. Of course, he may do it himself, a la Jeffrey Epstein. But I hope he lives long enough — more schadenfreude — to see his various honours, including buildings/sports grounds/scholarships named for him, humiliatingly (and promptly) removed, and his reputation ground utterly into the dust and dirt and grime of everlasting shame.
Actually, not “schaden”-freude — the schaden implies shame. Neither “freude”, pleasure. “Grim satisfaction” would be the better expression.
Hi Tom — Schaden actually does mean damage or harm. I think you’ve got Schaden mixed up with the similar- looking word Schande. Schande means shame in the strongest sense, an indelible stain on one’s reputation. But having said that you’ve got me thinking, maybe we should invent a new word: Schandefreude.
Touché! You response led me to find this link https://lithub.com/not-just-a-german-word-a-brief-history-of-schadenfreude/ and I am now better informed.
So both schadenfreude and grim satisfaction appropriate responses to the “Knight’s” predicament
Tom Gardner: “So both schadenfreude and grim satisfaction appropriate responses to the “Knight’s” predicament.”
I’m not sure about either of these responses.
I’ve long thought that schadenfreude is one of the more unlovely aspects of German culture.
While I suppose that it might be an appropriate response from somebody who knew Brierley and either disliked him or had been treated badly by him, it doesn’t seem to fit for the rest of us.
On first hearing the news, my initial reaction was shock, quickly followed by revulsion. Paedophilia is a particularly egregious crime, in my view. I cannot think of any mitigating factors which might apply to a paedophile.
I think we are on the same page. Yes, egregious; yes, no mitigating factors. Paedophiles are utterly beyond the pale, and the protection of children should absolutely trump any considerations that a defence/human rights lawyer might come up with.
My thoughts on this is he(Brierley)is indeed one dirty old man. Why the Hell have so many videos of child pornography? How sick can a person be to want so many images of something that many find utterly revolting and despicable???
My other thought is now why the Hell should he keep being addressed as Sir Ron Brierley? Surely his actions should result in INSTANT removal of the knighhthood?
Which now puts the knighthood system under the need of a very strong microscope on analysis. How many “Sirs” and “Dames” have been caught out over the years doing deeds that have been highly questionable? How many, despite being taken to court, still hold onto their knighthoods?
I am thinking the day of giving a person a knighthood in recognition for business dealings or political office needs to end as we enter into 2020. And those ‘knights’ of the recent past 20 years need to have their knighthood automatically cancelled once they appear in front of a court for say an investment company going belly up.
The predatory asset stripper, who assisted in the loss of BNZ to Oz and thus was welcome across the Tasman, aided and abetted the profits of those who stripped the innocence of young ones.
But the self-interest greed is good mantra still leaves children across our nation in poverty and many aging boomers voters support this continuing.
They would rather have their tax cuts than students finish university without debt, rather have their super paid out while they still work rather than have beneficiaries have their harsh abatement regime lifted etc
I just want him locked up nothing more so that he cannot do anymore harm. He will when he is locked up be kept separately from other prisoners because they are regarded as the lowest of the low. If you are uploading this shit then you are complicit in the abuse that is being carried out, you might as well be carrying it out yourself.
I cannot see how he couldn’t go to prison frankly for the rest of his life.
Why was he on his way to Fiji what was he going to do there. All those visits to Thailand over many years where he said he saw teenage prostitutes, was that the only thing.
Not many people really should go to prison frankly but anyone doing this amount of damage needs to.
Well he is rich so he will hire the best defenders who will argue the evidence was planted by a disgruntled business competitor (or similar), and they will state the evidence is circumstantial.
References for good character, + knighthood.
If he uses his right to silence then he might run free shortly.
I was told he liked boys.
He like to take young boy and make girl, pay for the hormone, turn to girl at age 14 for him, when he take.
Sanjporn: “turn to girl at age 14 for him, when he take.”
Given that the age of consent in Thailand is 15, that by itself would make his actions illegal, never mind the creepiness of the rest of it.
D’Esterre – “…never mind the creepiness of the rest of it.”
I guess kids crawling down chimneys and along coal mine tracks was a bit creepy too.
Applewood: “I guess kids crawling down chimneys and along coal mine tracks was a bit creepy too.”
You’ve lost me here. What has this to do with what Sanjporn said above?
Cost NZ billions with asset stripping and destroying companies, which were running fine before he came along, and dismantled them. In competition with Roger Douglas, as to who could remove the most wealth from New Zealand.
Brierly’s predatory interest in children was well know as far back as the early 90’s…all those trips to Thailand [deducted as “business” expenses]. It was seemingly tolerated with a nod and a wink from the Establishment…while others less connected went to prison.
Knights were always bastards – it’s a hierarchy thing. They given the reward for protecting the elites.
So no reason why not that our modern knights are just as evil and bastards as the good old days.
Down with the monarchy, and all the scum who support it’s brutalisation of children.
adam – Parsifal was ok – although my son breathes sighs of relief that he wasn’t named after him. One or two of King Arthur’s others were a bit dodgy, but they inspired the great literature which Key and English certainly never will; they had ideals, that’s why,
An epic masterpiece on Sir Key’s wish for a new flag ? Oh boy. But. But. I think a Wagnerian opera could be based on Sir Bill flogging off the family silver, where the anti-hero triumphs, the poor queue at food banks, and a formerly fat lady sings of other people’s sex sex sex.
Well said Martyn my brother.
Yes Sir Ron Brierley, – he was evil, and we remember when he and his agent of caitalism “Roger Douglas”
In the Hawkws Bay/Gisborne regions we suffered so much damage by this “leech” as Ron Brieley was a classic “carpet bagger”
‘Sir’ Ron was a corporate raider in the era of the Greed is Good deregulated 1980s. He brought enormous wealth to his echelon of social vampires all keen to suck the blood of whatever business ‘Sir’ Ron had guttered for the gods of neoliberalism.
We love this post mate, – and we offer to you a happy Xmas to your family.
Strange that, OLD guys (and Gals) just like ‘young things’, just look at Hollywood, Bollywood and the Chinese equal, it is all over the show, just so obvious. Especially the rich pricks can ‘afford’ to have ‘young things’. Weinstein got away with it for years, until someone thought, hey no good.
But ‘Sir Ron’ went ‘a bit too far’, so broke the law, hence NO pity.
He rose to riches, he will fall in disgrace and perhaps go to ‘hell’, as some would say, so the world and humanity goes.
Who knighted the bastard, does she or he have to go to hell also?
Who watches the banks?
‘Westpac’s Money Laundering Breaches Gave ‘Free Pass to Pedophiles:’ Australia Official’
https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/international/2019/11/25/549512.htm
‘Westpac has ‘given a free pass to paedophiles”
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/westpac-has-given-a-free-pass-to-paedophiles-20191125-p53dwy
‘How Westpac’s LitePay service inadvertently helped Australian paedophiles abuse Filipino children’
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-21/how-westpac-inadvertently-facilitated-paedophilia/11725414
I’ve read all comments. Thank you CountryBoy for the telling comment =if indeed that proves to be the case=. Everyone seems to forget (put Sir Ron out of the picture for the moment) who is peddling these kids, if indeed the images are kids as we think them to be ie: under 10. Let’s take the example of Drugs. The end user is not responsible. The SUPPLIER is. Who? Seems there is very little being done to control the SUPPLY of images, and the product? Has no choice. Addictions are horrible things, and stem from trauma. This is the same with ALL addictions. I am sad, very sad, this has happened. But I would ask everyone to adopt the innocent until proven guilty, until the true facts of the images are revealed, and the accused has his time in Court. The tar and feather approach is so prominent in today’s World, how can we kill someone, lynch them. How do you know your father wasn’t a paedophile? Well? Your uncle, your brother .. Judge lest you and yours be judged. Wait and see.
“How do you know your father wasn’t a paedophile? Well? Your uncle, your brother .. Judge lest you and yours be judged. Wait and see.”
Back off, Moonbeam, you are becoming offensive.
Barbara White: ” How do you know your father wasn’t a paedophile? Well? Your uncle, your brother…”
Definitely not my father, nor any of my brothers, but certainly a member of the extended family, who’d married in. Though nobody used that word in those days. And nobody would have thought of going to the police; but said relative was notorious in the wider family. Younger family members became adept at keeping themselves safe, if you understand me.
Paedophilia is a particularly nasty crime; no extenuating circumstances or mitigating factors at all, in my view.
Well here we go again, comment posted yesterday evening 22/12/19 has disappeared in to the ether??? Unfortunately i am starting to have serious doubts about the impartiality of TDB. Having had a number of comments disappear, i started taking screenshots before posting but neglected to do so with last nights comment. The timing does not appear to be a problem, as comments posted after mine have been printed. As i have stated previously if TDB has a problem with any of my comments please do me the courtesy of a note pointing out why!
G.A.P.: “Well here we go again, comment posted yesterday evening 22/12/19 has disappeared in to the ether???”
I’ve had the same thing happen to me. Following a relative’s advice, I either save my comments to a Word file, or send them by Skype to said relative. Either way, I have a record of them.
I’ve reposted comments; which has sometimes resulted in the same comment appearing twice. On other occasions, reposting has made no difference: it still doesn’t appear.
I conclude that computer gremlins are to blame. And – further – I suspect that it’s gremlins with MY computer, which isn’t in the first flush of youth. In general, comments I send via phone are posted. My phone is also old; just not as old as my computer.
Unfortunately, I don’t have any more helpful advice; in any event, and absent any other evidence, I’d come down on the side of your comments not being censored.
Re: D’Esterre December 23, 2019 at 12:28 pm &
G.A.P.
I no longer waste my time commenting on Mr Maybury’s blog because a significant number of them don’t “pass” his “muster”.
He is also insufficiently knowledgable about at least e.g., vaccination, fluoridation – clearly hasn’t read the Fluoride Deception nor read Del Bigtree or Robert Kennedy Jr. re vaccinations. My own health was destroyed decades ago by mercury in vaccines. Children’s health is being destroyed in these times because of the adjuvants & the animal cells in vaccines. Animal cells should only ever be EATEN/INGESTED – never INJECTED.
Isabel H: “I no longer waste my time commenting on Mr Maybury’s blog because a significant number of them don’t “pass” his “muster”.”
Yet here you are: commenting. By the way, I assume that you mean “Bradbury”?
“He is also insufficiently knowledgable about at least e.g., vaccination, fluoridation – clearly hasn’t read the Fluoride Deception nor read Del Bigtree or Robert Kennedy Jr. re vaccinations. My own health was destroyed decades ago by mercury in vaccines. Children’s health is being destroyed in these times because of the adjuvants & the animal cells in vaccines.”
And yet: this has got through moderation.
I’ll be very direct about the views you express above: anti-vaccination and anti-fluoride opinions are based upon unscientific looniness. The scientific facts aren’t on your side.
I’m a very strong believer in free speech – up to and including perverse views such as those expressed here by you. And I’m very pleased that Martyn has allowed your comment through: if indeed it’s Martyn making the decisions, not just a spam filter.
FFS, Being an old trade unionist i despise brierly and his ilk, but much as i would like to jump on the bandwagon pushed by all of TDB,s commenters the man has not been anywhere near a trial so far. Put anyone in mind of the malicious complaint pushed by the joke media in this country which resulted in the destruction of the careers of two innocent men??? Another niggling thought at the back of my mind is why would a person presumably with some understanding of IT be wandering around a highly secure area like an airport with a computer full of child porn??? Just a thought, i have for some time now been working on a scheme to save the country millions possibly billions of dollars. As we all know that when the police charge somebody the person is obviously guilty, why don’t we just do away with judges courts and all those messy expensive trials. and let the police do the sentencing?
Originally posted at approx. 12.30pm 23/12/19.
FFS, Being an old trade unionist i despise brierly and his ilk, but much as i would like to jump on the bandwagon pushed by all of TDB,s commenters the man has not been anywhere near a trial so far. Put anyone in mind of the malicious complaint pushed by the joke media in this country which resulted in the destruction of the careers of two innocent men??? Another niggling thought at the back of my mind is why would a person presumably with some understanding of IT be wandering around a highly secure airport with a computer full of child porn??? Just a thought, i have for some time now been working on a scheme to save the country millions possibly billions of dollars. As we all know that when the police charge somebody the person is obviously guilty, why don’t we just do away with judges courts and all those messy expensive trials. and let the police do the sentencing?
Hi D’Esterre, As i have a reasonable understanding of what i am doing IT wise, and various computers i do not believe the problem is at my end. You pointed out the eventual multiple postings which has just occurred with me again. The original comment was posted on the 22/12 and has disappeared completely, the second was posted on the 23rd at 11.35 am and repeated at 6,07 pm both showed up this morning 24/12. I would not have a problem with this, being xmas etc. apart from the fact that TDB did not seem to have problems printing numerous comments to other blogs during the same time period? I could be completely wrong, but have a suspicion that this may have something to do with Martyn’s american spam filter
G.A.P.: “…apart from the fact that TDB did not seem to have problems printing numerous comments to other blogs during the same time period?”
Except that we don’t know how many other comments weren’t printed over that time. I’m guessing that many other commenters have had the same experience; perhaps they just give up and go away.
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