The only reason there has been so much cross Party support for the Zero Carbon Act is because it doesn’t do anything 


Oh for the love of Christ, if we could harness all the misplaced smug self congratulations over the Zero Carbon Act we could solve the energy needs of the entire planet overnight!

The only reason there has been so much cross Party support for the Zero Carbon Act is because it doesn’t fucking do anything!

Being Carbon neutral by 2050 is NOT a response to the climate crisis!

Comrades, I believe passionately that the climate crisis is an existential threat to us as a species every bit as dangerous as the war against Fascism, what this do nothing go nowhere bit of legislation promises is that after Germany invades Poland in 1939, we will be in a position to defeat the  Nazi’s by 1970!


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By 2030, over 50% of the oceans will be collapsing as bio-habitats.

By 2030, East Coast cities in the U.S. can expect to see two to three-times as many flooding incidents.

By 2030, 122million will be driven into extreme poverty as  direct result of climate change.

By 2030, 100million will die as a direct consequence of climate change.

By 2030, even if the Paris Agreement is actually implemented, we will see a planet warm to 3.4 degrees by the end of this century meaning there will effectively be no future civilisation capable of surviving on a planet that warm.

By 2030, the global annual cost of global warming will be $3trillion.

2030, the number of extremely hot days — classified as maximum temperatures of more than 35C — are tipped to climb in all capital cities.

But don’t fret folks, by 2050 NZ might be carbon neutral!

The only reason National and their farmer mates are on board is because this doesn’t do a bloody thing! If this sophistry is a ‘win’, your definition of ‘win’ is as meaningless as this Government’s definition of ‘transformative’.

If Climate Change is this Generations nuclear free moment, the Zero Carbon Act is David Lange farting in an elevator.


  1. You’re right in that the Zero Carbon Act does nothing – in essence it forms a committee and goes no further. Concerned National Party members have already been told by Nat HQ that it is of no consequence and therefore there is no need for alarm.

    But let’s be honest, most of this climate change rhetoric is just virtue signalling. Nobody any intellectual capability takes the Paris Climate Accord seriously because it effectively gives both India and China, the worlds two largest emitters) a free pass. They’re still building coal fired power stations!

    As for your predictions for 2030, I wouldn’t worry too much, because judging by the accuracy of their previous predictions, they’re not at all reliable.

    • That is the hot hands fallacy, brother. Just because it is assumed that capitalism is extremely resilient to crop failure does not make him immune.

    • It is good to see one voice of reason in this comment feed . Happy to be in fight against pollution but global warming is inevitable and occurs naturally but many of the over the top predictions since the 1970s have not occurred so I am not losing sleep about the end of the world

  2. When political parties actually acknowledge the urgency and severity of the climate emergency then they will act appropriately.
    OK, I’m singling out National but Labour’s little better – they will proclaim about Paris and a split gases approach and the need to provide food yadda yadda but I’ve yet to hear a National politician get anywhere near acknowledging that global warming is a severe threat to New Zealand let alone an existential threat to humanity. Mostly they seem petrified by the threat of climate change legislation not the effects of climate change itself.

  3. A victory for political theatrics and marketing. A loss for all of us.

    “Climate change is my generations nuclear-free moment”. Yeah right! Tell that to your child in 20 years time and especially try to explain the part of how you had the very rare privilege to be in a position to make a difference but did about as much as Scott Morrison and Trump combined.

  4. NZ probably will be carbon neutral in 2050 because the present set of unsustainable living arrangements will have collapsed long by 2050 and anyone still alive will be living as Maori did before Europeans arrived.

    In the short term the dire warning that politicians routinely ignore will increase in frequency, and extreme weather events will hammer infrastructure and food systems with increasing severity.

    ‘The world’s people face “untold suffering due to the climate crisis” unless there are major transformations to global society, according to a stark warning from more than 11,000 scientists.

    “We declare clearly and unequivocally that planet Earth is facing a climate emergency,” it states. “To secure a sustainable future, we must change how we live. [This] entails major transformations in the ways our global society functions and interacts with natural ecosystems.”

    There is no time to lose, the scientists say: “The climate crisis has arrived and is accelerating faster than most scientists expected. It is more severe than anticipated, threatening natural ecosystems and the fate of humanity.”

      • Lucky (sarcasm) our government and councils are speedily giving away our natural assets like water permits for decades to offshore business sometimes with a NZ facade to fool the steeple, like the stupid and gullible Jenny Shipley’s of the world… rubber stamped by the woke and right wingers of the world and enforced by the free trade agreements of the world…

        Overseas business needs those profits more than locals need that water or a clean environment! Now we can pay for the council to set up an environmental committee to worry about the pollution from those plastic bottles they just greenlighted!

  5. Yep, it means almost NOTHING, but that is what the wider population is happy with, a feel good action, leading to nothing.

    Every day I watch NZers waste and pollute as per usual, pretending they are ‘clean and green’. This country is a FAKE PRODUCT, if you follow the tourism advertising.

    We are NOT clean and green, we are per capita one of the most polluting people here.

    And punishing farmers will do nothing, nor will it do anything letting off the largely urban people continue driving their cars everywhere.

    This country is less prepared for climate change than most other developed countries, at least they have mass and the ability to educate and influence people in most European countries, they are facing an uphill battle here.

    Virtue signalling it is, this law, and where are the so called climate protesters and school strikers? It seems they conveniently chose the last day of the last and third term to ‘strike’, basically to have an early holiday, but they do nothing now and since then, all talk and BS.

    Get rid of your fossil fuel cars, ride a bike, walk, and do something real for the climate on the planet, do not BS us anymore. I recommend also to take out cars that pollute, but who dares disabling such, or even burn them as they did during the G20 protests in Hamburg in 2017.

    • Well stated Marc it’s all about
      The money In NZ the supposedly free market has turned into a oil market a car market and And as there influence is so great and so subliminal only a few realise it the fact that NZ has the highest per capita of car ownership should be that start point as to why the nation is reaching shit hole status.

  6. Hopefully it lays the foundation for more urgent action when the penny finally drops amongst the wider the public.

  7. Squash millions of people into small areas then stack them up to be exploited for their days alive as represented by dollars earned in placements called ‘cities’ because some of us want to drive a huge super yacht up the Thames is not a common sense approach to life on a small biosphere floating about in a vacuum in these enlightened times.
    Those people stacked up? They will be in deep shit very quickly and as the supermarkets run out of larks tongues, Miss Snuggle Kitty, the Youtube sensation cat, will look less cute and more delicious. And so might your plump neighbour and so might you to him/her too btw!
    Ever since I can remember my father starting to speak about his grave concerns for the future of those whom bring us our daily bread I’ve watched our farmers denigrated, vilified, demonised, and sold into terrible debt. Most recently? Those hardy few brave souls have ventured out into the culturally vacuous hinterlands to try growing cows to milk to export to them beastly Chinese and our lovely little corporate cowsploiter CEO’s on their scant few multiples of millions of dollars annually who then they fuck off with enormous ‘bonuses’ for their awesome performances in polluting the very water we reply upon to survive at the most basic of levels but wait? There’s more! Those brave few souls doing the dirty work are left to take the flak from bankster and corporate ( same thing really) greed from us hypocritical latte sippers and rank cheese connoisseurs.

    What we should be doing is using our parliament with all its wondrous resources and funds is to spread us out over the lands we have in abundance and up-skill us in the wondrous ways of organic food production aided and abetted by free electricity, technology advances and the rejuvenation of our sabotaged rail infrastructure.
    We should put a lock down on the four foreign banksters immediately and asset strip them under the proceeds of crimes act and redistribute those funds without prejudice to our most at-risk in our communities.
    Westpac net profit ? In excess of $960 million. BNZ? $1,0200,000 billion as reported by fawning, sycophantic RNZ yesterday. ( Crackle-voice reporter said “ Drum roll please…! “ When she was about to drop her knickers to the bnz. ( NAB Australia. ) More like gunfire please.
    The big four banksters are sucking out our money, crippling our food production infrastructure with debt and by way of evil, psychologically manipulative media mechanisms are convincing us to look the other way when our own people are living rough in hunger as our kids are born into poverty.
    But we know this? So, what are we going to do about it and we’d best be quick about it because we’re running out of time?
    And forget trying to suck Co2 out of the air. It’s too late for that. ( But lets not put anymore out there for Christ’s sake! )
    Three words. Hydro,hydro,hydro.
    Three more words. Electricity, electricity, electricity.

    And if you think you’re getting too much sleep?
    Watch the series ‘Chernobyl’ then the latest Terminator movie followed by this on Youtube.
    Boston Dynamics/ DARPA.
    And this one too.
    And never, ever turn your back on your food blender.

  8. “If we don’t reduce greenhouse gas emissions and ultimately stabilize CO2 — and we also have to draw down a lot of carbon out of the atmosphere. If we don’t achieve that, there’s no real prospect for a stable society or even a governable society…” Jason Box, Prof in glaciology at the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland

    ” We are now seeing a record 10ppm of CO2 rise every four years and have have failed to curb emissions growth let alone move towards any sort of carbon neutral world. Alternative energies remain a sliver of total global energy consumption. In fact, “the annual increase in global energy use is greater than the increase in renewable energy, meaning fossil fuel use continues to grow.”

    “The latest climate simulation models are projecting temperature increases of up to 7°C by the end of this century. Unless you have a magical faith in technology, then that level of temperature rise signifies the potential end of our species…” …

  9. Analyses without practical, organizational consequences lead to nothing.

    As repeatedly demonstrated, the present national parliamentary set-up does not have the capacity to guide the required changes.

    The system will only respond if there is
    a) external political pressure,
    b) replacement of individual parliamentarians / parties,
    c) institutional change within the administration.

    If these conditions are not met now, nothing relevant will change, even if a second term is won by the present government, and even if “the queen is protected”.

    Especially, institutional change within the administration is a long-term affair.

    A new left political platform has to be established driving change of the agenda. Preferably, this should be an eco-socialist party; in case it does not directly compete in the next election, it still would develop weight among the public, influencing the process and outcome.

    …. a few days ago, Switzerland has voted two different green parties into the national parliament: a neo-liberal version and the left Greens. Combined they garnered 21% of the vote:

    System Change. Now.

  10. You’re clearly misinformed Boomer.
    I heard James Renwick, N.Z s premier Climate Change expert interviewed on The Panel today, and he thinks it is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
    Even methane is not a problem since it breaks down so quickly.
    Never mind that it breaks down into CO2, that was never mentioned.
    You are as delusional on this topic as you are that “we” will respond to our “better angels”.
    Our future involves demons not angels.
    There will be no meaningful change, Jesus we can’t even get tiny houses approved without a fucking court case!
    I’m done with this bullshit. Wake the fuck up!

  11. “By 2030,100million will die as a direct consequence of climate change.” No one likes to die so these people will look for some where else with better prospects, New Zealand for example. Since we have accepted some responsibility for Pacific Islanders we should accept those who are likely to be inundated but beyond those, who else? To appear callous, very few I think. To save ourselves we need to reduce world population by perhaps 40%. Shifting populations from countries that suffer unbearable heat, to New Zealand will not help.
    We need to stop the immigration of 10,000s of people until we have a clear idea of what New Zealand can stand and the infrastructure needed to support them. I see no evidence that this government has an long term plan about this.

  12. The best solution is to turn southern Africa’s agrarian land into massive forests (carbon sinks). Use alamism to enact population control on an otherwise out of control breeding frenzie. THEN we can all get behind climate alarmism.

  13. Sadly the bill is virtue signalling: will anybody who matters (in the “real world” out there ) care? No.
    NZ may survive as a temperate zone bolt hole- it has rain, high land and people who can get along well enough to agree on zero carbon bills!
    The logical extension of the facts suggest NZ will need defenses : I suggest submarines doubling as fishing boats.
    All NZ people should be fully immunised even against smallpox and yellow fever as a bulwark against germ warfare.
    Forewarned IS forearmed…..

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