Green Party AGMs are dire affairs.
Very white – I mean blindingly so, they are stacked with ageing hippies, vicious identity politics fanatics and hip green entrepreneurs who see NZs clean green image as a marketing tool they can leverage to make their first million dollars ethically.
The one thing you can count on however is that they are all true believers in the climate crisis and they must MUST hold the Party to account for its pitiful results so far in Government.
Members over this weekends AGM in Dunedin need to start asking hard questions over the Party’s actions and the so called policy ‘wins’…
Leaders will use the AGM platform to remind members of big wins such as the Zero Carbon Bill, ETS reforms, the oil and gas ban, indexing benefits to wages, work in conservation and policies around preventing family and sexual violence.
1 – Â Why the hell are they still giving National their Parliamentary questions?
2 – How can Eugene Sage hold onto her job after allowing more water to be taken by China based on a dozen jobs?
3 – Carbon neutral by 2050 is an admission of defeat, not progress.
4 – The single use plastic bag ban was a joke, when is some thing meaningful coming?
5 – Letting agriculture off the hook for their pollution is not a win, it is another admission of defeat.
6 – When will there be an upper limit of cows set?
7 – The oil and gas ban is more virtue signalling in the future, what are the Greens doing to prepare NZ for the climate crisis happening NOW.
8 – Has Marama Davidson finished demanding white bros delete themselves online and has she finished championing the word ‘cunt’?
9 – Have they moved on from blaming all white people for the Christchurch terror attack?
Where the Greens can feel some level of pride is their work on domestic violence protections and time off to heal from domestic violence.
Everything else has been pretty pitiful.
As a Green Party voter, I fear their hard core middle class identity politics has made them toxic and alienating. Their inability to see outside of Twitter is a strategic blindspot and their 6% suggests they could easily slip beneath 5% as they always over poll and they have gone backwards in the last 3 elections.
The Greens need to stand strong on benefits increases, they need to demand something genuinely aspirational towards climate change (every roof in NZ with solar panels by 2030), and they need to hammer away on the economic gains for a regulated cannabis market.
By focusing on those 3 issues, they will manage to keep away from the alienating identity politics stuff and diminish the opportunity for backlash, they should steer clear of the hate speech issue because their online activists can’t be trusted to not turn it into ‘you support free speech so you are a sexist racist nazi’ narrative and all MPs need to be reminded to not wallow in the ‘people are mean to me online’ stuff as it starts looking like it’s all about them and not Green policy.
The Greens are in survival mode for this election, if all the amazing policy ‘wins’ were so amazing why haven’t they moved in the polls for 2 years and why are they still polling less than they actually gained on election night 2017???
Members need to start asking hard questions because they can’t blame the heteronormative white cis male patriarchy if they screw 2020 up and come under 5% – it will be their fault for being as alienating as the Auckland Pride Parade, no one else’s.
The Greens in power seem to hate/ignore the white middle class the most while not understanding, that is their support base!
The Greens are seeking an idealogical race war, that seems to be against who voted them in, while those they are wooing, have no to little interest in politics or vote for someone else who represents them better, because they generally notice that things go worse for them no matter what political party is in.
For example when you are poor and have no where to live you couldn’t care a fuck about the environment or having a fan in your kitchen and bathroom, you would be happy with a garage rather than a tent or be homeless on the street. So finding that more and more cheap housing has now been removed while having $500 p/w average rents for every house in NZ (when minimum wage is circa $600) because of all the upgrades required aint exactly giving anybody a better rental experience.
Greens lose two ways, fixated on changing a system that is only making things worse because their understanding comes from overseas paper studies and poor understanding of NZ poverty while not having anything to show for what people voted them in for, aka improving the environment.
In some instances the identity politics and move to their mythical ideas around race and desperation to be accepted into the mainstream business world is so entrenched that they go against their Green policy of reducing overseas foreign ownership, Maori sovereignty, buy NZ and environmental best practise and inexplicably allow more free water to Chinese business to be exported out of NZ and sold in plastic bottles!
Too many first world solutions to third world problems in NZ while ignoring the Green component to their parties base.
They are not bad people but the current Greens have gone down the wrong alley way and it’s not clear they even know or care about that.
People need to have the freedom to live their lives and raise their children as they see fit.
This should be obligatory watching to Greens, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BflQ39tgomE because under their new rental rules this family would not be allowed to live like this and be homeless instead. It would be illegal for anybody to allow them to live in a shed to help them out. The resource and building consents would never allow a cheap consent through but Pike river is fine because money talks and everything is now about process.
The family could not be self sufficient. It would have cost more to renovate the house to healthy standards than demolish it, but the family loved that house with all the memories. A house is more to people than a set of inflexible rules.
In modern times the family would be put into a one bedroom motel in the city without their animals and lifestyle while they wait for years to get a bigger state house, because some middle class way of living is created so that everyone has to be the same.
The overcrowding and mental issues of waiting for their WINZ cheque and filling out endless forms probably has the same negative effects as the cold, damp house!
Greens needs to have more into perspective on risks of changing a system to one that is nonexistent so far aka there aint the cheap houses out there to move into for people!
Maraes did not use to have electrically run everything and Maori managed pretty well and probably better off before they were moved into European style housing!
Greens and Labour need to back off on making everything illegal unless it is very prescribed into a narrow definition of what they feel is right for every person.
Likewise work safe is out of control on small business and government organisations like schools so that nobody can get any practical work done anymore for the amount of paper planning for every eventuality!
Nobody wants to hire anybody these days in a practical sense in particular if they have any sort of disability, because of the risks of hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines if anybody has an accident and the paper work is not in order.
It’s got so bad that now the kids can’t even walk to school.
Good call at least by Genter on that practise at least, by the Greens!
This is not even getting into the disaster that immigration and tourism is doing environmentally.
The greens can accept that cows shit, but not people.
They need to get off their ideological identity politics and race obsessions and get into practical of saving the environment that will help identify politics and race relations because they will have a planet of live on, not be destroyed in 20 years because somebody was more interested in a fan in a bathroom, gave away water to Chinese to stem their race guilt or managed to remove 2 dedicated Maori parties from NZ politics by going after their votes every 2 seconds.
“Remove 2 dedicated Maori parties from NZ politics by going after their votes every 2 seconds” – although this seems to be more Labour’s doing than the Greens, but the last few elections Greens also seem desperate to join in the 4 way race.
Under this government with more Maori MP’s than every before, Maori votes are more and more diluted as they become more and more of a minority in their own country and many are becoming much worse off in their own country as are the fastest growing group in poverty, Pakeha homeowners with children on wages. https://www.pundit.co.nz/content/invisible-children?rq=children%20in%20poverty
So it seems the globalist polities are not helping Maori and they are not helping most Pakeha families… who are they helping and giving power to and why are our politicians compelled to give away natural assets to foreign business?
If you look at the Natz, they prop up shitty Seymore, for their benefit, Labour destroy a natural coalition partner aka Mana and manage to create race wars that get up other ethnicities backs!
If Labour and Greens could have stood down Te Tai Tokerau then Mana would be in power and their combined left policies would be stronger.
Likewise how many electoral votes were split allowing a Natz MP in, Auckland central and Nelson for a start… they are too obsessed fighting amongst themselves for power and can’t play a strategic game.
Next time they need to only stand one electoral candidate one for Greens in Nelson and one for Labour in Auckland central.
Listen to the 2 leaders on the radio they have convinced themselves they are doing the lords work and have achieved so much.
The truth is they have strangled NZ roads by stopping any developement helped stop gas exploration which we need to replace coal stopped any research on GE or GM which could help solve global warming and feed the world’s hungry. Sage delayed theW est Coast clean up making the job so much harder and refuses to help stop another ecological disaster at the Hector mine .
They need to become the voice for the enviroment again not just social warriors
Trevor :”They need to become the voice for the environment again not just social warriors” – I agree, but I am not sure if I’d say “just” social warriors. They’re worse than that, because they have chosen to be socially divisive and racist – which NZ doesn’t need. Their post ChCh anti-white people rhetoric was disgraceful, and if this is what they believe, then to what extent they should be in positions of power or influence is a moot point.
As a Pakeha NZ’er I find their racism scary, and obviously won’t vote Green again. Davidson’s over- reaction to being called a c**t suggested someone who has had a fairly sheltered life, but expecting the public to participate with her social engineering around that, seems unrealistic and arrogant, but importantly, they were voted into power to represent all of us, not to use us to enable their own pet foibles while out in the real world the planet faces life-threatening problems.
I don’t think they are capable of change.
The woke simply know better than anyone else and are coming from a place of pure moral certainty.
Bit by bit they chip off support with their identity politics.
James Shaw snookered his party into the budget responisiblity rules – they’re now another neoliberal party and I hope they are forced out of parliament at this election.
And I voted for them last time.
Question 10: Should we as Green Party members nominate for Nobel peace prize, Vogue cover model and world authority on society, ecology and economy, the guy who has been hanging around Parliament for weeks with his climate emergency sign, ala Greta Thunberg
Lots of thoughtful critique on Green Policy. A toxic MSM doesn’t help either.
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