The fat grey tout jumped over the slippery blue fox.
Amongst the woke echo chambers of Twitter, Simon Bridges undergrad comments on Hauraki about gender fluid pinkos and University causing strange ideas has caused outrage.
Feeding that outrage however is probably a very bad idea.
Less than 9% of NZ uses Twitter, and using that as a measure of how the wider electorate feel about any issues is the sort of enclosed certainty that saw Trump and Brexit win.
To the majority of the people Simon Bridges just finished meeting on his tour of National voters, his comments will come across as exceptionally mild. This is a voter base who are still incandescent with rage that Winston cheated them, still furious that their property speculation bubble is slowing down and are up to their eyeballs in debt for dairy intensification. For these voters, social engineering is a way for communists to trick their children and progress is something that is always at their expense.
Bridges hasn’t been doing well with National voters because he is not as feral as the anger his base wants. These boorish comments will be music to their ears.
The danger in all of this is that the woke Twitter bubble goes into meltdown and over eggs it.
If the response to Bridges is a fully fledged claim of hate crime, then the swing voter in the middle who doesn’t see his language as anything more than a joke will side with Bridges. We are seeing this dynamic occur with Trump supporters over and over and over again.
Existential philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre once said ‘hell is other people’, I think this needs to be updated to ‘hell is other peoples social media feed’.
The Left are excellent at pointing out what’s wrong but we are hopeless at forgiving and offering redemption for those that do the wrong. If our goal is to exclude everyone who doesn’t agree with us, we can’t gain the mandate to implement the change we all desperately want.
Standing up and screaming, ‘I’m different and you’re wrong’, isn’t much of a recruitment tool.
While Bridges needs calling out, I don’t think woke twitter has the nuance to do that without accidentally creating more support for Simon.
Does that mean that every-one has to like Simon Bridges ?
What about Paula Bennett and Judith – the one with the fair hair ?
Amy Adams ?
Nick Smith ?
Simon is a practising Christian so his redemption is probably really up to God.
Is it ok to still hate all the electric power companies and Telecom ?
John Key said exactly the same sorts of things but knew how to couch his words to signal what his intent was and still get away with it. Much worse
Oh yes, E P.
Of course the 99.999% of our idiot country will fawn over the Blue brain fart bible bashing boor. That’s because 99.999% of the population of our NU/ZIL ARE themselves, etc.
That’s why dopy labour must lure the, in this instance, Gore-on Farmer away from National. What, about that, does no one else seem to understand? It’s all about the money for fucks sake. Once Labour gets the farmer money away from the Natzo’s the Natzo’s are done for.
( It’s why Labour don’t even try that, that deeply concerns me.)
And it’d be dead easy.
Trust me, I know what I’m talking about here.
The moment a person/s walk through the farm gate and proclaims ownership? That’s the fucking end of that person/s life. Once you start up a farm, you’re on a treadmill and ask any Hamster how easy that is to get off once it’s going?
No one knows that better than the banks and sundry hangers on, like the farm suppliers of chemicals, hardware, extended credit…
National have the farmer locked away in the hinterlands while shovelling debt on them like dirt on a coffin as their all bought and paid for MSM psychologically head fuck us into hating on them.
The way to destroy National would be to enable farmers to divert some of their off-shore earned funds into an interest free, non profit, peer to peer lending institution over seen by a government department.
Having farmers enjoy debt free farming would not only kill off the plague that is national but would benefit Nu/Zil immensely. Like it had done.
Everyone rants on about cow farmers… but what about the history of the wool board and the rise of wealth that built the towns and cities in NZ during, say the 1920’s and ’30’s? For all you non farmer types, an FYI? You can’t get wool off a cow.
Until Labour ‘gets’ the farmer, all Labour will ever be is playing second fiddle to the Natzo’s.
I don’t like the guy or agree with what what he stands for, but for God’s sake he’s only human. If you’re looking for God like perfection you’re on the wrong planet. ‘Calling out’, what a ridiculously childish undertaking this is; people who engage in this kind of behavior remind me of the self righteous bible bashers we used to heckle the hell out of in the Christchurch square many moons ago. ‘Those in glass houses should not throw stones’ is an expression they would have been familiar with.
The planet’s the only one we’ve got JBG, it’s Simon who is stuck in a time warp.
Denigrating the PM for being university educated isn’t exactly 21stC, it’s Victorian, but maybe with some appeal for contemporary rural red-neckers.
Calling her pinko is more mid-20C -that was 1951 snap- election -speak, and it worked in ChCh back then when the Bishop of ChCh instructed the nuns and priests who not to vote for, including a prominent Catholic layman being labelled Communist.
Speculating or even joking about any future gender ID’ing of a newborn baby girl is wholly inappropriate and plain awful from the leader of a major political party.There is nothing childish about not wanting children sullied for political gain or cheap laughs, nothing at all.
I hope you feel better now that you’ve got that off your chest. Listening too, let alone believing in party political bullshit would make any sane person sick. Why you give these traitorous idiots the time of day & let them get to you beats me. Simple; ignore all self serving politicians, don’t fall for their lies & don’t vote for any political party, as they’re all way past their use. Lighten up & draw on your strengths to make a difference in your glorious way.
Opposition shills shifting treaty land transfers to foreign interests concerns us all. Constitutional maters are above petty quibbling. A fiar price for labour will avoid future treaty breaches.
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You should read some of the twisted things this sam individual has tacked onto my comments, double standard at work here; do your homework, whale oil is the last place you’d find me.
This is my point, although I don’t have to justify myself too you; all we have is the all too human stuff we’re made of to do the best we can with. Some, such as those you mentioned, do outrageous & horrific things too actualise themselves & satisfy their will to power. Believe it or not you also have the potential within you to become a Mao Zedong or Buddha if you so chose it. Being honest with yourself about such things is probably not your strong point is it? You seem to have a very poor understanding of human nature, like most from your rung on the political spectrum (the notorious left leaning liberal blind spot). Nietzsche was really big on trying go beyond good & evil, which is a noble undertaking, but as I’ve discovered to my detriment, the beast is never far from the civilized surface & loves to smack you back into line; scratch yourself, bleed & feel it wriggle with delight. Anyway who the Fk are you to suggest that Bridges requires forgiveness, I always thought this was the prerogative of the priesthood. If you actually think that Bridges should get down on his knees & apologise to you you’re nothing but an arrogant, self righteous Luther like zealot. Heaven help us if you (closet authoritarian) ever got into a position of power, the guillotine would be worn out in quick smart time. Anyway in my book if Bridges is guilty of anything it’s simply being a bit of dick & making a fool of himself. Bye the way anyone will recant if enough pressure in brought too bear, their catholic guilt gets the better of them, the political, socio-economic wind changes, or there’s more butter on their bread. I’m no fan of the status quo, I’m a patriotic radical who desires nothing more that the overthrow of our liberal/neo-liberal establishment & the visionary renewal of our nation, so trifle with me at your peril. I don’t need adulation or support from those with fanatical fixed points of view & closed minds. More solidarity would be great, but in an increasingly individualistic (atomised) society, which sits by while the commons is being appropriated at at alarming rate (divide & conquer), this is a pipe dream. Being a ‘voice in the wilderness’ is my lot, if you don’t like what I say then c’est la vie, it’s no skin of my nose.
It’s polite to offer an opponent the opportunity to surrender before convincing any adversary of the futility of there actions.
Sam will you refrain from tacking comments onto mine as they’re incomprehensible e.g. make no sense – out of context. I think you guy’s call it trolling & it’s pretty stink.
As some one who appreciates Nietzsche, you may understand people who take a superficial understanding of his philosophy and musing and think that they can snow people in around them.
Ok sam, not here for senseless argumentation, so as always you get the last word, go for it, mazel tov und mach es gut genosse.
A cursory look at Neietzsche literature would highlight the fact he liked to criticise Perussian superiority. But he did hate nationalism and German nationalism in particular, which is why I think that the fact that a German relationship goals would be deeply offensive to him.
When it comes to persuasion, the Backfire Effect will screw up your best efforts.
https://youarenotsosmart.com/2011/06/10/the-backfire-effect/
I’m not so sure Bridges comments will work counter productively , I’m more inclined to think give Bridges enough rope and he will do the job himself.
He does not come across as confident , only desperate.
And yet, with more than a dash of lackadaisical attitude regards those less well off. Or the environment . Coupled with a very pronounced belligerency , rigidity and a dogmatic ideology, – that being of the neo liberal persuasion. Indeed in order to hold those very ideologies one , – if they so choose to be a leader of a party expressing those ideologies – must have those sorts of quality’s.
And it is here in plain sight for all to see:
john campbell interviews simon bridges FULL campbell live – MSN.com
https://www.msn.com/…/john-campbell-interviews-simon-bridges…campbell…/vp-BBJ…
Only those bloody minded tribalist’s who refuse to be converted will not be swayed by what they see,… as they were Key. Nothing will convince them otherwise. I am not so sure criticizing Bridges is a bad thing , because Bridges acts in a way that sends himself up all by himself, – let alone needing anyone else to do so.
His comments were rank. And to simply let him pass ‘Go’ and collect the money free of any comment would be equally as bad , – if not being seen as an outright tacit endorsing of his views.
So why do you keep doing it?
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