Sigh.
Labour are getting played by National over Child Poverty legislation….
National leader Bill English has continued to slam a “pathetic attempt at bipartisanship” from the Government on child poverty but acknowledged today a briefing was offered in 2017.
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said on Tuesday that she had written to English on the 13th of December outlining the bill and offering a briefing on her new child poverty measure, which the Government intends to write into law.
She was responding to English’s criticism on Monday that the Government was talking up bipartisanship around the issue but didn’t offer a briefing on the measure until Wednesday, when the legislation was due to be introduced.
…by playing up the bi-partisanship desires, Labour have opened the door for English to criticise Jacinda for effectively lying and not being genuine in her offer.
Here is the actual timeline…
…instead of championing a new Child Poverty legislation while flaying National for implementing failed right wing experiments that hurt those kids in poverty, we are arguing about whether Jacinda is being honest with Bill English!
This is not the debate the new Government should be having! Their desire to be inclusive only works when you have an Opposition that is genuinely constructive, at what point will the Labour leadership team comprehend that National are vicious power hungry born to rule pricks?
When does Labour learn you can’t work with National?
How many times does National need to spit directly into Jacinda’s face before someone realises that bi-partisianship simply makes the new Government look weak?
When National lied directly to the country’s face about the $11.7billion budget hole? Was that a good time to appreciate National aren’t constructive?
When National tricked them into believing they didn’t have the numbers to elect Trevor Mallard as Speaker simply by Simon Bridges having a puzzled look on his face? Was that a good time for Labour to appreciate National will deceive and manipulate to win?
When National forced Labour to give them more seats on select committees dooming any legislation to being roadblocked through the process, was that a good time to realise National are the danger?
Instead of championing the new Child Poverty law we are arguing about Jacinda’s offer of bipartisanship.
It’s time the new Government started getting a tad more ruthless and direct with its agenda and looking like winners rather than looking weak with all the bipartisanship virtue signalling.
Perfectly said Martyn.
This prick Billl English keeps sending out messages that he can walk on water, and i think he has a massive ego problem so he should be ignored.
Quote Martyn; “This is not the debate the new Government should be having! Their desire to be inclusive only works when you have an Opposition that is genuinely constructive, at what point will the Labour leadership team comprehend that National are vicious power hungry born to rule pricks?
When does Labour learn you can’t work with National?”
We need a Revolution..
in politics ‘Let’s Just Do This’ pragmatism, compromise and inclusiveness doesn’t work for the average struggling Man in the street.
Not when you are dealing with people like National and National voters who would appear to have no heart and no desire to even flirt with honesty.
Never has, never will.
Just ask the average Briton how they fared under the Pragmatism of the UK Labour Party when in Government..
Or Americans under the slickest pragmatist of all, Obama.
Even better, don’t ask them, just look at the statistics for wealth distribution, job security, employment security, housing…
Exactly, well said, what we have is mediocre business as usual tinkering by a third way, green lite party political dictatorship cobbled together by a geriatric, wana be patriot. There is a gaping whole in the NZ political spectrum that is crying out to filled by a genuinely patriotic, radical green, anti-globalisation establishment peoples movement.
Below are extracts from an email I sent to the Prime minister, Winston Peters & James Shaw a wee while ago. I am no mushroom hiding in the dark, I’m completely open about my dreams & revolutionary intentions.
Hello Prime Minister,
I wish you a happy new & visionary year.
My voice in the wilderness calling.
I am probably the only person in NZ who is openly advocating that we tear down of our business as usual, party political system of governance & replace it with a visionary, broad based national salvation government. Why, well I’m not just a revolutionary, I’m also a prophet. I’ve seen the true destiny of our nation, it runs red in my veins, it permeates my soul, it lives & breathes within me, it inspires me & urges me to act. Our nation will soon become a beacon of post-globalisation hope & a symbol of localised difference in increasingly bleak, homogenous & dangerous world & I will be instrumental in this process.
How will it come to this? As I see it NZ will, in the not too distant future, unilaterally develop, adopt & unfold a localised, innovative, sustainably self sufficient, post-globalisation world view & a new more cooperative, peace loving & exemplary way of life; thereby becoming the first nation in the world to take such trail blazing & transformational steps.
My NZ Patriotic Revolutionary Front & the Kingdom of Ayvangard vision are both expressions of this dream.
My anti-establishment political mission is to play an instrumental role in bringing about the downfall of the NZ government, & the dismantling of our out ineffectual & compromised party political system; replace it with a broad based, transformational national unity government, which will pave the way for the establishment of a visionary, post-globalisation New Zealand confederacy.
My secessionist mission is to develop & unfold an innovative, nominally independent, model post-globalisation eco-city state called the ‘Kingdom of Ayvangard’.
But of course at this point in time, being a prophetic voice in the wilderness without many supporters, I am both the PRF & Ayvanagrd.
Soon, when the apocalyptic chaos to come begins to spread its deadly tentacles into the four corners of our world, this will begin too change & my time will come.
I am a pariah who’s views & comments are not only censored by the MSM, but also by blog sites such as this who supposedly champion free speech, so I doubt if this comment will see the light of day?
Ayvan the terrible.
We should have the same values and attitude the your parents or your grandparents had.
Ask yourselves were you born and bread kiwi? Your parents too? Your grandparents? Well your grandfather probably worked harder tan your father because these people typically came to New Zealand as a migrant and as you can see new migrants push very hard to succeed and it is that spirit that got us here. Had we not had people with that rugged, robust attitude we wouldn’t be here.
I’m not sure if I went back to 1949 and start all over again with today’s generation breed and brought up in comfort. There is no discomfort from the state house & suburbs to the covered bus stop. Now that’s alright provided you keep at the back of your mind that this place was provided because of our effort. When you cease making that effort you cease to be first world.
Let me explain what I mean. Your parents and your grandparents generation lived a hard life. Very few people had homes of there own. Around the Auckland City YMCA just down abit from K’rd we used to have single men’s working quarters all around because they do shift work, next to Mt Eden Prison used to be a saw mill and other factories were you could earn a subsistence living and the mothers could find a nice state house to get out of the workers cubicles just to save money.
A cousin came to stay with me once and I was getting ready to go to school and he wouldn’t get out of bed and I asked him what you up to bay. A brief exchange and he told me he had no shoes, coming from the regions this story is typical of real poverty. And from that to go to a 1 room or 2 room or 5 bedroom house you get progress. Until now we have stripped out a bunch of 2/3/4 bedroom state homes for 1/2 bedroom units. That means we have given in to false understandings.
Children are not impoverished…their parents are.
Ardern is not naive..after all wasn’t she one of Blair’s advisers, he of WMD let’s bomb the shit out of Iraq fame as a cover for taking the spoils?
Children are not impoverished…their parents are.
The new govt is simply incompetent and shambolic, and it shows. National play them every time, and it’s only that fact that our MSM is leftie biased that more of the Coalition govt’s ineptness does not see the light of day.
‘Born to rule pricks.’ whatever. Jacinda and co are pretty darn arrogant for a selected govt, rather than an elected one. Even in the House today, Labour Ministers made simple mistakes at Question Time. There’s a reason National won more votes.
Your a dreamer Miles …… our media is right wing and pro war.
Our media kept quiet when Key was turning us into a tax haven … covering Keys and Nationals crimes …
Our media also kept quiet when Key was bailed out and took money from American tax payers when his old company merrill lynch was going bankrupt … his about to be worthless merrill shares were swapped for Bank of America ones ….. this non reporting and effective cover-up by our media preserved his myth of being a sharp investor …. Instead of a greed blinded one
And our media was a big part of Nationals ‘dirty politics’ ….. They still are ….. as their continual printing of ‘ The Tax Payers Union’ demonstrates.
It isn’t called the ‘corporate media’ for nothing ….
Corporate ….
@ Helena.
Dead right.
English? Knock the fucker down. Give him a kicking? Hang bennett with her own guts.
Ever tried to have a rational conversation with a bully?
There you go then.
Reportage this morning that there are rumblings around English’s leadership. No smoke without fire, as the saying goes.
He’s been in Parliament too long, as have Gerry Brownlee and Nick Smith. It’s past time the three of them went. But I’ll settle for English in the first instance.
Well, that is one take on it. But many ordinary kiwis see it as a genuine offer that National have turned down, which makes them look petty and vindictive…. which of course, they are. I think that episodes such as this, when the nats reveal themselves for the self-interested bunch of entitled elitists that they are, have the effect of turning more people off them each time it happens.
Well, that is one take on it. But many ordinary kiwis see it as a genuine offer that National have turned down, which makes them look petty and vindictive…. which of course, they are. I think that episodes such as this, when the nats reveal themselves for the self-interested bunch of entitled elitists that they are, have the effect of turning more people off them each time it happens.
Martyn,
I trust you realise the proposed legislation isn’t intended to actually DO something about poverty.
Instead it is just an exercise in statistics: finding an acceptable method of measuring poverty. That’s all.
My guess is that this is a cynical move by Jacinda to pretend to be doing something for the next three years, if she lasts that long.
P.S. Where is the Daily Blog’s article on the anti-democratic Waka jumping legislation?
When is a poverty reduction target not a poverty reduction target? When it solves problems other than the people being targeted because there is something people can not do in the markets.
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