
Trump was a far better propagandist than the mainstream media understood.
For those working class people who have seen their factories closed and jobs exported away by free trade deals, who are limited to the Army or stripping to get ahead, they know the system is rigged against them.
Trump’s constant use of it was a rallying cry for every voter who feels the system is rigged against them. Hillary getting away with breaches of security and the wikileaks that showed how rigged the Democratic selection process was, only strengthened in real time this sense of being cheated.
The horrifying truth however is far more cruel and sadistic than any Trump conspiracy fuelled by the Alt-Right.
Greg Palats is an old school gumshoe reporter whose work has been some of the best investigative work on the money that powers Washington. He is the Author of the best selling Best Democracy Money Can Buy and his work is considered the benchmark when it comes to understanding the real interests within American politics.
His work this election has been damning in terms of highlighting just how rigged the American Election really was.
Republicans purged electoral rolls in all the battleground States Trump needed to win. The numbers are damning.
Republicans have been crosschecking voter names and purging them from the polls under the guise of voter fraud and they had a damaging impact on the final result..
- Trump victory margin in Michigan: 13,107 – Michigan Crosscheck purge list: 449,922.
- Trump victory margin in Arizona: 85,257 –Â Arizona Crosscheck purge list: 270,824
- Trump victory margin in NorthCarolina: 177,008 –Â North Carolina Crosscheck purge list: 589,393
- Trump victory margin in  Wisconsin: 27,000 – Wisconsin Crosscheck purge list: 300,000

Add to this outright rigging of the system is the fact Hillary won the popular vote while Republicans cleansed voter rolls in the electoral college states that help win Trump the election.
Progressives have every reason to be furious that a sexist cretin like Trump was elected. What they need to do now is reach out to the working whites who were manipulated into voting for him with policies that will actually curb the neoliberalism that is making working people turn to Trump.



Most of the “whites” that voted for Trump in the US are likely to resemble our “Waitakere Man” species of a voter.
So if they choose to rely on information that they want to believe in, even if much may be “alt right” kind of info, and as long as they choose to be bigoted in various ways, not opening up for progressive thinking, there is little chance for change.
The problem in the US was that Clinton was seen as too establishment friendly, too much of a professional career politician, and Washington and New York beltway candidate. That kept too many at home who had reason enough to at least stop Trump, and rather vote for a lesser evil.
Bernie may not have made it either, but the Democrats better sort their own mess out, or ideally a new progressive movement starts off there now, and then the future may offer better results.
Too many that may have voted Obama before stayed home, and Trump managed to motivate enough to just have enough votes to win the electoral college vote, he failed to win the popular vote.
And the system is rigged anyway, as it is a money and influence competition in the US, more than here or in many other places. Look at the big money behind the candidates. Trump has his own wealth, he did not need Wall Street and Co.
But what a “saviour” is such a rich, self centred, narcissist prick? He will cater for the ones he likes, and feels close to, nobody else. The poor will be shafted anyway.
1.You can shut up about Hilary winning the popular vote now Martin. Because she didn’t. After the final count was taken.
2.the rolls were purged because they needed purging. Dead people etc.
3. Read this on Zerohedge;
“Personally, I find this hilarious. She schemes and connives to push forward the most “unelectable” republican, and that republican wins mostly because she vastly understimates the dislike of americans for her.”
Could there be a more fitting slap in the face to someone of such enormous hubris and arrogance?”
For me this neatly sums up the situation. Oh alright here’s the article.http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-12/martin-armstrong-exposes-real-clinton-conspiracy-which-backfired-dramatically
4. Heard of Wiki leaks by chance? Emails?
Winifred Kindle, perhaps you’d like some facts with that bile?
I don’t particularly like Clinton. except in comparison to Trump. And after how the Democrats treated Sanders, it is ironic that she was herself the victim of electoral rigging. However, she is still ahead in the national vote; 60,981,118 (47.8%) to 60,350,241 (47.3%) votes. Though this is unable to be the final result yet, as not all votes have been counted.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/elections/?gclid=CL66i9PsptACFYaYvAodAgMIMw
So you still maintain the electoral rigging in favour of Trump is a fact?
Clinton in comparison to Trump. You really need to get off your high horse again and do some research about what Clinton has done. Try wikileaks and emails as a beginning point. Then look up Bengazi and Libya. google; “We came, we saw, he died”. And research how that piece of ‘amusement’ came about. Then go to Whitewater. And how many people who have crossed her have died in ‘unusual’ circumstances. Don’t forget to look up ‘Clinton Foundation.’ Find out how much the deal to sell arms to Saudi Arabia was worth and then find out who supplies ISIS with arms. Find out what her public and private faces look like by reading the speeches she was paid to give to the big banks.
Re the popular vote. What has that got to do with anything anyhow? Trump won the election according to the American electoral system. But here are some sources for questioning that rhetoric; http://archive.is/jrchI#selection-603.0-619.395 and Infowars connected to ‘cleaning the rolls’ meme; All with as much authority to as far as I am concerned as the Washington Post. http://archive.is/jrchI#selection-603.0-619.395.
Trump isn’t my cup of tea either. But to hear and read about people bleating on because the evil Clinton lost is puzzling. I would have voted for Jill Stein, but obviously then been blamed for Clinton losing the election. But hey Stein, Comey, Putin, the Deplorables, poor uneducated white racists or that the Republicans (who were more likely to support Clinton) rigged the election. Blame who you like. The reason she lost is because people don’t like her.
Wow. You are remarkably thin skinned if you call that bile.
+100 Toasty …not bile at all from Winifred Kindle!
….”bile” all in the heads of the Clinton supporters on losing…but thank God they did!
( and thank God the sane sensible women of the USA , the 53% did not listen to the loud mouthed ‘feminists ‘ to vote Clinton)
Hillary is/was a mad woman and warmonger crazy
https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/366646-episode-max-keiser-992/
Chooky
The Kaiser Report is always good value – though I’m a bit behind on it, so will catch that episode in sequence.
I called WK’s comment; “bile”, because I thought that was less confrontational than; “bullshit”. Perhaps; “crap produced from an overproduction of bile”, would have been a better description…
But that’s not the important bit to me. What is important is that; WK made the claim that Trump won the final count of the popular vote. This is untrue as the count is even now unfinalised.
Truth might not be important to WK; “Re the popular vote. What has that got to do with anything anyhow?” (after she introduced the topic), & “Infowars… as much authority to as far as I am concerned as the Washington Post”. But I thought it did once mean something to you.
“bullshit” is a better word…and I dont even think what was said was “bullshit”…what WK said is more like the “truth” imo
bile (bīl)
n.
1. A bitter, alkaline, brownish-yellow or greenish-yellow fluid that is secreted by the liver, stored in the gallbladder, and discharged into the duodenum and aids in the emulsification, digestion, and absorption of fats. Also called gall1.
2. Bitterness of temper; ill humor; irascibility.
3. Either of two bodily humors, black bile or yellow bile, in ancient and medieval physiology.
(…and btw arent you splitting hairs?…Trump won where it counted…even although the popular vote was/is too close to call …so dont suggest that “truth ” means nothing to me…because I am beginning to have doubts about you )
‘Trump: I could have won popular vote if I needed to’
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37992573
Clinton knew the rules and she and her supporters should abide by them
Compare the statement; “You can shut up about Hilary winning the popular vote now Martin. Because she didn’t. After the final count was taken”, and the definition; “Bitterness of temper; ill humor; irascibility”. Looks like a match to me.
I was stating that truth apparently means nothing to WK. It is good that you still believe in a reality against which statements can be confirmed. Many get down on RT as Russian Propaganda, and they are definitely constrained in what they can report, but I don’t see them as much worse than the BBC. It is foolish to get your information from one source so it’s good to have different perspectives. Though personally I prefer text to video (easier to isolate claims for checking).
This piece by Russel Brown is good on the Bullshit that WK was spreading. It also explains why she referenced; the Washington Post, in her reply when my source was; the Washington Times (I thought it was just a typo so didn’t get on her case for it then).
http://publicaddress.net/hardnews/the-fake-news-problem/
You can shut up about Hilary winning the popular vote now Martin. Because she didn’t. After the final count was taken.
Would you care to cite that please.
Politico has it 60,467,601 to 60,072,551
Google : 60,981,118 to 60,350,241
PBS: 60,981,118 to 60,350,241
You live in a FAKE news bubble, my friend:
http://publicaddress.net/hardnews/the-fake-news-problem/
And, of course, Donald Trump has a history of calling the Electoral College over the popular vote as bullshit. What a guy.
https://www.facebook.com/14105972607/photos/a.275528952607.143735.14105972607/10154788020272608/?type=3
Winifred, you refer to Wikileaks and then link to something called “zerohedge”??
+100 Winifred…well said!
Work it out.
Sorry that’s to Priss.
Sad to see people believing the claim that the removal of voters was due to them being registered is two states, and the doubling of names.
The process of removing ‘duplicates’ is no different from what the KKK was doing decades ago (and no, I’m not saying the GOP or their voters are comparable to the KKK). It is a strategy that results in minorities being struck off the voting register.
This strategy of removing voters is laughable – as explained on this podcast: https://soundcloud.com/this-is-hell/924gregpalast
For the record, I don’t think this affected the outcome. The neoliberals in the Democrat Party need to own this loss…and then they need to disappear. Trump is a buffoon who won’t solve anything – his results will be on par with W Bush because Trump is a nationalistic capitalist. He’s the solution to nothing. It will be funny watching this right-wing populist fail. Lol.
If the democratic left of America was truely concerned about all that they would have supported Sanders
“The neoliberals in the democratic party need to own their own loss” Exactly.
There is no reason why vote-rigging can’t work in both directions.
More importantly voters in the US are clearly interested in something other than the standard neoliberal candidates. If the Dems had run Bernie, the vote rigging would have been irrelevant.
I wonder if the Labour party here has learned anything from this and Corbyn’s experience in the UK?
For me. The Maori party which I use to support but am now Mana Movement. They don’t listen unless you give them money. What kind of bat shit crazy arrangement is that. They say they do work and all these great things but when I check NZSTATS on a per hour worked bases our people are going backwards.
So I’m being lied to by my leaders, egnored, they think thier the greatest and I’m trying to reason this with the Kingi calls to unit but it’s just not working.
All I can say is we put some Mana back into parliament
This has been going on for more than two years and tends to happen in the conservative red states. https://today.law.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/FullReportVoterIDJune20141.pdf
And DJ Trump is absolutely no sweetie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCfaYlRyTGA
As well as ‘hiring the family’ to fill slots in the transition management process. (Nepotism?)http://yournewswire.com/trump-family-join-transition-team/
Even our very own ‘Akshully’ hasn’t quite had the nerve to hit our funny bones with a joke of that nature.
Does it really matter who got in, they are both nasty right wingers she is a war mongering liar who consorts with one of the war criminals of last century, Kissinger.
Clinton was supported by 9 of the top 10 arms manufacturers. What does that say.
This is a great interview which is worth watching on Clinton who did the biggest arms deal ever done in the world. This was done with Saudi Arabia. You know that nice democracy in the middle east.
https://www.rt.com/viral/365783-assange-pilger-wikileaks-election/
I also read somewhere that Obama locked up more people in his tenure than any previous president.
The system is crooked, there is obscene amounts of money involved and they need MMP but that would never happen in the ‘greatest democracy on earth’!
You will be aware that RT is financed by the Russian government, who I dare say, have their own vested interests. So instead of becoming a FAN for them, perhaps sit back and consider, that they have their own bias. We live in times, where ALL media is more or less biased to some degrees, and the only way to find the truth is by reading between the lines, and by sourcing as many diverse media and other sources, to get information on matters.
Those siding with either CNN, RT or Al Jazeera, BBC and so forth, you are ALL in for being informed on some kind of bias, it may not always appear to be so, but much bias is very subtle.
Hillary was a bad choice and has enough issues herself, but some go vastly over the top with allegations against her.
from what I can see RT is largely made up of very independent high quality Americans…experienced journalists, professors…etc
…probably if not actually exiled from the USA, at least they have the freedom to explore issues in depth and as they wish
https://www.rt.com/shows/
Thanks Martin for your astute observations and Frank for his contributions. I feel reassured that at least there is someone out there that sees the reality of this situation. Trump kept kept repeating that the Election was rigged and he wasn’t going down lightly. That was the signal. He new what was going on and that it was being set up for him to win. He may be many things and I would like to say that stupid is not one of them. But Stupid is one of them. This guy is a con man. He has just conned his way into the biggest job in the history of the world. The bigger they are the harder they fall. And fall he will. Hopefully before any damage is done.
@ Jerkop…load of bullshit….Trump’s rallies were enormous , numbering in the six figure thousands …Clinton’s supporters on the ground amongst the mass of Americans were tiny…
http://truthfeed.com/fact-check-trump-vs-clinton-battle-of-the-rallies-heres-the-shocking-attendance-numbers/19536/
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/no-joke-hillary-rarely-has-more-than-1000-at-her-events/
…the right wing corporates and oligarchy who overwhelmingly supported Clinton are running scared and using their media to shit on Trump yet again
It is not hard to see where the Poll rigging came from :
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-09/about-those-polls-rigged-or-just-clueless
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-23/new-podesta-email-exposes-dem-playbook-rigging-polls-through-oversamples
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-24/concern-grows-over-soros-linked-voting-machines
Yep, you are more onto it than some on this blog.
I honestly have had enough of all the alt-right conspiracy theorist stuff getting posted on the Daily Blog. It seems to have just grown and grown to a point that it now completely dominates just about every comment thread. While I’m sure losing one progressive reader won’t make anyone cry, as I remove the Daily Blog from my bookmarks, please consider the effect that letting this rubbish proliferate actually has on your audience. Best of luck, Martyn, have often enjoyed and supported what you’ve had to say, and hope you keep fighting the good fight. And Frank. What a legend.
I have myself been worried about this, maybe the idea is to offer a free speech forum, but at times it goes over the top, and these commentators seem to get too much air, and hence dominate some posts. Perhaps your honest comment here will be noted by the ones running the show, so do not give TDB up yet, we need more honest, sensible and committed readers AND commenters.
Most damaging:
http://www.vox.com/world/2016/11/1/13487322/donald-trump-russia-agent-hack
Trump and his advisors exposed.
more bullshit from the Clinton mainstream media that there was a Russian conspiracy and the Russians were out to get her…discredited long ago:
…NO Trump is NOT a Russian agent …NO the Russians were NOT hacking Clinton or the Democrat Party and feeding WikiLeaks …WikiLeaks was fed from insiders in the USA government secret service who were concerned about Clinton corruption
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/31/trump-organization-server-russia-bank-slate-report
http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/1/13486596/trump-russia-alfabank-server-hotline-connection-debunk
http://www.inquisitr.com/3668257/steve-pieczenik-hilary-clinton-coup-clinton-takeover-former-deputy-assistant-secretary-of-state-julian-assange/
‘American media licking its wounds in wake of Clinton loss, anti-Trump protests ‘ by Robert Bridge
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/367022-us-media-clinton-trump-protests/
‘Trump won because Clinton & her supporters refused to live in the real world’ by Danielle Ryan
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/366763-trump-clinton-supporters-election-won/
Never forget the military complex, it is now beyond control:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3utZuiKRcU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hh1SlNLX-Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_I6mripDlA
America is fucked, JFS is doing ok, but the Russians get over hand. Obama is impotent, trump will try, but locals will beat them all.
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