Phil Twyford brings a knife to a gun fight with Paul Henry over By-election

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Ouch.

Phil Twyford misread Paul Henry’s attack line on this morning’s Paul Henry Show.

Maybe Phil was expecting a Paul Henry who was slightly humbled by Lizzie Marvel’s principled stance to boycott the show in the wake of his gross description of women’s breasts to a journalist.

Phil was wrong.

Henry paints this as some sordid by-election bribe and hounds Twyford throughout the interview. Phil looked knocked off balance and struggled to counter Paul’s ferocity.

It’s a reminder that every interview is in election mode now, and the push back arguments need to be forged now.

Phil should have looked straight down the barrel of the camera and “Yes Paul, Labour are determined to build for Auckland and we will ensure Auckland’s infrastructure growth help’s build the rest of the country and we will commit to build Auckland now”.

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Instead of being apologetic, be triumphant. People want to hear what Politicians are going to do for them, not a list of things the Government can’t do.

Labour need to win Auckland. They need a two tick campaign. It’s time Labour woke up to the MMP reality that Auckland is the key to Labour and that the modern Labour Party needs to be an urban based Political force.

21 COMMENTS

  1. Yes, it’s pretty obvious what the Nat Attacks will be, but somehow Labour never seem as prepared as they should be. What do Labour stand for and why can’t they try to articulate a bigger message?

    Are Labour making the mistakes of small changes and bribes (such as light rail for Mt Roskill which just happens to be under by election) but forgets what the rest of Auckland and the rest of the country thinks about their transport woes? There’s also the 1 billion sports stadium that Goff is talking about. Hopefully Labour does not look at of touch when Auckland council are laying off library staff and forcing the public to mow their own berms. Now they are talking congestion taxes, just in time for the election.

    Hopefully Labour can now work out that the unitary plan does not deliver affordable houses or actually any more houses, in fact they are demolishing them to make bigger ones for richer people under the unitary plan. I’m really looking forward to seeing the ‘affordable’ houses on Takapuna beach where the art deco house was demolished without needing a resource consent. I also really enjoyed the Waiheke fire burning of the waterfront house. Sarc. You start to think that the government is out of touch when people burn perfectly good houses and demolish them while there is a homeless problem and forcing the public to go along with less regulation, but then if Labour seem to be spouting the same propaganda, you think WTF, they are all the same.

    Labour need to have a proper vision that includes everyone including options for Kiwis who have paid taxes all their lives not just immigration lobbyists that can pop out $250k for Goff Mayoral campaign or those trying to piggy back onto power without running for office like the Reynolds of the world. As has been shown by Brexit which was a surprise to all, voters may not be visible to politicians, but they can also show their dissatisfaction and surprise everyone. Last election they did that for Labour. The public were not sold on the vision and in particular who was targeted to pay for it. (middle classes). The complicated policy full of loopholes and targeted taxes was a disaster.

    Hopefully the new Labour vision does not include more taxes for Kiwis… did not go down well last election.

    They should be using Cunliffe a lot more, one of their best, but why they put their less articulate people in interviews all the time with unpopular messages. I absolutely do not blame Cunliffe for last election, he was not supported by his party and rifts were evident. You can not make successful policy and get the mood of the public if you spend most of your time arguing about Labour leadership or defending it.

    • @ SAVE NZ … you state the following …

      “They should be using Cunliffe a lot more, one of their best, but why they put their less articulate people in interviews all the time with unpopular messages. I absolutely do not blame Cunliffe for last election, he was not supported by his party and rifts were evident. You can not make successful policy and get the mood of the public if you spend most of your time arguing about Labour leadership or defending it.”

      True.

      Unfortunately David Cunliffe is retiring from politics next year at the election. A loss not only to Labour, but also to ordinary Kiwi working folk and disadvantaged NZers. He was the best Labour had, strong and staunch to core Labour values.

      Cunliffe would have made a great PM, but was a victim of dirty politics at the last election, with the assistance of msm discrediting and ridiculing him at every turn, no doubt at the direction of government minister of spin, black ops and just about everything else, Steven Joyce!

      Labour at the moment seems to be on the path to self destruction. It’s under-performing in just about every respect! If it wins Mt Roskill, it will be lucky and if it wins the next general election, it will be a bloody miracle indeed!

      • Cunliffe has given up “socialism”, it seems, he is headed for management consultancy, I guess for business and corporations, as they are the only ones left that have money to pay for things and to pay mercenary people, in a world that resembles one of mercenaries, slaves and servants, employed by the elite.

        I am very disappointed of David Cunliffe, he is showing either that he has given up on Labour, or he is perhaps showing his true colours now. Neither is good.

  2. ‘People want to hear what Politicians are going to do for them,’
    But we already know, Martyn: politicians are going to do exactly what they have done for decades, which is lower the quality of people’s lives and orchestrate destruction of the environment. It makes no difference which party is in power; all key policies are the same. And all key policies are founded on monumental lies.

    There is NO FIX for a system based on the mathematical impossibility of infinite growth on a finite planet that the liars and clowns in parliament (and elsewhere) continue to promote. And now that we are hitting the limits-to-growth boundaries that western societies were repeatedly warned would eventually bring the system to a halt, and witnessing collapse of the environment, politicians are increasingly seen as self-serving, cowardly liars.

    People’s main priority at this late stage in the game should be protecting themselves from politicians as much as possible and isolating themselves from the system as much as possible, since the system – referred to by some as ‘The Empire of Lies’, referred to by others as ‘The Empire of Chaos’- promotes everything that is unjust and unsustainable, and is already starting to fall over. We’ve probably got about 3 years left before global economic collapse becomes unstoppable. And not much longer before the Abrupt Climate Change [that politicians continue to promote] wrecks everything.

    The catastrophe is unfolding before us right now:

    Daily CO2
    October 29, 2016:  403.15 ppm
    October 29, 2015:  398.74 ppm
    Up 4.41 ppm (versus recent decade average of 2.11 ppm)

    Couple the disastrous CO2 figures with the series of record-high monthly global temperatures and the record low Arctic ice cover and it’s obvious ‘we’* are in very serious trouble. And politicians are fully committed to making it all a lot worse faster.

    *It will be our children and grandchildren who will pay for all this madness based on lies, of course

  3. “Phil should have looked straight down the barrel of the camera and said …”

    Steve Tew a couple of weeks back should have looked straight down the barrel of the camera and said to Henry, “Fuck off, get back in touch with me when you actually want a sensible discussion about the issue not a grandstanding opportunity for yourself.”

    There is a fear of a backlash from challenging such as Henry when he is in ferocity mode. The ferocity is all about him and his image. Bullies bully by trying to turn others into losers because they themselves are losers. Henry knows he can do what he likes because he has a fan club and contention is currency.

  4. ” Labour need to win Auckland. They need a two tick campaign. It’s time Labour woke up to the MMP reality that Auckland is the key to Labour and that the modern Labour Party needs to be an urban based Political force.”

    Balls.

    Have you learned nothing?

    Use your fertile imagination and imagine this?

    Labour should be an urban based Political force should it?
    Does that explain why National are in the money and have the NZ farmer well and truly psyched into kissing Blue arse thus then be further exploited and on-sold , like slaves, to foreign banks then does it?

    And imagine this for a moment.

    All agrarian enterprise in NZ stops supplying their products. All goods across the field ( pardon the pun ) to stay in the sheds. A total shut down of all farming practises. Imagine that?

    How important then do you think, an Auckland based, urban Labour party might be if it was deeply unlucky enough to find itself in power, something Labour must have nightmares about. The very last fucking thing Labour wants to be is in power. They’d be fucked.
    Those fuckers in Labour? They’re all on $-six figures plus entitlements and half the bastards dragged us into this dreadful situation from the roger ‘The Satanic’ douglas days and all they have to do is faux tut-tut and hand-wring and spend up large.
    Auckland has one of those traitors as Mayor for fucks sake !
    The very true grit reality of NZ’s ‘ situation’ is so far beyond your comprehension @ Martyn Bradbury that it literally leaves me breathless.

    • Yep, Martyn is unashamedly pro-Auckland (or Dorkland as everyone else in NZ calls it). If Auckland simply vanished, no-one else would give a flying shit. Martyn would do well to remember that 70% of people DON’T live in Auckland – which is, like, you know, FAR more than the 30% that do.

  5. I hope you forget to breathe then, breatheless countryboy. There are plenty of Kiwis who want to be on the bank-owned farms that you lay claim to, Get off and leave space for rational farmers to take over and change from your pitiful, wastefu,l polluting, chemical practices. We’re tired of the constant landed whimperers who think National is going to help them out of their bad management.

    • You clearly haven’t read many of CB’s comments, Kappanz. He is not one of the landed gentry. Keeps banging on about The Great Institutionalised Lie. I don’t agree with everything he says, or even how he says it. But you should check it out. The Lie, that is.

  6. “Phil should have looked straight down the barrel of the camera and said …”

    Steve Tew a couple of weeks back should have looked straight down the barrel of the camera and said to Henry, “Fuck off, get back in touch with me when you actually want a sensible discussion about the issue not a grandstanding opportunity for yourself.”

    There is a fear of a backlash from challenging such as Henry when he is in ferocity mode. The ferocity is all about him and his image. Bullies bully by trying to turn others into losers because they themselves are losers .

  7. Yes, Paul Henry was sitting there not just by his own, he had the spirits of John Key, Bill English and their pollster Farrar sit right next to him, or even converse with him in his mind. Election bribe, election bribe, election bribe, that is now going to be the catch call by the Nats and their second rate candidate for Roskill.

    I briefly watched the Paul Henry Breakfast, and Phil did present relatively well. But his grandiose talk and his slogans do at times make him appear a bit dishonest.

    Fact is, light rail has been on the agenda for a while now, by AT even, I think, and Phil Goff picked that idea up some months ago, if not earlier, as he believes light rail is part of the public transport solution for Auckland.

    But Dominion Rd can only be one line of many that are needed. And it is time to be absolutely clear to Aucklanders, who still cling to their mostly fossil fuel driven individual cars. Individual vehicle travel is going to come to a crossroads soon, people will have to decide to use public transport for travel, for more areas, and cars will need to become a bit of a privilege again, not the norm.

    Those that think we will replace all cars with electric vehicles are dreaming, as there will be a substantial increase in demand for electricity if that is to happen, which will not be met with the available supply, even with solar and wind.

    Paul Henry is a fossil brained human, who is a climate change denier, who openly ridicules science and the future challenges, and admits himself, he would rather be allowed to carry on wasting and polluting, as that is what he has been wired to do.

    People like him need to be told straight into their face, you are yesterday’s man, Paul, you are yesterday’s fossil man, time to pack up and move on.

    I still think we also need more proper traditional rail links across parts of Auckland, including to the Airport. Channeling airport communters through Dominion Rd cannot be the best solution for servicing that important part of the city.

  8. Apples with Apples Martyn.
    How do you think the same interview with Key would have gone?
    This is about Henry’s agenda, nothing more, nothing less.
    Henry offers one side of the political spectrum only and anyone with a different opinion only needs to look at the Canvas interview. Henry is Trump’s equivalent.

  9. Spot on @ bert – if any other party other than National hope to get a ‘look in’ on NZ M$M – they better think again. Why? Because National has created the environment to make it so.
    Paul Henry is nothing but John Key’s personal advertiser.

    Waatea 5th estate – PLEASE COME BACK!

    • There are countries in Europe where they still have political discussions live on air on public broadcasting television, believe it or not. We have NO such think here, we have minimalist kind of “current affairs” programs and what they consider such (and is not).

      There is no serious investigative journalism freely available via MSM, even little on the web in NZ Inc, so no wonder there is endless political illiteracy, ignorance and indifference.

      Consumerism and shopping, heavily encouraged, almost dictated, by commercial advertising everywhere, that is what dominates, and what people have ample time for, it seems.

      We are living in a mental and moral wasteland, and Paul Henry gets away with selling his AMP promoted show with rude jokes, comments and endless bias, at times insults.

      RIP NZ Aotearoa with a conscience, as it once had, I reckon.

  10. Entirely agree with you Martyn. Although Twyfords intentions are good, he tends to “muff” his punch line(s) in the heat of the camera/studio-lights?
    Pushed just a little he then starts to get off message and fuck up. The audience are then left feeling, WTF? was that?
    Maybe its an affliction born from being a keyboard warrior where you have as much time as you want to think and construct your argument, whereas, 30 seconds in a soundbite interview or in-front of a wanka journo who is highly skilled …. bringing a knife to a gun fight only works if you stick it in him before he can shoot you, the messenger!

  11. Another who has boycotted Paul Henry was David Icke when he walked out on an interview with this little small minded ; biased ; ego maniac.

    Phil, a man with intellect and integrity is rarely wrong – Paul Henry is often wrong and very limited in the intellect and integrity arenas.

    Conspiracy Theorist = nothing more than a derogatory title intentionally used to dismiss a critical thinker and truthseeker.

    When ? Martyn, are you going to give Labour / Greens a break and stop with all your constant ( somewhat petty ) bashing.

  12. Interesting Martyn, why you choose to delete and not allow a comment through. I submitted a comment here that opposed your views and surprise, surprise, you deleted it.

    You also chose not to include a comment submitted earlier today about Gareth Morgan and another about the Labour / Green alliance. Very interesting indeed. Funny when I agree with you and support you, all those comments get through like grease lightening.

    Why not consider putting up the two other comments I submitted earlier today and if not – WHY NOT ? ? ! ! ! ? ? ? ! ! !

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